Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Muslim lawyer sues over Inter Milan 'Crusaders' kit
Times Online ^ | December 11, 2007 | Richard Owen

Posted on 12/12/2007 12:23:32 AM PST by lizol

Muslim lawyer sues over Inter Milan 'Crusaders' kit

Richard Owen in Rome

A Turkish lawyer is taking legal action against Inter Milan, the Italian football team, for wearing a strip with “Crusader-style” red crosses that he alleges is ”offensive to Muslim sensibilities”.

Baris Kaska, a lawyer in Izmir who specialises in European law, said that he had lodged a complaint in a local court against Inter Milan, which last month played the Istanbul team Fenerbahce in a Champions League match at the San Siro stadium in Milan. The Inter players wore a new strip - a white shirt with a giant red cross on it - marking the club's centenary.

Mr Kaska said he was not only seeking damages but was also appealing to Uefa to annul the match, which Inter won 3-0. “That cross only brings one thing to mind - the symbol of the Templar Knights,” he said. “It made me think immediately of the bloody days of the past. While I was watching the game I felt profound grief in my soul.” Mr Kaska told the Spanish newspaper La Vanguardia that the cross symbolised “Western racist superiority over Islam”.

He said that Inter had “manifested in the most explicit manner the superiority of one religion over another”. He said the court had contacted both Uefa and Fifa to convey his demand that Inter should be “heavily fined for displaying an offensive symbol”. “How could Uefa allow this?“demanded the Turkish paper Radikal.

Inter Milan officials said that they were “astounded”. They said that in the first match between the two teams in September at Istanbul - which Fenerbahce won 1-0 - Inter had deliberately refrained from wearing the strip with the red cross but had felt entitled to use it on its home ground.

Inter officials also pointed out that a red cross on a white background is the symbol of the city of Milan. Many Italian football clubs incorporated the cross on their shirts, including Inter, founded in Milan in 1908. “The red cross has become an international political football,” Corriere della Sera commented.

Uefa's mission is to “promote the principles of unity and solidarity” in Europe through football, “without discrimination on grounds of gender, religion or race.” However, Inter officials said Uefa had approved the new Inter strip at the start of the season, and the Turkish club had also accepted it before last month’s game.

La Repubblica said it was unclear whether Mr Kaska was “more wounded by the supposed offence or by the goals Inter scored”. Fenerbahce, one of Turkey’s top teams and the main rival in Istanbul of Galatasaray, was also founded 100 years ago. Its players wear a yellow-blue strip and are known as "The Yellow Canaries”.

The row comes at a sensitive moment in Turkey's ambitions to join the European Union. This week France won a symbolic victory at a meeting of EU Foreign Ministers when it prevented the EU using the word “accession” or “membership” in connection with Turkey, which is a secular state but has a majority Muslim population and a government led by Islamist politicians.

Ankara opened negotiations for EU membership two years ago, but Nicolas Sarkozy, the French President, has repeatedly said that Turkey has no place in Europe and should be offered instead a “privileged partnership”.

David Miliband, the Foreign Secretary, said: “We think it’s important that the European Union fulfil its responsibilities towards Turkey, but also that Turkey continues the reform process that is an important part of its passage to the European Union."

The EU statement welcomed the strengthening of democracy in Turkey but said “significant further efforts are needed in other areas such as judicial reform, the fight against corruption, minority rights and strengthening of cultural rights, women’s rights, children’s rights, trade union rights and civilian control of the military”.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: eurabia; europe; football; inter; intermilan; islam; italy; milan; muslim; soccer; turkey

Inter Milan players sporting the controversial kit in a match against Fiorentina earlier this month




1 posted on 12/12/2007 12:23:33 AM PST by lizol
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: lizol
Thank God our ancestors left that place and came here to found this great nation! We must NOT become like Europe, where a disgruntled troublemaker can sue in such a frivolous manner. We are already too far down the same path. We must reverse course as soon as we can.
2 posted on 12/12/2007 12:27:11 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: knighthawk; HHKrepublican_2

Ping


3 posted on 12/12/2007 12:28:48 AM PST by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lizol

I see the world of Islam can add some shysterism to stonings, homocide bombings and all the rest.


4 posted on 12/12/2007 12:29:25 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lizol

I love it. In euro football, Arsenal is my team but I’ve seen the IM’s unis before and didn’t offend me 1 bit. Leave it to the muslims to be offended when they see ANY cross.


5 posted on 12/12/2007 12:30:37 AM PST by max americana
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lizol
Islam itself offends the sensibilities of billions of people worldwide who do not believe in it.
6 posted on 12/12/2007 1:04:41 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lizol

How dare these people have a rich cultural history and wear it with pride!


7 posted on 12/12/2007 1:11:16 AM PST by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
“We must NOT become like Europe, where a disgruntled troublemaker can sue in such a frivolous manner.”

- In 2003, the number of lawyers in the US surpassed 1 million.

The lawyers of the 27 EU countries and 10 other European nations are represented by an organization called The Council of Bars and Law Societies of Europe (CCBE). Russia does not participate in this cooperation, but still the total population of the countries this organization draws its members from is well over 600 million, more than twice the population of the US.

According to CCBE, there are around 700 000 lawyers, all in all, in these 37 European countries.

If Europe truly is a place where anyone can sue anyone else in a ‘frivolous manner’, how come the US needs more lawyers than we Europeans do?

Are our lawyers more productive?

8 posted on 12/12/2007 1:19:12 AM PST by WesternCulture
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: WesternCulture
Somebody has to write and interpret those "Earmarks" of Congress.

:-\

9 posted on 12/12/2007 1:35:19 AM PST by Does so (...against all enemies, DOMESTIC and foreign...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: lizol
A Turkish lawyer is taking legal action against Inter Milan, the Italian football team, for wearing a strip with “Crusader-style” red crosses that he alleges is ”offensive to Muslim sensibilities”.

It's a pity his feelings are hurt. I think the “Crusader-style” red cross are just awesome.

They could send a mild message by wearing the red crosses and each of them stepping on a copy of the injunction. : )

10 posted on 12/12/2007 1:38:27 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WesternCulture
Are our lawyers more productive?

I sure hope so... : )

11 posted on 12/12/2007 1:39:04 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Muslims and their lawyers are taking pages from the ACLU play book... Muslims = perpetually offended folks... frivolous lawsuit.
12 posted on 12/12/2007 1:41:25 AM PST by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: WesternCulture
If Europe truly is a place where anyone can sue anyone else in a ‘frivolous manner’, how come the US needs more lawyers than we Europeans do?

The stats are misleading. Although many retain their licenses, the majority of U.S. lawyers quit practicing within five years of graduating from law school. For example, the majority of all law students today are women. Mommy track will hit within a few years of graduating from law school...most will never return to practicing law full-time. For males, many will take jobs in a corporate environment or start up their own businesses. They'll keep their licenses but really aren't engaged in the practice of law.

13 posted on 12/12/2007 1:44:22 AM PST by peyton randolph (tag line taking a siesta)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: lizol

”offensive to Muslim sensibilities”

I have tried and tried and I can’t make myself care


14 posted on 12/12/2007 1:56:27 AM PST by sure_fine (• " not one to over kill the thought process " •)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SevenofNine

15 posted on 12/12/2007 1:57:40 AM PST by monkapotamus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lizol


The Turkey Football Club - - how's that for irony?

16 posted on 12/12/2007 1:59:27 AM PST by Beckwith (<the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Caipirabob
Crusader bumper sticker
17 posted on 12/12/2007 2:04:35 AM PST by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: lizol
Well then I'M offended by this club's crest...

Saved by a Soccer emblem based on the Third Crusade

A Briton escaped being killed by Muslim fanatics — because they thought his Portsmouth Football Club sticker was an Islamic emblem. Terrified Tony Restall, 56, was ambushed by Arab fundamentalists in strife-torn Yemen. The bandits, armed with AK-47 rifles, dragged him and his armed guard out of their car and threatened to either execute or take them hostage. Then they spotted Pompey fan Tony’s club sticker in a window and thought the moon and star symbols meant he was a practising Muslim.... “But they spotted my Portsmouth FC sticker and the mood changed. They thought I was Muslim as the star and moon are Muslim symbols. “I was able to convince them that, although I was Western, I was helping Muslims in the area.”.... Portsmouth FC based their badge on the city’s 900-year-old coat of arms. The crest used the symbol of King Richard’s chancellor William de Longchamp, who adopted a crescent moon and star in honour of the Third Crusade.

snicker.../sarcasm

18 posted on 12/12/2007 2:04:46 AM PST by philman_36
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Beckwith

Check out #18! LOL


19 posted on 12/12/2007 2:05:42 AM PST by philman_36
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: peyton randolph
“For example, the majority of all law students today are women. Mommy track will hit within a few years of graduating from law school”

- In my country, Sweden, the situation is pretty much the same. Generally speaking, most of the students at Swedish universities are female, while most of the graduates are male. 90% of all Swedish professors are men.

I don’t know exactly what the situation’s like in Europe in general, although I suspect the situation is very similar to the one here in Sweden.

“For males, many will take jobs in a corporate environment or start up their own businesses. They’ll keep their licenses but really aren’t engaged in the practice of law.”

- Perhaps this phenomena is more common in the US than over here in Europe, but a lot of our lawyers end up as politicians, business owners and such things too.

However, my personal impression is that Europe suffers from a larger overabundance of sheer bureaucrats than the US does, while the US has a larger percentage of its workforce tied up in unnecessary lawsuits compared to Europe.

While a certain amount of lawyers and bureaucrats are needed in all advanced societies, what both the US and Europe really need more of is competent inventors, entrepreneurs, engineers and scientists.

20 posted on 12/12/2007 2:13:45 AM PST by WesternCulture
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Beckwith
That is actually the Turkish Football Federation's flag, not the Turkey Football Club's.


Besiktas Istanbul
, though, is a different story...

21 posted on 12/12/2007 2:15:26 AM PST by philman_36
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: max americana

“Leave it to the muslims to be offended when they see ANY cross.”

Hell, moslems are offended by telephone poles, by “plus” signs, by the letter “t”, and the button line on a shirt where it meets the belt.


22 posted on 12/12/2007 3:17:57 AM PST by ought-six ("Give me liberty, or give me death!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: lizol

Filthy disgusting hypocrites. They are offended by a symbol on a shirt, by a cartoon, by true words spoken by the Pope, by a name given to a teddy bear.
And I’m offended by the murder of Daniel Pearl, carried on with religious chants and videotaping, by the imprisonment and murder of school children in Beslan, by the murder of 3000 innocents in September 2001.


23 posted on 12/12/2007 3:39:54 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (get the whole damned lot of them out of this country)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: peyton randolph
For males, many will take jobs in a corporate environment or start up their own businesses. They'll keep their licenses but really aren't engaged in the practice of law.

Or, as many point out, they only went to Law School so they could be the larval form of a politician.

24 posted on 12/12/2007 4:18:43 AM PST by Gorzaloon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: ought-six

“Leave it to the muslims to be offended when they see ANY cross.”

Just immagine what they would do if you waved cloves of garlic at them. Can muslims see themselves in a mirror?


25 posted on 12/12/2007 5:10:48 AM PST by deathrace2000 ("I regret that I have but one life to give for my country", Nathan Hale before execution.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: WesternCulture
It's easier to sue in the US, plus many (probably the majority) lawyers do something else besides sue folks in court.

In Europe there are "other" professions doing what lawyers do here ~ for example, there are these guys who carry around machineguns ~ Italy uses them instead of Certified Public Accountants to help people decide what taxes to pay (and that also leaves one lawyer unemployed for each CPO saved, proving that a machinegun is definitely worth two professional thieves every single time).

26 posted on 12/12/2007 5:58:31 AM PST by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Caipirabob; lizol

I’d like to buy one in support of the team!


27 posted on 12/12/2007 6:08:51 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: lizol
“It made me think immediately of the bloody days of the past. While I was watching the game I felt profound grief in my soul.” Mr Kaska told...

Daniel Pearl was unavailable for comment.

28 posted on 12/12/2007 6:09:57 AM PST by Bob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lizol
Found it........

Buy one of these jerseys!


29 posted on 12/12/2007 6:11:26 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lizol
I am offended too every time I see the Muslim symbols of the sword and crescent moon. Reminds me of that bloody time in history when these animals spread out over the world forcing people to change their religions with the sword, rape and destruction of nations. The Knights Templer must have been pretty ferocious if these people still hate and fear them after a thousand years.
30 posted on 12/12/2007 6:13:09 AM PST by Americanexpat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lizol
Muslim sensibilities

Jumbo shrimp. Pardon my Jane Austen, but one must have sense to have sensibilities.

31 posted on 12/12/2007 6:13:16 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lizol
So it may not be a good idea for me to wear my Holy Cross Crusaders hat if I ever visit Constantinople.

OOOPS, I meant Istanbul.

32 posted on 12/12/2007 6:14:27 AM PST by AU72
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unfortunately, we have travelled far down that same path. Look at the teams that have changed their names from (insert un PC name here)to something innocuous, like Stanford did.


33 posted on 12/12/2007 6:14:30 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: lizol

I want one!


34 posted on 12/12/2007 6:14:53 AM PST by gridlock (Recycling is the new Religion.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gridlock

Hey, Mrs. Gridlock! Christmas is coming!!!


35 posted on 12/12/2007 6:15:15 AM PST by gridlock (Recycling is the new Religion.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: WesternCulture
Are our lawyers more productive?

Well, I am a billing machine ;-) (I walk with angels, I defend businesses from guys like Edwards)

As for the Templar cross worn by the guys plaing kickball, maybe it's me, but I think we are way overdue for another Crusade. I hope it does offend them.

36 posted on 12/12/2007 6:21:39 AM PST by MattinNJ (I'm pulling for Fred Thompson and Duncan Hunter-...but I'd vote for Rudy against Hillary)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: gridlock

http://cgi.ebay.com/NIKE-07-08-INTER-MILAN-AWAY-SOCCER-JERSEY-XL-SIZE_W0QQitemZ220180287879QQihZ012QQcategoryZ137007QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


37 posted on 12/12/2007 6:31:56 AM PST by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: lizol

Three words: “SUCK IT UP”


38 posted on 12/12/2007 8:19:23 AM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LiteKeeper

BUMP!


39 posted on 12/12/2007 8:49:57 AM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: ought-six

Muslims don’t use the plus ( + ) sign because it resembles a cross — they’re crazier than liberals.


40 posted on 12/12/2007 12:31:08 PM PST by Beckwith (<the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: monkapotamus

Nice save

I got question how come my LA Soccer team sign David Beckham but didn’t sign up Islamic rage boy

I think LA Galaxy got screw LOL!


41 posted on 12/12/2007 12:50:31 PM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: lizol

TROP laswyer in question ought to raise his eyes rather thasn his posterior, Heavenward..


42 posted on 12/13/2007 12:53:10 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Turkey Investigates Alleged Ties Between Police, Alleged Killers of Christians
FOXNews.com | Saturday, December 08, 2007 | AP
Posted on 12/09/2007 9:55:52 AM EST by do the dhue
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1936955/posts


43 posted on 12/17/2007 9:49:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, December 10, 2007____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson