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Posted on 12/12/2007 9:44:09 AM PST by traviskicks
Republican presidential candidate and Texas Congressman, Dr. Ron Paul is running a new radio ad promoting income tax freedom. The ad is starting to run in New Hampshire, Iowa, South Carolina and Nevada.
The ad’s narrator says “If we reduced federal spending to the levels of just a decade ago we could get rid of the income tax and replace it with nothing. There is only one candidate for president, Ron Paul who is committed to ending the income tax.”
The ad can be listened to below:
How would a Paul Administration then pay for Border Security? The FBI? The US Military? Social Security? Medicare?
I think he meant personal income tax, but not corporate taxes. Nothing else makes sense.
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Corporate taxes and tariffs would continue to fund the federal government.
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btw, have you seen this:
http://ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=7479052
ANCHORAGE, Alaska — In a poll conducted Monday, Dec. 10, Channel 2 News asked which GOP presidential candidate Alaskan Republicans plan to support in the Super Tuesday caucus.
A slim majority of respondents support Ron Paul, a Texas congressman known for wanting to abolish the IRS and opposing the Iraq War.
Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who’s surging in national polls as well as Iowa caucus polls, came in a close second.
Which Republican presidential candidate will you support in Alaska’s caucus?
Rudy Giuliani — 14%
Mike Huckabee — 22%
John McCain — 9%
Ron Paul — 29%
Mitt Romney — 9%
Fred Thompson — 12%
Other — 6%
All polls conducted by Channel 2 News and KTUU.com are unscientific.
I remember 1997, back when we had no taxes, like it was only yesterday.
Exactly how would we reduce military spending to that level and stay in Iraq?
Bush isn't enforcing the border now, so any positive change there would be a good one. Including Dr. Paul's plan to bring the National Guard back home and station them to patrol the border.
National guard, guarding the Nation instead of being used over-seas... Who'da thunk it?
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/debt-and-taxes/
Debt and Taxes
Working Americans like lower taxes. So do I. Lower taxes benefit all of us, creating jobs and allowing us to make more decisions for ourselves about our lives.
Whether a tax cut reduces a single mother’s payroll taxes by $40 a month or allows a business owner to save thousands in capital gains taxes and hire more employees, that tax cut is a good thing. Lower taxes allow more spending, saving, and investing which helps the economy — that means all of us.
Real conservatives have always supported low taxes and low spending.
But today, too many politicians and lobbyists are spending America into ruin. We are nine trillion dollars in debt as a nation. Our mounting government debt endangers the financial future of our children and grandchildren. If we don’t cut spending now, higher taxes and economic disaster will be in their future — and yours.
In addition, the Federal Reserve, our central bank, fosters runaway debt by increasing the money supply — making each dollar in your pocket worth less. The Fed is a private bank run by unelected officials who are not required to be open or accountable to “we the people.”
Worse, our economy and our very independence as a nation is increasingly in the hands of foreign governments such as China and Saudi Arabia, because their central banks also finance our runaway spending.
We cannot continue to allow private banks, wasteful agencies, lobbyists, corporations on welfare, and governments collecting foreign aid to dictate the size of our ballooning budget. We need a new method to prioritize our spending. It’s called the Constitution of the United States.
The libertarian desire to legalize and tax pot and prostitution.
Or declare them Unconstitutional and shut them down.
The man is all sound bytes with no plans...Sounds like a democrat.
Tax Relief and Tax Cuts
An over-taxing government is the biggest contributor to creating poverty. By continuing to inhibit the economic growth and potential of our citizens, we prevent the investment capability to create jobs, increase income and provide a stable financial environment. I believe all citizens are deserving of tax relief and tax-cutting policies benefit the American economy as a whole.
I do not support efforts to identify segments of our society that are more deserving of a tax cut over another and I believe political stereotyping in this area hinders the goal of providing efficient tax relief. It is important to create a federal tax policy that is both fair to American taxpayers while, at the same time, ensuring that our nation meets its financial obligations.
Tax reform efforts should achieve the dual goals of improving the tax code system and allow taxpayers to keep more of their money to support their families, save for their futures, and protect their businesses and assets. It is for this reason that I have supported several tax relief packages passed in Congress that have reduced taxes and helped spur the economy by allowing hard working American taxpayers to keep more of the money they earn to invest in their futures.
Finally, my basic philosophy is to teach and train and inspire rather than simply give government “hand outs.”
Marriage Penalty Tax
The current tax code unfairly imposes a penalty on married couples and I believe legislative action is needed immediately. In 2001, Congress passed the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act (EGTRRA) to, among other things, provide marriage tax penalty relief to America’s working married couples. These changes are phased in over several years while, at the same time, all of the changes in EGTRRA will expire after 2010. Taking into consideration that the current tax code has a sunset on the marriage penalty solution, it is imperative that Congress pass legislation to make this provision permanent. It is not only equitable, but prevents sending a message that married couples should be treated differently than singles.
Alternative Minimum Tax
I firmly support reform of the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) and believe it is the most pressing individual income tax issue facing Americans today. This tax regulation was created in 1969 in an effort to close certain loopholes and ensure that a small number of extremely high-income taxpayers paid a fair share of the federal income tax. However, the lack of indexation of the AMT, coupled with the recent reductions in regular income taxes, has greatly expanded the potential impact of this tax. Absent congressional action, the AMT will "take back" most of the tax relief granted through income tax reform.
As it is currently applied, the AMT represses economic growth and punishes those who are working hard to provide for their families. Temporary increases in the AMT exemption amounts enacted as part of the President Bush's 2002 tax-reduction package are scheduled to expire at the end of 2006. If this occurs, the number of taxpayers subject to the AMT will jump dramatically from 3 million in 2004 to 21 million in 2006 and over 41 million in 2013. Families with large numbers of children will be especially hard hit. I support Congress passing legislation making increases in the AMT exemption amounts permanent.
Antiquated Taxes
I believe our current tax code is full of antiquated policies that were installed for a specific reason and for a specific time, but never removed. For example, the Federal Telephone Excise Tax was first enacted in 1898 to help pay for the Spanish-American War when telephones were considered a "luxury." While this tax was initially applied to long-distance service, it was later extended to general phone service in 1941 and currently applies to all telecommunication services, which include standard and wireless telephone services, as well as computer Internet connections. This tax unfairly targets Americans that rely on telephone service as a primary means of communication. For those on fixed incomes, including our nation's elderly and disabled, it is often difficult to avoid excessive telecommunication charges, especially in today's information age.
These types of taxes are indicative of a much larger problem; the current tax code is unnecessarily confusing and complicated, causing taxpayers to spend more than six billion hours every year on paperwork and other bureaucratic requirements. On average, $200 billion a year goes uncollected in federal taxes and taxpayers pay in excess of $5 billion a year to identify and prosecute tax evaders. Clearly, major tax reform is necessary. I have consistently supported efforts to reform the tax code, making it simpler, fairer, and more growth oriented. By replacing our current convoluted and fraud-ridden system with more simplified tax requirements, I believe we will be able to meet the dual goals of providing core government services and returning much needed income back to our families.
And reduce to number of Federal, State and local government employees by *millions*...The American working middle class is being choked off by these ever growing governments. Do this soon, or eventually it will just be too late to stop this all encompassing, all controllinig government mega-monster.
We wouldn't. Paul has flatly stated that. Nor would we stay in Europe, anywhere in the Middle-East, South-East Asia, wherever.
Our troops would be home, we wouldn't need a border fence or border security because our commitment to disavow world dominance would convince our enemies of our peaceful intentions.
Don't you understand? It's peace in our time.
Unfortunately, it also gives the forces of ever bigger government a stick to whack on issues Dr. Paul advocates that are perfectly reasonable and Constitutional and that RINO's can't stand.
Strikes me you could replace Ron Paul with nothing-and be well ahead of the game.
It’s a realistic as John Edward’s promise to make cripples walk, if he is president.
Or declare them Unconstitutional and shut them down.
The man is all sound bytes with no plans...Sounds like a democrat.
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HOW WOULD HE PAY FOR THOSE SUBS TO DEFEND US!
Oh, selling hashish brownies at a bake sale...
I forgot, sorry I lost my head there...
Paul supporters really need to take some basic Civics courses. They all seem convinced that the President is some sort of god who simply can issue a decree and grant their every emotion based political whimsy.
He cannot.
YOU pay the corporate taxes NOT the corporations. They pass it along to the consumer in the price.
I’m a Hunter-bot moron. Paul is right on a lot of issues. Stop cheerleading for bigger government...
Don't you understand? It's peace in our time.
I do hope you're implementing sarcasm....
Hunter is right about defense, borders, guns and size of government.
Paul is wrong about defense, right about guns and size of government, and I don’t trust him on borders.
I’d rather have someone who’s right on all the important issues. Paul is clearly unqualified on balance.
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Ya mean the same corporations and businesses that have almost collectivly hired and employed upwards of 20 million illegal aliens? While at the same time attempting to convince everyone that they had no idea that their entire Spanish speaking workforce is here illegally.
Uh huh. Sure.
That last line should have told you. Of course I was. I just saw no reason to use the /s tag.
The man's a fool being used by fools. 'Nuff said.
O.M.G.!!! There is someone else in the world that understands that simple, but far beyond human reasoning, concept? </sarcasm>
A decade ago, we were under Clinton, where military spending had been slashed dramatically and our armed forces severely handicapped. Is that what we want? Not me. . .not in the era we are currently living in.
By the way, I don't accept Paul's claim that if we had the federal budget we had a decade ago, we could do away with the income tax altogether. How in the heck would anything be funded with no revenue coming in?
But when is Hunter going to get some airtime??
So it is okay to 'steal' money from Corporations but not individuals. Got it.
Ronnie is a loon.
ROFL!
I had forgotten. Sorry.
I don’t agree with Paul’s stand on Iraq, but I have to say, this is a smart issue to hammer.
Nothing funny about that at all. Hey! Once Paul does all that, then legalizes drugs, who'd in their right mind would want to attack a bunch of pot-heads?
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Oooooooooooooo. Four subs you say?
Hopefully working on rational proposals rather than soundbites. I'll post one of my last answers below, feel free to tell me how rabblerouser Paul runs the government.
BTW, shouldn't he tell retirees directly that he's cutting Social Security and Medicare back to 2000 levels, while collecting taxes at 2007 rates.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1902573/posts?page=167#167
And yammering about "abolishing the income tax" isn't a proposal without details about how the revenue will be replaced, and what cuts will be made.
I'll play though, Wikipedia is good enough for this exercise.
By eliminating the income tax without a replacement, you've just dropped federal revenues from $2.2 trillion to just over $1 trillion. You're going to continue Social Security and Medicare, you've got $122 billion left to run the government.
Scrapping SS and Medicare, you save $890 billion in expenses, but lose $818 billion in tax revenue. If Paul prefers that approach, he should be honest about throwing grandma off the train, he's got about $195 billion to run the government.
So tell me, how is President Paul going to run the government on $122 to $195 billion?
What goes, what does he keep.
BTW, I'm assuming we default on our debt, if Ron pays the interest, he's got nothing left to run the government.
Paul is a curmudgeon good for sound bites and nothing more. The classic empty suit.
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Total Receipts
Estimated receipts for fiscal year 2006 are $2.2 trillion. This expected income is broken down by the following sources:
The President's budget for 2006 totals $2.6 trillion. This budget request is broken down by the following expenditures:
There are no such thing as corporate txas. All taxes are paid by people, either through direct taxation, such as our W-2 taxes, increased prices due to sales taxes or increased retail price tax pass-thrus such as so-called corporate taxes.
Nah! Not them. They’d be too interested in getting their pot & stuff accepted by the FDA.
Since his soundbite, can't call this absurdity a position, is to eliminate the IRS, clearly the corporate income tax goes as well.
FDA is not in the Constitution.
Paul would disband it.
Because, what, we didn't have an IRS and pay taxes in 2000? RP is loonie.
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