Skip to comments.Former Iran president: U.S. intelligence report was leaked by Democrats or independent groups
Posted on 12/12/2007 1:50:09 PM PST by knighthawk
Chairman of the Experts Assembly Ayatollah Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani said on Wednesday that the "important" report issued by 16 US intelligence agencies is neither against Tehran nor benefits Washington. The report released on December 3 by the US National Intelligence Estimate (NIE), said, they did not "assume that Iran intends to acquire nuclear weapons."
Addressing the 4th congress of Moderation and Development, he commented on reasons for issuing the report, stressing: "My primary speculation is that the report has been issued either by the Democrats or independent groups. The report might have been issued by experts since their investigation has indicated that Iran has not been pursuing nuclear weapons in these years."
"The US president had already been informed of the report and as the Israeli prime minister announced, the report was presented to him during the Annapolis conference by President Bush," Rafsanjani added, according to IRNA.
They knew that if the White House opposed the report, they would face another defeat at international arena, he said, adding that they knew that they had to respond to the public opinion therefore the situation was in a way that the report had to be published.
Referring to the recent report of Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) Mohamed ElBaradei, he said, "The two reports (NIE and IAEA) changed the situation in a way that the White House was faced with problems in issuing further sanctions against Iran and other issues such as military invasion against the country," Rafsanjani, who is the former Iranian president reiterated.
Despite such reports, the US and its allies have intensified their anti-Iran efforts to show their hatred towards the Iranian nation, he said commenting on recent anti-Iran moves by Washington and certain European states.
Leave it to the Democrats to undermine US interests. Sometimes you have to wonder if Democrats live in America.
Well, heck...you don’t have to be Einstein to figure that one out.
Lotsa blood on their hands if Mahamood keeps his promise.
I’m going to swim against what I guess will be the tide in this post and say I’d sooner trust Democrats than some former president of Iran. If politics really should stop at the water’s edge, then we at least have to give our countrymen the benefit of the doubt before we believe an avowed enemy of our nation. I’m not saying there’s no way Democrats didn’t leak this thing, just that I’m not ready to jump onto this bandwagon being driven by a guy named Ayatollah Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, who himself said it was just his “speculation”. I’ll wait for some evidence.
One would think that the extreme efforts to undermine the war by the Democraps should be enough evidence Rafsanjani is close if not right on with his remarks.
You are absolutley right! See my post #11
Thank you for that information. Why so many people are ready to vilify our political opponents before our actual enemies I’ll never understand.
See my post #11
Chomsky is a notorious liar and manipulator of facts by way of linguistics and references. I find it curious that Chomsky and the NIE have the same conclusion. I would hate to think that the NIE was using some Chomsky footnote as the bases for their intelligence. He has a way of citing himself as authority.
I think the reason that the Bush Admin declassified the entire report was to put a stop to any second guessing and spinning.
The Demonrats have shown themselves to be AVOWED ENEMIES OF OUR NATION time after time after time. So they get no "benefit of the doubt". Good God man, how many times does someone have to stab you in the back before you realize they are not your friend...
The NIE reports are Bush Admin requested reports that came into existence after 9/11.
OVERVIEW: HISTORY OF INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATES
Or perhaps, to make the "spinning and second guessing" of the NIE perfectly obvious!!!
Look for the home page for choices if you decide to go there.
Excellent point. I hadn’t thought of it that way. Thank you.
Thanks for the link. I need to correct what I said earlier it seems. The NIE reports of discussion have been requested by President Bush but the NIE reports have been around since before President Bush. It’s basically Bush’s report.
Did I get it right?
Agreed! You stated it much better than I did.
Gadzooks, mngran! Have you heard what... these Democrats you call "our Countrymen" have been saying for the past five or six years?
I stopped giving the Liberal Democrats... the benefit of the doubt when they took the North's side in the Vietnam War. You do recall that one, don't you?
Again, what planet have you been on for the past decade or three? The Liberal Democrats have sided with just about every enemy the United States has since World War Two ended.
Tell me, just who do you and avacado consider our enemies? You two certainly have a strange set of values for posting on a basically Conservative Republican website that considers 'Merde' French for Democrat.
Dude, calm down! All I did was post a fact the the NIE report was declassified by the Bush Admin and not leaked as that Iranian kook was suggesting. You did read the article, right?
I was not trying to prove you wrong, which I didn't. I was just curious so searched NIC.
Spent some time at the site today and there is even an estimate up to 2015. Funny thing is some one wrote a fake letter from binLaden to a fake grandchild in 2015.
At least a thousand people worked on this 2015 estimate over several years. Can you imagine the cost of such a project?
Glad you did the checking.
An NIE Report for 2015? You have the link for that? It should be a fun/humorous read.
Silly of me, but I kinda go nuts when I see someone defending the Liberal Democrats who have not done any harm to our enemies at all while their actions have helped kill our men and women in uniform since Vietnam and they have kept it up right in to Iraq.
To me, 'Merde' is not near enough French for what I think about those traitors!
An NIE Report for 2015?
President Bush probably did ask for the NIE Report. In time of war it could help, the thing now is, State, CIA and democrats hate Bush and want him to lose regardless the issue. Even the security of our country. JMHO
No problem. And yes I agree 100% with you that the Democrats are treasonous traitors to this country. It’s more than obvious at this point.
Gracious, I am amazed once again that people (that means you, Bender2) get so tied up in knots when I simply say I’ll give my fellow countrymen (i.e., Democrats, some of whom are my neighbors and co-workers) the benefit of the doubt before I believe the word of some radical Islamic fundamentalist from Iran. But if you’d rather automatically take the side of the Islamofacists before looking for evidence, go right ahead. Ever stopped to think that sowing division and distrust among Americans is part of the Islamists plan to hurt us?
Ahmadinejad is harmless bump
Yea, i find it curious also that Chomsky an overated intellectual that plays fast and loose with facts seems to have received the same information.
Thanks for the ping.
Then I guess we are facing a mighty brilliant Islamic brain-trust as they must have stared sewing this distrust of the Liberal Democrats' traitorous activities back in 1968 when they and the new media said we lost the Tet Offensive.
Listening to you, perhaps we should just give up now and have our wives, daughters and granddaughters fitted for Berkers!
And BTW as to (i.e., Democrats, some of whom are my neighbors and co-workers) if they want to vote for the Democrats, I will still tell them they are voting for traitors intent on destroying what is left of the America I was born into and have lived for the past 60 years. I don't need any foreign source to tell me that, the Liberal Democrats have proven that over and over again in the past 40 years.
I have immediate family that are still Yellow Dog Democrats and I have stopped talking to them. I find it is a waste of breath and effort to try and talk any sense to them as I figure the same applies to you, old sport.
If you are dead set on giving all Democrats 'the benefit of the doubt' after all the years of mounting evidence of their traitorous ways, then you might as run up the white flag and start voting with them. They already have you by the mental shorthairs.
Information on Rafsanjani from a Newsmax article:
Newsmax sources in Tehran believe that Ahmadinejad has come out on top of a recent power struggle with his chief rival, former President Ali Akbar Hashemi-Rafsanjani, who has portrayed himself as a pragmatist willing to come to an accommodation with the West.
But other sources believe that Rafsanjani continues to play a major role in checking Ahmadinejads power, and could succeed in toppling him before his presidential term expires in the spring of 2009.
On Wednesday, Rafsanjani said that he believed the NIE had been issued either by the Democrats or independent groups, since it concluded that Iran did not intend to acquire nuclear weapons.
One clear sign of the behind-the-scenes jockeying for power was the forced resignation last week of a Rafsanjani protégé, Gen. Mohammad Baqer Zolqadr, from his position as deputy interior minister in charge of intelligence affairs.
Gen. Zolqadr, a former deputy commander of the Revolutionary Guards, rallied to the Rafsanjani camp along with his former boss, Gen. Mohsen Rezai.
He is best known for his role in providing training and support to al-Qaida during the 1990s, when Osama bin Laden was still based in the Sudan, as I reported in my 2005 book, Countdown to Crisis: the Coming Nuclear Showdown with Iran.
Adding to the confusion were rumors of a foiled assassination plot against Rafsanjani last week, when his convoy was attacked by armed men who succeeding in wounding two bodyguards. Apparently forewarned, Rafsanjani was traveling separately in an unmarked car when the convoy was attacked.
Ahmadinejad was summoned to the residence of Supreme Leader ayatollah Khamenei on Thursday, Dec. 6, during the early morning hours, just as the Zolqadr controversy was brewing.
He cut short an official visit to Ilam province to make the meeting and was accompanied by body guards from the Ansar-e Mehdi, a special unit of the Revolutionary Guards Corps that is personally loyal to him.
The regime is nervous that the US and the Europeans have spies inside the nuclear program, said Sardar Haddad, an Iranian dissident living in the United States.
The shadowy kabuki dance would appear to be an effort to smoke out the positions and the vulnerabilities - of various Iranian leaders.
Haddad pointed to the arrest earlier this year of former nuclear negotiator Hossein Mousavian, whom Ahmadinejad accused in public of being an American spy.
The Mousavian business is serious. He has been attacked because he is close to Rafsanjani, Haddad told Newsmax.
According to one interpretation, each faction in Tehran is trying to blame the other for having leaked real information that wound up in the NIE. According to another, each side is trying to take credit for having passed off false information to the CIA.
Despite the spying charges, Moussavian was later released, a move seen in Tehran as a defeat for Ahmadinejad and his faction.
It is true that they have rolled up U.S. [intelligence] networks in Iran, said Haddad. But they have also found people who were just about to defect, and have given them bogus info to feed to the Americans and to other intelligence services, to give a wrong impression of Irans nuclear weapons program.
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