Posted on 12/12/2007 11:31:53 PM PST by Kevmo
Why?
As usual there was so much substance in Hunter’s debate, and on a lighter note, wasn’t it cool when the moderator said thank you to Hunter to let him know his time was up, and Hunter said, “and thank YOU!”
Substance and charisma, a winning combination!
Actually if you had posed the same question to me when Huck “won” I would have said the same thing...
***Then there are 3 ways to show that my analysis is correct. 1) Huckabee rose in the polls. 2) No one else questioned the analysis — your friends fell down on the job. 3) The market itself continues to speak, regardless of your hypotheticals.
Your analysis continues to sound like the average Fred follower: “I don’t like it because it doesn’t make my guy look good.” Well, Fred is supposed to be “all-in” for Iowa and this was the last debate before the caucuses. The fact that I’m posting this stuff with forcefulness is a sign that Fred didn’t pull it off. I continue to say that anyone who drops 30 points at Intrade has squandered it, and doesn’t deserve any more resources thrown his way. That’s throwing good money after bad. Time to let the guy who’s gotten this far on a shoestring budget to have the limelight. If you’re honest with yourself, you’ll see this is true.
We have had this conversation before and I was shocked that I could not shake you from having supported Feinstein over Huffington.
***Wrong again. And another lie. When you review the conversation you’ll see that I did not “support” Feinstein.
You’re the worst kind of troll — the lying kind. It’s all here in Free Republic for someone to double check.
I served under Nixon and Reagan, and I prefer them over the others, and I would prefer to serve under George W. instead of his father.
***Doesn’t pass the smell test. Nixon turned off an entire generation to republican politics.
How she could omit what most Americans consider the most important issue, illegal immigration, is beyond me.
***And yet, Hunter still won. He’s no one-note johnny. The man has depth and can think on his feet. He’s the right man at the right time, even though the MSM keeps trying their darndest to remove all of his advantages.
“Doesn’t pass the smell test. Nixon turned off an entire generation to republican politics”
What does that even mean?
“We have had this conversation before and I was shocked that I could not shake you from having supported Feinstein over Huffington.”
***Wrong again. And another lie. When you review the conversation you’ll see that I did not “support” Feinstein.
You’re the worst kind of troll — the lying kind. It’s all here in Free Republic for someone to double check.
Here is the exchange where I was unable to shake your idea that it was good that Huffington lost to Feinstein.
To: Kevmo
I remember the race when the media portrayed Huffington as trying to buy the Senate seat with his 75 million net worth, they didn’t mention that the Feinsteins were worth 50 million.
Huffington was no catch, but he would have been better than Feinstein.
2,596 posted on 11/28/2007 10:14:06 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
To: ansel12
I think Huffington was worth about 10X that amount.
Later on he admitted he was gay and wanted to change the republican party stance on that issue.
Even today you can see that the political driving force in that family was Arianna Huffington, not him.
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Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts
Posted on 11/15/2007 3:43:17 AM PST by Kevmo
2,610 posted on 11/28/2007 10:34:22 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
To: Kevmo
“I think Huffington was worth about 10X that amount.”
The 75 vs 50 was the figure in a story at the time.
Huffington would have been much more useful during those years than Feinstein, she gave us hell those next 6 years.
You kind of sound like you are glad that the democrat took that seat.
2,612 posted on 11/28/2007 10:39:18 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
To: ansel12
You kind of sound like you are glad that the democrat took that seat.
***No, I’m unhappy that Huffington took the congressional seat from a good republican, outspending him by the widest margin ever seen in a congressional race to that date. That is not what our founding fathers had in mind. And if you look at where Huffington is now, could you honestly claim that a republican would have had the senate seat? No. Just another guy with an R in front of his name, a RINO.
2,694 posted on 11/29/2007 9:37:52 AM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
To: Kevmo
Yes I wanted Huffington to defeat Feinstein for that senate seat, after the election we watched as time after time Feinstein’s vote shot us down.
The losses mounted up as we saw time after time when she took the lead in blocking us in votes that a rhino would have given us.
I don’t know where your political head is at, supporting the democrat over the republican for that senate seat is unfathomable.
How different the Gingrich revolution would have been with that senate seat.
2,700 posted on 11/29/2007 10:10:37 AM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th MountaiPn veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
To: ansel12
I don’t know where your political head is at, supporting the democrat over the republican for that senate seat is unfathomable.
***My political head is in the fact that Huffington shouldn’t have been there in the first place. A real candidate could have taken down Feinstein. But RINOs are taking over and you see the result: democrats in power.
2,701 posted on 11/29/2007 10:19:14 AM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
2,702 posted on 11/29/2007 10:22:36 AM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th MountaiPn veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
First, all of that is your opinion.
I could say the same of Hunter. He still doesn’t register in the polls past 0 and the avg. MOE, has been at it months longer and has little if anything to show for it. As you say, if you were honest with yourself you would see that it was true.
If we were to follow your analysis, who is doing well by In Trade, we should put all our resources to Huckabee or the R and R boys...
You are posting this stuff with “Forcefulness” because you are and have been a Hunter supporter. In your opinion and by the barest of numbers of individuals on the trading site Duncan did well. By the opinion of others Fred did, and some say Mitt.
I can take any data and make it fit a scenario if I wish. I don’t because all is in Flux. Like I asked before, what was In Trade saying about Dean’s chances before the scream?
I appreciate your efforts, but you are reaching at times. If you don’t think FDT should have anymore resources, don’t send him any. Thankfully you are not and cannot make that decision for all of us.
OK, now show where I support Feinstein.
Well Mr. Romney in two different threads you will not accept that it would have been better for Feinstein to have been defeated by the republican, in fact the very idea seems repugnant to you.
So did you desire the victory of the republican Huffington or the democrat feinstein in the 1994 senate race?
How do you feel about the race now?
First, all of that is your opinion.
***It’s also a matter of record. I posted the same analysis about Huckabee and now the analysis applies to Hunter.
I could say the same of Hunter. He still doesn’t register in the polls past 0 and the avg. MOE, has been at it months longer and has little if anything to show for it.
***As I’ve stated in other threads, that means Thompson supporters are asking Hunterites (like you right here right now) to care about polls when they obviously don’t care that much, and they’re asking Hucksterites to care about conservatism when it’s obvious that isn’t high on the Huck followers’ radar. Thompson is asking for both camps to care about the things they don’t care about.
As you say, if you were honest with yourself you would see that it was true.
***I know it’s true that the polls aren’t a good story for Hunter. But those same polls paint a pretty bleak picture for Thompson as well. If you’re a poll worshipper, go for the huckster — at least he’s pro-life.
If we were to follow your analysis, who is doing well by In Trade, we should put all our resources to Huckabee or the R and R boys...
***But that would be putting our resources behind someone who isn’t conservative.
You are posting this stuff with “Forcefulness” because you are and have been a Hunter supporter.
***And as a Hunter supporter, I posted an analysis that showed Huckster had won debates. Then the Huckster rose in the polls. That means the analysis is hardened by the removal of bias. Try to find any other analysis that supports Fred winning the debate that isn’t biased.
In your opinion and by the barest of numbers of individuals on the trading site Duncan did well. By the opinion of others Fred did, and some say Mitt.
***Here’s the crux of your argument — by the OPINION of others. Intrade is a bit more than that, it’s people who intend to make money by trading futures contracts. Find some Hucksterites who think Fred did well, or some Fred followers who think Ron Paul won the debate, and you would have found your unbiased resource rather than just someone with an opinion.
I can take any data and make it fit a scenario if I wish.
***That’s why I tend to ignore Ron Paulestinians who say that Ron Paul won the debate, and Fred followers who say Fred won the debate unless there’s some objective analysis to back it up. For several threads I posted that Huckster won the debate. That passes the objective analysis bar, and now that Hunter emerges as the winner by that same analysis, all of a sudden we see his naysayer gallery coming out to deny him victory.
I don’t because all is in Flux. Like I asked before, what was In Trade saying about Dean’s chances before the scream?
***Go find out for yourself. You seem to be focusing on one event as the threshold for success, rather than the aggregate summation of the data. The aggregate data is what drives the efficacy of trading markets as better predictors than those polls you try to pull out with their supposed margins of error and all.
I appreciate your efforts, but you are reaching at times.
***I don’t think I was reaching when I posted that Huckster won his debates. If someone followed my advice on the smart money thread, they would have tripled their money today. Of course, I was aiming at 40X return, which is more difficult and could be a reach.
If you don’t think FDT should have anymore resources, don’t send him any. Thankfully you are not and cannot make that decision for all of us.
***Why are you thankful? Hunter is a conservative; I’m supporting a conservative candidate on a conservative website and I’m posting objective evidence that he won the debate. When Fred got the NRLC endorsement I congratulated your team. I guess team fred just isn’t as gracious.
Well Mr. Romney in two different threads you will not accept that it would have been better for Feinstein to have been defeated by the republican, in fact the very idea seems repugnant to you.
***What is this Mr. Romney stuff? I voted for a republican in that race. 100% republican ticket. That is not supporting Feinstein.
So did you desire the victory of the republican Huffington or the democrat feinstein in the 1994 senate race?
***I voted 100% republican in that race. That should make you happy. Of course, it was a write-in for the conservative.
How do you feel about the race now?
***We pretty much covered this in post #80, RINO. What are you doing on this conservative site? Were you aware it is not affiliated with the GOP? How do you feel about that? It is, after all, on the front page of this website, by the founder of this website, so it strikes me as kinda important. More important than finding out how some freeper voted in an election 13 years ago when the choice was a RINO and a democrat, which may be the same choice we are faced with in the GOP soon. So answer the questions.
Better?
Gracious. Yes, better — better than I expected.
“Were you aware it is not affiliated with the GOP?”
That is why I am here I’m not a republican, I am a conservative, and I will not hesitate to say that Feinstein winning that election was a body blow to the 1994 conservative revolution, which was a powerful factor in our demise.
At least I think that I now fully understand your participation in this race and your political motivations.
Reading others’ motivations is a dangerous thing, you’re usually wrong.
You yourself said that Huffington was no prize, so if losing that race was a body blow to the conservative cause, you should re-read that first page post from JimRob and ask yourself what a conservative is.
Did conservatism win when aRINOld won? I know there’s an R in front of his name, but on the whole, we would have been better off if he didn’t run. We were right to support McClintock in that race.
Are you aware how many wartime Presidents have had significant military experience?
Changing it to steak might be better-if you’re going to use food.
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