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Hundreds Use Fake IDs for Food Stamps[NC][Social Security Numbers]
WRAL.com ^ | 12 Dec 2007 | WRAL

Posted on 12/14/2007 6:31:06 AM PST by BGHater

Raleigh — A state audit has found that hundreds of people have used bogus Social Security numbers to obtain food stamps.

From July 2002 to last April, 1,906 people were receiving food stamps from the state Department of Social Services based on invalid Social Security numbers, the audit report stated. Another 1,237 food stamp recipients were using the Social Security numbers of dead people, according to the audit.

DSS security measures had previously disqualified 5,840 people from the food stamp program after determining they were using phony Social Security numbers, according to the audit.

The error rate was much less than 1 percent, which is an acceptable level, the audit report stated.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: aliens; falseid; foodstamps; fraud; ids; immigrantlist; nc; socialsecurity

1 posted on 12/14/2007 6:31:07 AM PST by BGHater
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To: BGHater

But but but these poor people need to eat so they can attend the colleges. Rolls eyes.


2 posted on 12/14/2007 6:35:57 AM PST by donnab (saving liberal brains...one moron at a time.)
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To: BGHater
Here's the way my local paper spun this story yesterday:

Few lie to get food stamps, auditors find

3 posted on 12/14/2007 6:36:18 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: BGHater
Could these people possibly be -- dare I say it -- illegal aliens? That's a wild possibility, I know, but it just occurred to me. LOL.

Congressman Billybob

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4 posted on 12/14/2007 6:36:37 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: BGHater
The error rate was much less than 1 percent, which is an acceptable level, the audit report stated.

No, a 0% rate is acceptable. I'm sure that's an impossibility, but at least it's a goal to aim for.

5 posted on 12/14/2007 6:37:29 AM PST by YellowRoseofTx
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To: Congressman Billybob

Come on pal.....there isnt any illegals in NC!


6 posted on 12/14/2007 6:37:32 AM PST by rrrod
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To: donnab

7 posted on 12/14/2007 6:39:05 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: BGHater
The error rate was much less than 1 percent, which is an acceptable level...

Really? Tell that to the victims. God these people make me sick!

8 posted on 12/14/2007 6:39:20 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: BGHater
NC not the only place this is going on. I suspect this goes on all over the country. From yesterday in Washington Times:

Welfare loopholes found in Maryland

ANNAPOLIS — Maryland paid welfare benefits to about 52,000 residents who in 2006 did not provide Social Security numbers or used invalid ones, according to a state audit of the Family Investment Administration. The report, completed by the state Office of Legislative Audits, also found the computer software used to check eligibility for the federal food-stamps program and the state cash-assistance program could not check 90 percent of the recipients. The administration paid out $488 million from July 2006 to June 2007....

9 posted on 12/14/2007 6:39:33 AM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: BGHater
Nawth Carolina is proving that it is the New Jersey of the SE.

Why, oh why, do so many "good ol' boys" down there vote Democrat in state and local elections, when all its brought them is licenses for felons, food stamp fraud, and the 10th highest tax burden in the US?

10 posted on 12/14/2007 6:42:59 AM PST by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: BGHater

Prey tell who would use someone else’s SS#. Could they be illegal?


11 posted on 12/14/2007 6:48:25 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Clemenza

Because to many dam yankees from the narth est are moving in.....


12 posted on 12/14/2007 6:49:23 AM PST by captnorb
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To: BGHater

Is there anyone in jail yet?


13 posted on 12/14/2007 6:51:14 AM PST by Haddit (Hunter is still the Best)
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To: donnab
But but but these poor people need to eat so they can attend the colleges. Rolls eyes.

Beta me to it by a nano second ! :)

14 posted on 12/14/2007 7:07:55 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: BGHater
From July 2002 to last April, 1,906 people were receiving food stamps from the state Department of Social Services based on invalid Social Security numbers, the audit report stated. Another 1,237 food stamp recipients were using the Social Security numbers of dead people, according to the audit.

*snort* This is news to these people? Folks have been doing this since the advent of Food Stamps. It's also how one person collects multiple welfare payments, using several different SS numbers to get welfare for each of those 'people'.

15 posted on 12/14/2007 7:08:03 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: Congressman Billybob
Could these people possibly be -- dare I say it -- illegal aliens?

Probably not, we've had our own homegrown welfare cheats for decades. My Mama was a transcript clerk at a university in MS, 35 years ago, and told me of a call she received once from a woman who wanted an unofficial copy of her transcript. When Mama got her SS#, it didn't show that she'd graduated, only that she'd taken a couple of classes. Then the woman gave Mama a different name and SS#, and there it was. The woman had two SS# and had forgotten which one to use. Mama kept both numbers and called the local Soc. Sec. Admin. office. They basically said "ho-hum". Mama was furious!

16 posted on 12/14/2007 7:12:56 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

Cut ‘em off and arrest ‘em for fraud. If they’re illegal aliens, beat ‘em within an inch of their lives and send ‘em home. If they’re not, send ‘em to Sherrif Joe and let them work REALY REALLY hard for their food...


17 posted on 12/14/2007 7:13:20 AM PST by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: donnab

Libs’ attitude toward the poor is that we are required to provide for their needs.

However, when we see someone buying better food with foodstamps than we are with our EARNED cash, we DO have the right to be resentful.

We also have the right to be resentful when said foodstamp purchaser has perfect hair and nails, the latest iPhone, and puts his/her groceries in a new Escalade.


18 posted on 12/14/2007 7:16:41 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Clemenza

Route 13 is like the Alice in Wonderland tunnel from N.C. to NJ/NY.

Bars and strip joints all along the road. Young men in colors piled in the cars with N.C. plates.

N.C. kinda fell off the radar news wise when the black market cigarette ring was exposed and connected to the Michigan and Lackawanna cell. But I do remember food stamps being mentioned on the black market then too when that was in the news.


19 posted on 12/14/2007 7:21:56 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: BGHater

Why doesn’t this surprise me?


20 posted on 12/14/2007 7:22:03 AM PST by NRA1995 (Mr. President and Congress: This is OUR country and don't you forget it!)
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To: captnorb

Oh I don’t think it is the ‘damn Yankees’ N.C. has trouble with.


21 posted on 12/14/2007 7:22:34 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: BGHater

That sounds like fraud to me. has anyone been charged ?


22 posted on 12/14/2007 7:27:23 AM PST by BradtotheBone
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To: MrB

Oh my God! You must shop at the same grocery store I shop at.


23 posted on 12/14/2007 7:51:58 AM PST by sheana
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To: sheana

And when you bring up this scenario to a leftist, they deny that it ever happens.


24 posted on 12/14/2007 7:54:11 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
Few lie to get food stamps, auditors find

Another grad of Joseph Goebbels U.

25 posted on 12/14/2007 7:58:45 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Congressman Billybob
So, with all the millions in tax $$ collected by the state, the DHS can't crosscheck valid SS#'s before issuing needed food stamps?

Once again, one of the very big reasons why entitlement budgets are 40% more than they should be......total BS from the Hunt Machine and the Liberal March toward socialism.

26 posted on 12/14/2007 8:18:30 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

87,000 out of 452,000 population are collecting food stamps? That’s like 20% of every man, woman and child.

But the 20% represent households, with an average household at the poverty level of 3.5 then the number of county households at large becomes ~132,000 which could represent 65% of households?

The numbers on your link don’t add up or I have misread this.


27 posted on 12/14/2007 8:33:23 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: BGHater

It’s maddening. The other day I was paying for purchases at the grocery store at one of four self-service terminals. The other three people around me all paid with Pennsylvania Access cards. All three were apparently able-bodied adults in their 20s or 30s, one of them a white male.

You feel more and more like a sucker all the time for actually working and contributing to society.


28 posted on 12/14/2007 8:40:18 AM PST by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: denydenydeny

I’m old enough to remember when food stamps were actually, well, food stamps. Put another way there was a stigma associated with using them.

Now (I assume) “food stamps” are now Katrina style debit cards so not stigma, no muss, no fuss.

The “End of Welfare as We Know It”. Uh-huh.


29 posted on 12/14/2007 8:43:04 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: MrB

That actually happened to me and was the beginning of my own irritation with all this. When I was first married we drove a car we paid $54 for. We were on a strict budget and had gone grocery shopping. Ahead of us in line was a man who had the belt full of the best meats and seafood. I whispered to my husband ...wow he sure isnt on a budget. He pulled out food stamps to pay for his groceries. Thats not what riled me though. With that I just shook my head sadly, knowing how hard we were both working. However he was still in the parking lot putting all his groceries into the trunk of his brand new shiny Trans Am. Thats when I got angry.


30 posted on 12/14/2007 8:53:33 AM PST by donnab (saving liberal brains...one moron at a time.)
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To: BGHater

Why aren’t they simply arresting these people for fraud when the come to pick up their next check/stamp?


31 posted on 12/14/2007 8:53:45 AM PST by montag813
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To: BGHater

Screw the abled bodied person collecting food stamps. Let them starve. The schools have free lunch programs. Unless someone is physically or mentally handicapped, no food stamps.


32 posted on 12/14/2007 9:36:27 AM PST by Haddit (Hunter is still the Best)
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To: SuziQ

Actually, in NC, they probably *are* illegal aliens. This state is the most illegal-friendly state in the entire South. Here in Durham we are effectively a sanctuary city, and the mayor and entire city council that supported it were re-elected last month.

NC has a very strong agricultural industry lobby, and the ag industry fights tooth and nail to keep from giving up their cheap illegal labor. Combine that with a Rat administration (whose Governor fully supports illegals being able to attend state colleges) and you get what we’re calling “Carolina del Norte.” We’re drowning in illegal immigrants, and I have no doubt that when Georgia cracks down on their big illegal population, they’ll largely come here, where they will be welcomed with open arms, drivers’ licenses, community college educations, and slave-wage jobs slaughtering hogs and chickens.

}:-)4


33 posted on 12/14/2007 9:11:39 PM PST by Moose4 (Wasting away again in Michaelnifongville.)
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34 posted on 12/15/2007 7:55:58 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: Congressman Billybob

It cannot be true that there is even a remote possibility they are illegal aliens. Remember, they are much better people than regular Americans who are lazy and selfish. Immigrants who come here with a document deficit have the kind of family values that would preclude them cheating the system. You know that.
susie


35 posted on 12/15/2007 8:05:15 AM PST by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: BGHater
DSS security measures had previously disqualified 5,840 people from the food stamp program after determining they were using phony Social Security numbers, according to the audit.

Q: What happened to these thousands of people? Were they deported? Were they prosecuted and sent to prison?

A: None of the above. They starved to death!

36 posted on 12/15/2007 1:52:38 PM PST by melancholy (Beware of Ho Chi Minh's offspring, Ho She Marx , invading the WH.)
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To: melancholy
"They starved to death"

No such luck, melacholy - they just stole someone else's ID. They need those food stamps so they can eat free off our tax dollar, and send the saved money to their familias in Mexico.

37 posted on 12/15/2007 4:27:18 PM PST by yorkie ( For God so loved the world........................ that He didn't send a committee.)
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To: yorkie

You mean, you don’t feel sorry for these poor people who have no food stamps????


38 posted on 12/15/2007 4:28:57 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

Trust me, nic - they aren’t without food stamps for more than five minutes. In fact, it has been reported that the first thing the illegal immigrants do, when they get accross our (open) border, is sign up for food stamps, within three hours, with the help of a guy waiting behind the scenes. And for a price, he’ll even get them a social security card and a fake green card.


39 posted on 12/15/2007 4:35:20 PM PST by yorkie ( For God so loved the world........................ that He didn't send a committee.)
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To: yorkie; Borax Queen
Trust me...they aren’t without food stamps for more than five minutes.


40 posted on 12/15/2007 4:38:51 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Clemenza

B.T.S.O.M...


41 posted on 12/16/2007 12:54:44 PM PST by Prospero (Ad Astra!)
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