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Isolated Arizona Town Resorts to Second Amendment to Save Itself
Center for Individual Freedom ^ | Dec. 14, '07 | staff

Posted on 12/14/2007 6:08:54 PM PST by T.L.Sink

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To: donna; All
It’s in Maricopa County - Sheriff Arpaio could be notified. Maybe Arpaio is more than they want, LOL.

One of the problems is that Aguila is 80 road miles from down town Phoenix. It is in the NW corner of Maricopa County. Aguila has a population of around 3,700 folks putting them pretty low down on the totem pole for services.

I feel sorry for them....

21 posted on 12/14/2007 8:10:05 PM PST by az_gila (AZ - need less democrats)
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To: Joe Brower

Bang


22 posted on 12/14/2007 8:17:58 PM PST by wastedyears (Duncan Hunter is like a cheeseburger and fries. Simple presentation with no frills.)
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To: Das Outsider

Great point! I’m a Florida resident who owns a firearm, although not CCW. I’ll add another observation to yours. When FL was hit with one of the recent hurricanes, my county was devastated. We had no power, no phones, etc. The police were nonexistent. The destruction was widespread and the roads completely impassible. WE WERE ON OUR OWN! For me, this situation went on for more than a week. I had my gun to protect myself from any looters or other criminals. And guess what? There was virtually NO serious crime during this catastrophe. And the reason is that the potential criminals knew that many Floridians were armed. Compare that with the anarchy and criminal warfare of New Orleans, a liberal and anti-gun Mecca. By the way, I can tell you about a personal experience that illustrates the difference between an extreme anti-gun state and Florida.


23 posted on 12/14/2007 8:28:00 PM PST by T.L.Sink
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To: CDFingers
After a recent shooting here, in which I believe two people died, the local police revealed their average response time... That is, to "priority 1" calls - those in which there is an active assault etc. (murder, rape, shooting, etc.) the average response time is 9 minutes.

I don't know about you, but in 9 minutes I can raise a lot of hell. I expect someone assaulting a loved one would be able to too. Therefore I think we all need to be able to defend ourselves.

The police are there to defend society. ie. they will eventually capture and put the bad guy behind bars. However, that my not help the individuals. (ie. me and you) Therefore, everyone needs to be able to control a situation for, oh, say, 9 minutes... Grin, in 9 minutes I can take care of business (armed or not), and have time left over... The bad guys had better realize that there is a growing grass roots movement to kick-a$$ first, and ask questions later, if at all. Out west here, we get the job done, as the female security guard at New Life proved beyond a doubt.

24 posted on 12/14/2007 8:30:54 PM PST by CodeMasterPhilzar
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To: T.L.Sink

3,700 people. CCW the community and send the bill to Arpaio. Problem solved. He’ll pay the bill and show up with the check.


25 posted on 12/14/2007 9:11:41 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Joe Brower

Bang!


26 posted on 12/14/2007 9:31:29 PM PST by philman_36
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To: T.L.Sink
And the reason is that the potential criminals knew that many Floridians were armed.

An armed citizenry: One major reason why Hitler didn't--despite everything else--invade Switzerland. Have you studied their citizen militia, both then and now?

We as a nation are still fairly armed, and I think that has, in part, kept us from seeing the kind of localized Islamic terrorist attacks that have occurred in places like Great Britain, which has outlawed owning firearms altogether. Imagine putting a giant, brightly colored "Gun-Free Zone" sticker on your window for all the world to see.
27 posted on 12/14/2007 9:41:21 PM PST by Das Outsider (Your brutha from the original mutha.)
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To: T.L.Sink
By the way, I can tell you about a personal experience that illustrates the difference between an extreme anti-gun state and Florida.

Do tell.
28 posted on 12/14/2007 10:03:50 PM PST by Das Outsider (Your brutha from the original mutha.)
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To: Das Outsider

I’ve heard it said that the Swiss are required to be in possession of a firearm. And there are more homicides in one ward in Newark, NJ than in all of Switzerland! Not only did Hitler disarm the civilian population but it was one of the main objectives of the Bolsheviks after the October Revolution.


29 posted on 12/14/2007 10:17:27 PM PST by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink
I’ve heard it said that the Swiss are required to be in possession of a firearm. And there are more homicides in one ward in Newark, NJ than in all of Switzerland!

The Swiss Armed Forces are sort of weird. Historically, they have been a mix of conventional, federal forces and citizen militia. I should add that the national sport of Switzerland is shooting, and--at least in recent memory--sportsmen were allowed to carry rifles in public--a sight that would send most liberals to the ground with their wallet (or man-purse in San Franpsycho) in outstretched hand.

Disarmament of a nation's citizenry is key to domination, either by foreign nations or enemies within. Of course the Democrats--whoops, I mean--Bolsheviks wanted it! Of course the Nazis wanted it!

What are the helpless, dependent lemmings going to do otherwise? Vote against an army? Where are your Constitutional rights at the business end of a rifle?
30 posted on 12/14/2007 10:35:53 PM PST by Das Outsider (If the First Amendment were as regulated as the Second, I wouldn't be able to say the....)
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To: Das Outsider

Police are historians. The show up after the crime and document what happened. luckily our our department is good at solving and apprehending the perpetrators. New Life Church shows who really stops crime.


31 posted on 12/14/2007 10:43:24 PM PST by Eaglefixer
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To: Das Outsider
(or man-purse in San Franpsycho)

Hey, don't insult my man-purse; you try Florida heat with a .45 slappin' against yer naughty-bits ;o)

32 posted on 12/14/2007 10:44:12 PM PST by papertyger (changing words quickly metastasizes into changing facts -- Ann Coulter)
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To: Eaglefixer
Police are historians. The show up after the crime and document what happened. luckily our our department is good at solving and apprehending the perpetrators. New Life Church shows who really stops crime.

A church with guns? How dare they? Get me Janet Reno, stat! ;)
33 posted on 12/14/2007 10:52:27 PM PST by Das Outsider (If the First Amendment were as regulated as the Second, I wouldn't be able to say the....)
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To: papertyger
Hey, don't insult my man-purse; you try Florida heat with a .45 slappin' against yer naughty-bits ;o)

OK, but so long as you don't have toner and/or Liza CDs in there.

In fact, most man-purse carriers might not complain as much as you, for obvious reasons. ;)
34 posted on 12/14/2007 10:56:05 PM PST by Das Outsider (If the First Amendment were as regulated as the Second, I wouldn't be able to say the....)
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To: Das Outsider

Most people think of New Jersey as a densely populated, urbanized state. But in the southern part of it there is a vast tract of land (about a million acres) known as the Pine Barrens, or Pinelands. There are some fantastic hiking trails and I took my young son there to hike one of those trails. I won’t go into all the dramatic details but we were attacked by a pack of wild dogs. We barely made it to our car in the nick of time. Otherwise, we’d have been mauled to death. Before that the idea of getting a gun never crossed my mind. However, after that horrendous episode I swore I’d never be defenseless in such a situation again. Thus began my ordeal. I went to the local police station to apply for a permit. I was photographed, fingerprinted, and subjected to investigation by state and federal agencies. I was given three forms to be completed by non-relations. These forms involved very personal questions about employment, personal habits, and psychology. And I was told by the local police chief (who actually laughed as he was talking) to forget about a handgun. SO - after 13 months(!!!) - I was given a permit for a Ruger 22 rifle. Later, when I relocated to Florida, I went into one of the local retailers and decided to purchase a .38 Special. They did a complete computer background check in 15 minutes and I walked out with my revolver! I was so shocked at what had happened that I kept expecting a squad car to stop me and confiscate my gun! I should add that every day during those 13 months when I read the Newark Star Ledger or the Asbury Park Press, I saw endless accounts of criminals who used firearms to murder, rob, and rape. Meanwhile, there I sat as a law-abiding citizen waiting for permission to be able to defend myself. I discovered the hard way that the old cliche is true - that laws prohibiting Second Amendment rights only disarm the innocent, not the criminal.


35 posted on 12/14/2007 11:05:05 PM PST by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

Whoa! When was this? Without a previous firearms-related offense, and with a fairly clean legal background (including the mandatory permit training), you should have been able to get a concealed-carry permit without any hassle. I’m not too familiar with the laws in Jersey, however.


36 posted on 12/14/2007 11:19:57 PM PST by Das Outsider (If the First Amendment were as regulated as the Second, I wouldn't be able to say the....)
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To: T.L.Sink

BTW, the Pinelands are historically known for Jersey Devil sightings, correct?


37 posted on 12/14/2007 11:24:28 PM PST by Das Outsider (If the First Amendment were as regulated as the Second, I wouldn't be able to say the....)
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To: T.L.Sink
And I was told by the local police chief (who actually laughed as he was talking) to forget about a handgun.

But it was a respectful laugh, right?

38 posted on 12/14/2007 11:39:39 PM PST by papertyger (changing words quickly metastasizes into changing facts -- Ann Coulter)
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To: Das Outsider

Yes, the Jersey Devil! One of the great Garden State legends of the Pinelands. A guy named McPherson wrote a book about these legends, includig the “Pineys,” an allegedly murderous and incestuous group who added to the fear of this mysterious land. I’ll tell you something that’s true and also added to this sense of drama. When I was a kid, people from Philadelphia or the Camden County area of New Jersey used to take Route 70 on their way to the great Jersey shore. Often when they had car trouble they would venture into the woods seeking some help or a phone which (being urbanites/suburbanites) they were certain couldn’t be too far away. They were NEVER seen again. I needn’t tell you how easy it is to become hopelessly lost when you start roaming around in a wilderness. This wasn’t anything unusual and we kids were sure that the “Devil” or the “Pineys” got them. Anyway, I’d rather be here in FL than back there - especially since so many tell me things are really going from bad to worse there. Besides, as I said before, there are so many of us here in the Sunshine State I sometimes feel I never left!


39 posted on 12/14/2007 11:57:06 PM PST by T.L.Sink
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To: papertyger

It was respectful but I guess he couldn’t help laughing at my naivete! Today, I can’t help laughing at myself either!


40 posted on 12/15/2007 12:15:20 AM PST by T.L.Sink
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