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Greens, Atheists Attack Chanukah Candles cause global warming, Maccabees compared to Osama.
The Jewish Week ^ | 12/12/2007 | by Jonathan Mark

Posted on 12/14/2007 7:12:57 PM PST by Forgiven_Sinner

Christopher Hitchens’ attack on Chanukah has received no major push-back to date in major media outlets.

Several weeks ago, the Jewish world shook its collective fist at Ann Coulter’s audacity in admitting on CNBC (Oct. 8) that she, a Christian, believed in Christianity: “We just want Jews to be perfected,” said Coulter. “That’s what Christianity is.”

The Anti-Defamation called her “anti-Semitic.” They lectured her about the power of words “to injure others and fuel hatred.” On the Web, the popular blog Wonkette, blared, how will Coulter “finally complete Hitler’s Dream? She’s going to convert all the poor lost Jews to her religion,” although Coulter had no plans to do that.

From across the United States came editorials and organization press releases demanding news shows blacklist her. But now Chanukah, of all things, is getting slashed and burned in ways far more offensive than anything Coulter ever said, but with almost no media or organizational defense of the old holiday, or condemnations of its critics.

Jewcy, an online hipster magazine praised by The Guardian in the UK for being “a cultural icon at the forefront of a new wave of Jewish culture and pride,” greeted Chanukah (Dec. 4) with the headline, “A Very Osama Hanukkah.” Writer Steve Almond describes himself as assimilated and intermarried, but his wife wanted to convert to Judaism so he did some homework: He concludes, “Osama Bin Laden may be the person on the planet most attuned to the joys of Hanukkah.” After all, the Maccabees were an “insurgency,” and Eliezer, one of the Maccabees, who died sacrificing himself in battle, “sounds to me like a Biblical version of the suicide bombers who launch themselves at military convoys in Iraq. He isn’t trying to kill and maim innocent bystanders, so it’s not an exact comparison, but his mindset is essentially the same: He relishes the chance to give his life in exchange for the glory of the cause, and his own name.”

When Judah Maccabee decapitated an enemy general, Almond writes, “isn’t the gesture really just an old school version of the decapitation videos Al Qaeda uses today to horrify its Western foes?” Chanukah is “about a strain of unchecked aggression that infects those who are convinced that God is on their side.”

Slate, a usually excellent online journal, offered this headline (Dec. 3): Chanukah “celebrates the triumph of tribal Jewish backwardness.”

The writer, Christopher Hitchens, author of “God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything,” argues that if Judaism would have been conveniently eliminated by the Greek-Syrians, “we would never have had to hear of Jesus.” And “without the precedents of Orthodox Judaism and Roman Christianity... there would be no Islam, either.... When Judaism repudiated Athens for Jerusalem, the development of the whole of humanity was terribly retarded.”

So far, no condemnations of Slate or Hitchens, no fist shaking across the continent and, to the best of our knowledge, no major media rebuttal except by Rabbi Michael Lerner of Tikkun.

In Israel, environmentalists charged that lighting Chanukah candles contributes to global warming. This is a serious charge. As syndicated columnist Ellen Goodman wrote earlier this year in The Boston Globe (Feb. 9), “Let’s just say that global warming deniers are now on a par with Holocaust deniers,” and she’s not the only one to make that comparison. Can we expect media support for legal ordeals, boycotts and reprisals against “green” denial as there is for Holocaust denial?

Gil Hoffman reports in the Jerusalem Post (Dec. 4), “In a campaign that has spread like wildfire across the Internet, a group of Israeli environmentalists is encouraging Jews around the world to light at least one less candle this Hanukka to help the environment. The founders of the Green Hanukkia campaign found that every candle that burns completely produces 15 grams of carbon dioxide. If an estimated one million Israeli households light for eight days, they said, it would do significant damage to the atmosphere.”

Liad Ortar, the campaign’s cofounder, told the Post, “Global warming is a milestone in human evolution that requires us to rethink how we live our lives, and one of the main paradigms of that is religion and how it fits into the current situation.”

Rabbi Benny Lau of Jerusalem’s Ramban Congregation, who considers himself an environmental activist, told the Post, “People in the green movement who have an agenda have unfortunately made it anti-religious.... The damage ends up being a thousand times the benefit.”

Tikkun’s Rabbi Lerner, driving force behind the interreligious Network of Spiritual Progressives, told The Jewish Week in a phone conversation, that Hitchens, and other malevolent critics are “simply ignorant of the history of interpretation of Torah that has developed over the course of the past 2,500 years. From the perspective of many of the anti-religious types in our society, there is really no difference between fundamentalist religion and religion as a whole. In liberal and progressive circles, and (not just liberal) academic circles, there is deep antagonism toward religion, a deep conviction that religion is fundamentally irrational, and that those who believe in God are at a lower level of intellectual and psychological development.”

He added that Tikkun to some extent is isolated by Jewish liberals “because we’re pro-God.” He laughed at the “ludicrous” greens who see Chanukah as a threat to the earth rather than a gift to it.

And somehow, all over the world, Jews lit candles, told the old stories, praised God and enjoyed the eight days and nights as they have for centuries, undeterred by the assault dujour, each assailant thinking himself more enlightened than his Jewish targets.

The Chanukah lesson for the new wave of bitter atheists and anti-God radicals, says Lerner, is that when people are “faced with the choice between an imperialist system that is ‘enlightenment’ oriented, and a religious system that is love oriented, people choose the love.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Israel
KEYWORDS: christianity; coulter; hanukkah; media; msm
A good article that notes the media's hypocrisy of attacking Ann Coulter for saying she believes in Christianity, compared to their silence over Hitchens and others who say the world would be better off without Jews. Hmmmn, seems I heard that before, last century, wasn't it???
1 posted on 12/14/2007 7:13:00 PM PST by Forgiven_Sinner
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
And, in deference to the Ann Coulter Rule on Free Republic, here's Ann:
2 posted on 12/14/2007 7:15:05 PM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (The most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that it is at all comprehensible.)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

What next?


3 posted on 12/14/2007 7:17:39 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

It’s no more insulting to Jews for a Christian to state that Christianity is “superior” to Judaism than it is to Christians for Jews to make the opposite claim.


4 posted on 12/14/2007 7:28:14 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

Over the last forty years I’ve noticed that when a holiday arrives and an iconclastic opposition group springs up, the news media will automaticly move toward that group.

Maybe it is the old newspaper rule...On a slow news day throw a dead cat in front of a politician and report his reaction.
In this case it is... throw an iconclastic viewpoint in front of a religious person and report the reaction.


5 posted on 12/14/2007 7:39:13 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Only infidel blood can quench Muslim thirst-- Abdul-Jalil Nazeer al-Karouri)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

‘On the Web, the popular blog Wonkette, blared, how will Coulter “finally complete Hitler’s Dream? She’s going to convert all the poor lost Jews to her religion,” although Coulter had no plans to do that.’

Hitler’s dream was to rid the world of both Jews and Christians; the latter he viewed as “polluted” with “Jewish tainted” ideas. His contempt for the Christian churches, and especially the clergy, was complete.

Wonkette is just an ignorant twit.


6 posted on 12/14/2007 7:46:33 PM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
Gil Hoffman reports in the Jerusalem Post (Dec. 4), “In a campaign that has spread like wildfire across the Internet, a group of Israeli environmentalists is encouraging Jews around the world to light at least one less candle this Hanukka to help the environment. The founders of the Green Hanukkia campaign found that every candle that burns completely produces 15 grams of carbon dioxide. If an estimated one million Israeli households light for eight days, they said, it would do significant damage to the atmosphere.”

You have GOT to be kidding me!

Am I the only person who remembered the dire predictions of weather calamity that were supposed to occur when Sadaam set fire to the Kuwaiti oil fields back in the Gulf War?

Why, if the atmosphere can't handle a lousy 15 extra gms of C02, would that have not PERMANENTLY catapulted us toward disaster?

I recently started selling candles - nice ones, made in the USA and everything. Never been much of a candle person, but now it seems I'm burning them every day for HOURS at a time. And I also have this nasty habit of breathing. And if there's any global warming, could someone please send it my way? It's pretty nippy here right now.

7 posted on 12/14/2007 8:05:11 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (Call-screening, non-polled Wisconsinite for Fred!)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

Greens, Atheists Attack Chanukah Candles cause global warming

Please tell me this is satire. Hanukkah candles cause global warming??! You've gotta be joking. Just when I thought people couldn't get any more stupid...

And isn't it funny how everyone goes wild over a few comments by Ann Coulter or Mel Gibson about Jews, but doesn't say a word when some Iranian dictator threatens to kill ALL the Jews and wipe Israel clean off the map?


8 posted on 12/14/2007 8:14:55 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: Mygirlsmom
Why, if the atmosphere can't handle a lousy 15 extra gms of C02, would that have not PERMANENTLY catapulted us toward disaster?

Hey! We can offset the candles CO2 by having a bunch of "Chanukah bushes!"

Mark

9 posted on 12/14/2007 8:39:26 PM PST by MarkL
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To: MarkL
Hey! We can offset the candles CO2 by having a bunch of "Chanukah bushes!"

There you go again... blaming the Bushes!

10 posted on 12/14/2007 8:55:45 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Hey! We can offset the candles CO2 by having a bunch of "Chanukah bushes!"

There you go again... blaming the Bushes!

Not this time!!! This time, "The Bushes fix the problem!!!"

Mark

11 posted on 12/14/2007 9:04:41 PM PST by MarkL
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
Writer Steve Almond describes himself as assimilated and intermarried, but his wife wanted to convert to Judaism so he did some homework: He concludes, “Osama Bin Laden may be the person on the planet most attuned to the joys of Hanukkah.” After all, the Maccabees were an “insurgency,” and Eliezer, one of the Maccabees, who died sacrificing himself in battle, “sounds to me like a Biblical version of the suicide bombers who launch themselves at military convoys in Iraq. He isn’t trying to kill and maim innocent bystanders, so it’s not an exact comparison, but his mindset is essentially the same: He relishes the chance to give his life in exchange for the glory of the cause, and his own name.”

According to this dolt, this is only a minor consideration. And liberals wonder why we think they're idiots?

12 posted on 12/15/2007 12:52:44 AM PST by Zero Sum (Marxism is the opiate of the masses.)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
“In a campaign that has spread like wildfire across the Internet, a group of Israeli environmentalists is encouraging Jews around the world to light at least one less candle this Hanukka to help the environment. The founders of the Green Hanukkia campaign found that every candle that burns completely produces 15 grams of carbon dioxide. If an estimated one million Israeli households light for eight days, they said, it would do significant damage to the atmosphere.”

Don't worry! I'll smoke an extra turkey next year to make up for the loss of carbon dioxide by not burning a Hanukka candle.

13 posted on 12/15/2007 12:58:25 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
Rabbi Benny Lau of Jerusalem’s Ramban Congregation, who considers himself an environmental activist, told the Post, “People in the green movement who have an agenda have unfortunately made it anti-religious.... The damage ends up being a thousand times the benefit.”

Hey, I think I just found a new tagline!

"Liberalism: The damage ends up being a thousand times the benefit!" :)

14 posted on 12/15/2007 1:17:00 AM PST by Zero Sum (Liberalism: The damage ends up being a thousand times the benefit! (apologies to Rabbi Benny Lau))
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

“network of spiritual progressives.”

kind of like a cracked bell.


15 posted on 12/15/2007 6:55:24 AM PST by ripley
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To: MarkL

Go ahead and burn your Channukah candles—you can use my offsets. I promise not to burn any this year! ;)


16 posted on 12/15/2007 6:58:41 AM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (The most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that it is at all comprehensible.)
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To: Zero Sum; Forgiven_Sinner
Writer Steve Almond describes himself as assimilated and intermarried, but his wife wanted to convert to Judaism so he did some homework: He concludes, “Osama Bin Laden may be the person on the planet most attuned to the joys of Hanukkah.” After all, the Maccabees were an “insurgency,” and Eliezer, one of the Maccabees, who died sacrificing himself in battle, “sounds to me like a Biblical version of the suicide bombers who launch themselves at military convoys in Iraq. He isn’t trying to kill and maim innocent bystanders, so it’s not an exact comparison, but his mindset is essentially the same: He relishes the chance to give his life in exchange for the glory of the cause, and his own name.”

According to this dolt, this is only a minor consideration. And liberals wonder why we think they're idiots?

Just another example of "moral relativism," which in reality is a complete LACK of morals. It allows the leftist to excuse ANYTHING. It allows them to justify any horrible action, no matter what the cost or results. That's one of the reasons that many of the most brutal and deadly regimes have been by leftists of one stripe or another throughout history, and certainly within the last 100 years.

Mark

17 posted on 12/15/2007 7:53:14 AM PST by MarkL
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To: Zero Sum
He isn’t trying to kill and maim innocent bystanders, so it’s not an exact comparison, but his mindset is essentially the same: He relishes the chance to give his life in exchange for the glory of the cause, and his own name.”

I haven't noticed Osama relishing the chance to give his OWN life.

18 posted on 12/16/2007 5:54:55 PM PST by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; 2ndDivisionVet; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; af_vet_rr; agrace; Aiko; ...
Chanukah “celebrates the triumph of tribal Jewish backwardness.”

Michael Medved says the same thing.

BTW, Chanukah ended last week, so no more of this "Happy Holidays" baloney. MERRY CHRISTMAS FREEPERS

FReepMail to be added or removed from this pro-Israel/Judaic/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

19 posted on 12/16/2007 6:02:07 PM PST by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: MarkL

Bush’s fault.


20 posted on 12/16/2007 6:06:19 PM PST by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

The subject of the sermon in my Reform Jewish service was Christopher Hitchens. Though our (Canadian immigrant) rabbi is an extreme liberal, he did take Hitchens apart, argument by argument.


21 posted on 12/16/2007 6:07:22 PM PST by JBGUSA (If it's us or them, I choose us.)
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To: Alouette

22 posted on 12/16/2007 6:30:24 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

Damn, she looks real nasty in that pic.


23 posted on 12/16/2007 9:14:51 PM PST by montag813
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To: Alouette
"BTW, Chanukah ended last week, so no more of this "Happy Holidays" baloney. MERRY CHRISTMAS FREEPERS"

:))) Alouette, you are a wonderful friend! Thank you!

"Greens, Atheists Attack Chanukah Candles cause global warming"

What?!?!!? The brain-deficients think Chanukah candles cause global warming?!?!?! They're serious?!!?!?!?!?! Puleeeeeeeze! Get out about 100 menorahs and give me room, my lighter and I will be busy for a while! Then I'll crank on a bunch of Christmas trees and really get the loons out of joint!
24 posted on 12/17/2007 6:00:50 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (A voter wavering between wanting radical change and burning the damn place down)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; ...
Jewcy, an online hipster magazine... greeted Chanukah (Dec. 4) with the headline, "A Very Osama Hanukkah." Writer Steve Almond... concludes, "Osama Bin Laden may be the person on the planet most attuned to the joys of Hanukkah." After all, the Maccabees were an "insurgency," and Eliezer, one of the Maccabees, who died sacrificing himself in battle, "sounds to me like a Biblical version of the suicide bombers who launch themselves at military convoys in Iraq..." When Judah Maccabee decapitated an enemy general, Almond writes, "isn't the gesture really just an old school version of the decapitation videos Al Qaeda uses today to horrify its Western foes?" ...Christopher Hitchens... argues that if Judaism would have been conveniently eliminated by the Greek-Syrians, "we would never have had to hear of Jesus." And "without the precedents of Orthodox Judaism and Roman Christianity... there would be no Islam, either..." In Israel, environmentalists charged that lighting Chanukah candles contributes to global warming... Ellen Goodman wrote earlier this year in The Boston Globe (Feb. 9), "Let's just say that global warming deniers are now on a par with Holocaust deniers," and she's not the only one to make that comparison... Gil Hoffman reports in the Jerusalem Post (Dec. 4), "...The founders of the Green Hanukkia campaign found that every candle that burns completely produces 15 grams of carbon dioxide. If an estimated one million Israeli households light for eight days, they said, it would do significant damage to the atmosphere."
...and Christmas carolling caused 9/11.
25 posted on 12/18/2007 11:22:46 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, December 10, 2007____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner; SunkenCiv
After all, the Maccabees were an “insurgency,” and Eliezer, one of the Maccabees, who died sacrificing himself in battle, “sounds to me like a Biblical version of the suicide bombers who launch themselves at military convoys in Iraq.

It wasn't a sacrifice so much as a lesson gone wrong. Eliezer told his soldiers that the best way to kill a war elephant was to run underneath and stab it with a spear, but when he demonstrated in the middle of a battle, the elephant fell on him. I believe that Eliezer's death was the oldest known case in history where somebody's last words were, "Hey y'all, watch this!"

26 posted on 12/18/2007 6:51:15 PM PST by Berosus ("The candidates that can't face Fox News can't face Al Qaeda."--Roger Ailes)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

27 posted on 12/18/2007 6:55:54 PM PST by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Berosus

:’D


28 posted on 12/18/2007 6:59:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, December 18, 2007___________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Alouette

Great picture!!!!


29 posted on 12/19/2007 4:10:02 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (A voter wavering between wanting radical change and burning the damn place down)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
The pagans hate Hannukah because it teaches Man is not a god... he must bow to the Creator who made him and who is the true source of his dignity and freedom.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

30 posted on 12/19/2007 4:16:16 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Gay State Conservative
The Holocaust issue deservedly give Judaism a lot of respect and leeway.

Jewish folks deserve a lot for what has happened in the past. And considering how Europe and the Middle East are currently behaving ... I hope we stand firm with our Jewish brethren.

31 posted on 12/19/2007 4:18:40 AM PST by Porterville (Don't bug me about my grammar, you are not that great.)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
Greens, Atheists Attack Chanukah Candles cause global warming, Maccabees compared to Osama.

Greens and atheists generally are moral and intellectual brothers. They both use the most outmoded, illogical, hysterial, and intentionally deceptive arguments to avoid reality while retaining a point of view that enables them to feel superior while doing nothing more to defend it than sneering and asserting that their opponents are not worthy of a response or should be overthrown for the benefit of mankind.
32 posted on 12/19/2007 4:19:34 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

Who’s next? Catholic and Orthodox churches use a lot of candles. Will they be attacked next?


33 posted on 12/19/2007 4:25:16 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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