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Huckabee Faces Old Queries in New Spotlight (nonprofit Action America)
NY Times ^ | 12/15/07 | Leslie Wayne

Posted on 12/15/2007 6:57:02 PM PST by NormsRevenge

When Mike Huckabee became lieutenant governor of Arkansas in 1993, he complained of being burdened by college tuition bills for his son, the expenses of two residences — one in Texarkana and the other in Little Rock — and the cost of commuting between the two.

With an annual salary of $25,452, he said he was falling short in covering the bills. “It was costing me money to be lieutenant governor,” Mr. Huckabee recalled in a 1997 newspaper interview.

To bridge the gap between his income and his expenses, Mr. Huckabee and a few close political advisers came up with a plan. They formed a nonprofit organization that raised money for Mr. Huckabee to travel the country promoting conservative politics to fellow ministers and attacking Hillary Rodham Clinton’s health care plan.

In its three-year life span, the organization, Action America, collected $119,916 from a dozen or so donors. Among them were former Senator Bob Dole’s political action committee, an Arkansas cotton gin owner who had been jailed for stock fraud, and R. J. Reynolds, the tobacco giant that had opposed the Clinton health plan.

As for Mr. Huckabee, he ended up with $61,500 for his efforts before becoming governor in July 1996 and shuttering the group.

As information about the secretive group began to leak out in 1997, Democrats in Arkansas pressed for the identity of its donors, which Mr. Huckabee has refused to disclose. ...

As Mr. Huckabee moves to the top tier of Republican candidates, his involvement in Action America and accusations of ethical lapses while he held office in Arkansas are drawing new scrutiny. In all, at least 16 ethics complaints, including the one involving Action America, were filed against Mr. Huckabee, with violations found in five of them and a $1,000 fine assessed.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: actionamerica; huckabee; nonprofit; queries; spotlight

1 posted on 12/15/2007 6:57:03 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

So....is that a big deal that the Reynolds Tobacco people backed him? Does this disqualify for him because he didn’t get in all of his paper work, dot his í’s and cross his t’s? Small stuff for me to give it much worry.


2 posted on 12/15/2007 7:03:12 PM PST by rovenstinez
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To: rovenstinez
So....is that a big deal that the Reynolds Tobacco people backed him?

You do realize that this joker called for a national smoking ban, do you? Can you say "hypocrisy?"

3 posted on 12/15/2007 7:08:36 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: rovenstinez

You gotta admit that $25,452 is not a huge salary.


4 posted on 12/15/2007 7:13:32 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Politicians have to weigh sacrifice against need all the time.. that wasn’t a lot then but it’s what he signed on for..


5 posted on 12/15/2007 7:15:01 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I can, and I agree with you.

I’ll never cast my vote for Chucklebee.


6 posted on 12/15/2007 7:19:40 PM PST by Hilltop (?)
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To: NormsRevenge

No arguments. But a $25k salary is more or less encouraging the officeholder to “supplement” his salary, as the old New Orleans police force did. The idea was that it saved the taxpayers money over funding a fully paid force.


7 posted on 12/15/2007 7:20:35 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Good point,, shades of part-time legislators actually being a sane and safe way to govern the masses,, a great idea and one we could readily afford today across the nation as many states have become nothing more than ‘puppy mills for legislation’ that does more to grease their palms than benefit the public.

I think the main point on this piece is that he refused to acknowledge he was getting tobacco money even as he denied it.. and expected others to accept him at his word. The record would seem to speak otherwise, however.


8 posted on 12/15/2007 7:27:35 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: Sherman Logan

At that time I was making less than that in base pay as a service member.

Should I have considered myself “encouraged” to “supplement” my income in unsavory ways?


9 posted on 12/15/2007 7:29:36 PM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: ExpatGator

I’m not condoning what he did. I’m saying that a state should pay a reasonable salary to its high officials. A part-time legislator is one thing. A lt. gov. is another.

Also, as I understand it a service member generally has certain basic living expenses (food, lodging, clothing) partially or fully paid by the service. Is this incorrect?


10 posted on 12/15/2007 7:33:23 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: NormsRevenge

the rombotho’s must be runnin’

scared!


11 posted on 12/15/2007 7:33:50 PM PST by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: Sherman Logan
But a $25k salary is more or less encouraging the officeholder to “supplement” his salary

Low government salaries seem to inspire Arkansas politicians to all sorts of creative endeavors to supplement their pay. Can you say Whitewater?

Huckabee should be toast. Why he isn't is way beyond the capabilities of my pea-brain to discern.

12 posted on 12/15/2007 7:35:02 PM PST by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Not just the smoking ban EEE. He put Hillary’s health plan through in Arkansas.

Healthy People 2010 IS Hillary’s health plan.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1563271/posts


http://www.jbpub.com/samples/0763735205/35205_CH02_FINAL.pdf
Promoting Health for a Nation: Healthy People 2010

Excerpt:

OBJECTIVES
After studying this chapter, the student should be able to 1. Explain the historical development process of Healthy People 2010.
2. Describe the goals, objectives, and function of Healthy People 2010.
3. Identify the 10 leading health indicators used to monitor progress toward Healthy People 2010 objectives.
4. Describe the processes used to evaluate the impact of Healthy People 2010 objectives.

Snip, snip, snip, etc.

Chapter 2 Promoting Health for a Nation: Healthy People 2010

Access to Health Care
The health care system is really designed to reward you for being unhealthy. If you are a healthy person and work hard to be healthy, there are no benefits.
Mike Huckabee, Governor of Arkansas

Snip, snip, snip, etc.

http://www.cbn.com/700club/guests/bios/mike_huckabee_121504.aspx
Arkansas Gov. Huckabee Reverses Type-II Diabetes

Snip, snip, snip, snip etc.

[Mike Huckabee] has created “Healthy Arkansas,” an initiative that sets the state on a course to reach the Healthy People 2010 goals in obesity, physical inactivity, and tobacco use. The program is a comprehensive effort to clearly define specific areas where behavioral changes can lead to healthier citizens. Efforts include enlisting the media in disseminating information and presenting awards to encourage the participants.

Mike Huckabee even publishes his books under grant initiatives from Robert Wood Johnson, the main funders of Healthy People 2010.

Robert Wood Johnson Foundation Annual Report:
http://www.rwjf.org/files/publications/annual/2006/presidents-endnotes.html

Mike Huckabee’s books are listed here.


13 posted on 12/15/2007 7:35:17 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Sherman Logan

“Also, as I understand it a service member generally has certain basic living expenses (food, lodging, clothing) partially or fully paid by the service. Is this incorrect?”

You are quite correct. I specified “base pay” for that reason. I am sure that the Lt.Gov. also received other compensation as well.

Although in my case it was shipboard food (an abuse of the concept of food) and a sleeping area referred to as a “coffin” (for good reason). The clothing allowance came nowhere near to replacement costs of uniforms wiped out onboard ship. I feel safe assuming that the Lt.Gov. had a better deal ;)


14 posted on 12/15/2007 7:46:06 PM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: ExpatGator

Thanks you, and you are probably right.


15 posted on 12/15/2007 7:50:42 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: NormsRevenge
Then in 2003, Huckabee (aka Elmer Pantry) appears to have had gastric bypass , attributed the 110 lbs. weight loss to his amazing diet, and authored a diet book to bring in a bit of cash.


16 posted on 12/15/2007 7:55:04 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: NormsRevenge
The MSM has unleashed negative story after negative story about the Huckster but we're supposed to believe his lead is a result of MSM promotion? Doesn't wash.
17 posted on 12/15/2007 7:58:31 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Ol' Sparky

It sure adds a bit of intrigue to the mix, eh?

I guess we’ll have to wait it out thru a few more weeks before the rubber hits the road and then we’ll see which way the wind truly blows besides up Crusty’s skirt


18 posted on 12/15/2007 8:01:49 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: All

My thought is that it is not so much that he got money from this “Action America” thing but that he consistently refused to reveal who was donating the money.
If his trips around the country to urge pastors to get their congregations to oppose the Clinton health plan were indeed financed by Reynolds Tobacco, both the pastors and the congregations should have been told of the Reynolds backing. Since many evangelicals oppose smoking altogether, it might well have made a difference in the weight they gave Huckabee’s speeches.


19 posted on 12/15/2007 8:14:16 PM PST by EdJay
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To: rovenstinez

“is that a big deal that the Reynolds Tobacco people backed him?”

Yeah — I think to some folks it might be a “big deal”. He was going around the country on Reynolds money telling pastors to tell their congregations to oppose the Clinton health plan. A lot of those evangelicals he was talking to absolutely oppose smoking; they should have been told he was doing it on tobacco money.


There’s also the fact that he now claims he didn’t know that any money came from Reynolds; the Reynolds people say he knew. It seems unlikely to me that he wouldn’t know where all this money was coming from.
Methinks the good Reverend may be (gasp) LYING.


20 posted on 12/15/2007 8:19:51 PM PST by EdJay
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To: NormsRevenge

Why can’t we stick to the issues? Huckabee is bad on immigration. All these other stupid nit-picky things just distract from the real issues.

Pile-on time, hm?

Where are all the stories on that adulterer, the former governor of New York?


21 posted on 12/15/2007 8:31:36 PM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Since they reported an in depth investigation into Hillary’s $1 million of illegal campaign money, going after Huckabee seems even handed. </sarcams>


22 posted on 12/15/2007 8:35:43 PM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: Theo
Why can’t we stick to the issues? Huckabee is bad on immigration. All these other stupid nit-picky things just distract from the real issues.

I recall a similar defense made by liberals on behalf of Bill Clinton during the impeachment hearings.

Huck is demonstrably dishonest, an ethics disaster. This isn't "nit-picky" stuff. It goes right to the core of the man, it defines the kind of leader he would be--one that cannot be trusted or believed.

I'm astounded that you would defend him on these grounds.

23 posted on 12/15/2007 8:41:26 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: Theo

stupid nit-picky

piling on

Thanks for your comments. I’ll try and stay on topic in the future. ;-)


24 posted on 12/15/2007 8:45:03 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: Dutch Boy
Since they reported an in depth investigation into Hillary’s $1 million of illegal campaign money, going after Huckabee seems even handed. \\sarcams\\

Actually there may be some truth to this, but it's clear from this, Salon, et.al., Democrat ruling classes have determined Hillary is melting down, and would drag the ticket down with her nationwise. The Christmas "Loss Of Signal" marketing period is now officially underway, and the NYT's sudden interest in Gov. Huckabee indicates the Democrat Party line is also being directed at him, as well.

His Republican opponents have been shouting the back story of Huckabee for weeks, but when the NYT starts discovering what all of us have read in detail here as "news," then the other Drive By's will pick up the same strategies. Huckabee is going to be in trouble long before he could possible do anything about it before Iowa.

25 posted on 12/15/2007 8:54:02 PM PST by Prospero (Ad Astra!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Where did Huckabee’s son go to college?


26 posted on 12/15/2007 8:59:53 PM PST by Texas Eagle (Could pacifists exist if there weren't people brave enough to go to war for their right to exist?)
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To: Sherman Logan
Clinton ran for President as the worst paid governor in America, the AK Lt. Gov. got less. He claimed that’s why Hillary had to bring home the, um, cattle futures. It probably wasn’t an issue when the Rockefellers were Gov., but I suspect otherwise AK had a tradition of politicians earning their keep off the public dole and probably bragging about how poorly they were paid to the unquestioning voters.
27 posted on 12/15/2007 9:03:21 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer
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To: JCEccles

If you saw my denunciation of Huckabee as a “defense” of the man, then you’ve got some serious issues. He’s wrong on a lot of issues, and I plan on not voting for the guy. But calling him Satan is beyond ridiculous, and will rouse some people to actually vote for him.


28 posted on 12/15/2007 9:14:53 PM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: NormsRevenge

How many different versions of his theology degree has Huckabee described? In the Times he says communication and speech. To CBN he says theology. To NRO he says religion and speech. To WND, he says some new combination. Normally, at the Presidential level, people expect no red flags except Huck has this 2 year something and he wants to dictate foreign and domestic policy, and he sounds like a corrupt televangelist.


29 posted on 12/15/2007 11:45:00 PM PST by ridge
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To: ExpatGator

‘At that time I was making less than that in base pay as a service member.

Should I have considered myself “encouraged” to “supplement” my income in unsavory ways?

unless you wanted to discuss it in the context of a court martial, maybe not. Some animals are more equal than others.

being an elected official at the state level (or federal, see congress), though, is generally understood to include self-enrichment as a goal for most applicants, despite the proclamations of shock among many.


30 posted on 12/16/2007 1:10:40 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: JCEccles

’ This isn’t “nit-picky” stuff. It goes right to the core of the man, it defines the kind of leader he would be—one that cannot be trusted or believed. ‘

also, any huckabee administration would just be spectacularly corrupt, aka bill clinton.


31 posted on 12/16/2007 1:13:43 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: JohnBovenmyer

Not AK but AR is Arkansas...just to be sure not to confuse anyone! NO HUCK-fo-me!


32 posted on 12/16/2007 6:43:54 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Hilltop

I too will never cast my vote for Chucklebee. You know I have never applied for a job that could not afford me. If the $ 25,000. job didn’t meet you financial needs why did you ask for it? I think he is just another po boy like clintoon looking for the big bucks. Why did you quit being a preacher? God couldn’t supply all your needs??? He is supplying all mine and hundreds million of other people too.


33 posted on 12/16/2007 11:12:36 AM PST by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: iopscusa
Thanks for correcting my bad. I didn’t mean to blame the good folks in Alaska for Huck&Bill nor would I want to blame good folks in Arkansas for Ted Stevens.
34 posted on 12/16/2007 12:23:56 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer
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