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The facts in the article are from various news sources on the web, and can be checked out pretty easily. Much of the MSM is referring to Jeanne as a "security guard", inferring that she was licensed by the state.

It is interesting to note that if she had been licensed by the state, she would have been prevented from using the Beretta that she used to stop the crime.

1 posted on 12/16/2007 10:43:49 AM PST by marktwain
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Good thing she wasn't licensed by the state. A Beretta is a good gun. I can't see why one would be barred from carrying one. She saved a lot of lives that day.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 12/16/2007 10:46:35 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Sven rounds from a S&W 686+ would, I think, have decided the issue.


3 posted on 12/16/2007 10:48:22 AM PST by claudiustg (You know it. I know it.)
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Being that Beretta likely murdered his wife, I don't think he would make a good security guard either.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time, and keep your eye on the sparrow!

4 posted on 12/16/2007 10:50:17 AM PST by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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good loop-hole may be the same in other states....good to know for those who want to hire heat.


6 posted on 12/16/2007 10:51:49 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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7 posted on 12/16/2007 10:51:56 AM PST by Deo volente
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An AP article published on 12 December noted that licensed security guards in Colorado Springs are restricted to the use of revolvers.

Please cite the CRS #

9 posted on 12/16/2007 10:54:42 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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One hit from a 1911 would have been better.


11 posted on 12/16/2007 10:56:09 AM PST by fella (The proper application of the truth far more important than the knowledge of it's existance."Ike")
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interesting read concerning our second amendment rights.


15 posted on 12/16/2007 11:00:59 AM PST by GOPPachyderm
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It is interesting to note that if she had been licensed by the state, she would have been prevented from using the Beretta that she used to stop the crime.

Considering that the Beretta is a pretty big gun, she probably would have had a .357 wheelgun if that's what she had been restricted to. The perp would be just as dead.

Of course the perp had a 9mm semiautomatic too, but I guess wackos aren't restricted the way security guards are. Sheesh.

16 posted on 12/16/2007 11:01:00 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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Who needs a “licensed security” guard?
Last summer we attended a rather large wedding in our town. The bride was from a well known family so there were a few hundred souls present - enough to pack the church.

As I sat myself towards the back, I looked around and counted a minimum of 14 people (all positioned near the back and/or doors) I knew were all carrying, myself included. Concealed by my sportcoat was a Glock 31 plus two spare mags. That’s 46 rounds of 357 Sig, and I was just one person. Some folks I know carry two guns. We are all seasoned competitors.
Heaven help anyone who started trouble.

These do-gooder jackasses need to quit splitting hairs and get off the backs of people who will stand up to evil.


17 posted on 12/16/2007 11:01:43 AM PST by LFOD (IRAQ - Back in Dixie)
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It is nearly a case of “No good deed goes unpunished”..


19 posted on 12/16/2007 11:03:00 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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She only needed a license if she was being compensated. She and the others were volunteers, like ushers, setup crews for the functions, ect...


21 posted on 12/16/2007 11:03:27 AM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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Well she could stick with name brand...


22 posted on 12/16/2007 11:04:07 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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It is interesting to note that if she had been licensed by the state, she would have been prevented from using the Beretta that she used to stop the crime.

Don't know about any state license requirements, but the rule about a wheel gun as opposed to a semi auto is a city ordnance. So the link says.

25 posted on 12/16/2007 11:06:39 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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One alternate interpretation of "revolver" that might improve the odds...


29 posted on 12/16/2007 11:09:55 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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http://www.state.co.us/oed/industry-license/IndDetail.cfm?id=114

THE STATE OF COLORADO DOES NOT LICENSE SECURITY GUARDS

Many local governments license security services, and may require criminal background checks and bonds. Business must check with every local authority where security service is provided.

Permit/registration required with local law enforcement if carrying gun.

31 posted on 12/16/2007 11:10:48 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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Have it your way you idiot gun controlers.

32 posted on 12/16/2007 11:13:04 AM PST by Navy Patriot (The hyphen American with the loudest whine gets the grease.)
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I wonder if we could get the grouping photos from the autopsy? Proud of her!


43 posted on 12/16/2007 11:34:27 AM PST by Walkingfeather (u)
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There are some S&W K- and N- frame revolvers that would have done the trick.
44 posted on 12/16/2007 11:36:46 AM PST by delacoert
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Grammar is all.

The title uses “may,” which is basically the subjunctive in modern English usage, and suggests that she WAS a security guard and it’s POSSIBLE therefore that she would not have been able to use that particular weapon.

However, she was not a security guard, and thus she was simply using a particular weapon that was perfectly legimate for her to use.

Therefore, the headline should have been, “Colorado Heroine Would Have Been Legally Prevented from Using Beretta if a Security Guard.”


46 posted on 12/16/2007 11:39:49 AM PST by livius
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