Is it me and my politically incorrect thinking?
Posted on 12/16/2007 3:38:58 PM PST by achilles2000
GIG HARBOR, Wash. -- A Pierce County High School student is back in school after a three-day suspension for warning classmates about a sex offender on campus.
Last week, Raydon Gilmore found a 16-year-old fellow student at Gig Harbor High School at the Washington State Sex Offender Information Center, a Web site that lists the state's level 2 and level 3 sex offenders.
"Then it hit me that I was in P.E. freshman year, and this kid was there for a while and he was my neighbor at my locker," Gilmore told KIRO 7 Eyewitness News.
The 16-year-old was convicted of indecent liberties and using force.
Gilmore made copies of the announcement and started handing them out to classmates "to let them know that we're going to school with dangerous people and to be more aware." Three other students helped create and distribute fliers. He said minutes later, the school's principal caught up with him.
Gilmore was suspended for three days. School officials said the fliers amounted to harassment and he was interfering with other students' education, according to school documents....
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Let’s play protect the pervert.
Unfortunately, the government school is institutionally “a pervert”.
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Of course, the school administration has definitely overreacted ... but I'm saying the law may have done so as well.
Looks like when it comes time to protect the kids with a warning...
then the administration ain’t for “free speech”.
No, its protect the principal.
“He said the students misused school property and they violated a rule that state officials must approve any materials that students post on campus walls.”
Oh my !!!
I guess somebody has egg on their face that they didn’t warn the other students. WOW.
What was the principal thinking? ——It’s only on the internet, so it must not be public information.——
This comes under the heading “Educators are some of the stupidest people in America”.
It was harrasement. He should have stuck to plain old word of mouth.
The principal thought that he could protect the kid’s privacy. My question is: was the kid being monitored? If not, the the rights of the other kids to a secure environment were not being protected. One of them ought to press charges.
The state is at odds with itself. The court or the sheriff is posting the info to protect the public and the principal is trying to protect the offender.
My wife is a high school teacher and agrees it’s about power.
The kid shouldn’t be expelled or suspended. On the other hand, that probably explains how a classmate got on the sexual offender list: Over reaching, over reacting “zero tolerance that doesn’t even take the age of a child or the circumstances of the event into account.
A 16 year old has no business on a “sex offender” list that’s published on line.
It’s doubtful that he or she is actually guilty of a sexual offense at that age. A 16 year old - or someone younger, since it was (hopefully) prior act - is not legally competent to give consent in most states, how can he or she be labeled for the rest of his life?
This is a liberal arts cultural center. He probably winked at a girl and offered to take her for pizza and a movie.
Many 16-year-old are almost fully grown, and in other times and places such people would not be allowed in scholl, or would be placed in “homes.” This kid may be such a person.
Exactly. And while "indecent liberties" isn't rape, how common is it now to plea down charges? It's entirely possible the indecent liberties was actually something more serious.
And here’s another one...
When I was in education we used to be required to attend a political correctness seminar once a year which went under the rubric of diversity awareness. There was always a pretest, which I always “aced.” Somebody asked me how I did that. I told the truth. You just pick the answer that is the dumbest choice and you’ll nail every question every time.
Gee, maybe the ACLU will come to the aid of this kid and his 1st amendment rights /sarc
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Incredible. Our district MAILS out announcements of registered sex offenders living within a certain distance of the school, complete with pictures.
No kid would need to do that around here. The whole student body would know before the cops did. Small school with a few very large families so it’s very well connected.
I think you meant “Administrators are some of the stupidest people in America”...Educators are something else entirely!
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The original title was more descriptive and also reflected the stupidity of the administrators, wouldn't you say?
Never mind, it’s been fixed.
Guess it isn’t fair to mention that the murderer in the Colorado church shootings was home schooled, right?
I know a kid who was kicked out of the public school because he was so bad, and he was heading to JD. The mother had no choice but to homeschool. His problems were not the result of homeschooling; homeschooling was the result of his problems.
Sure, if he had gone and shot up a school people could have pointed to that and said “Look a homeschooler. Proof that homeschooling produces misfits.” (like has been done.)
So going over the history of all the other school shootings in this country, exactly how many were homeschooled who weren’t in public schools at one point?
From the school’s website....
Contact Us
5101 Rosedale St NW Gig Harbor WA 98335
Phone: (253) 530-1400 Fax: (253) 530-1420
Counseling office: (253) 530-1430 Fax (253) 530-1439
Attendance Voicemail: (253) 530-1429
Greg Schellenberg-Principal
Michelle Bruski-Dumpert- Asst. Principal
Lyle McIntosh- Asst. Principal
My brother teaches in Galt, CA and believes he is in hell when it comes to his co-workers. He used to liberal in his thinking until he finally figured out there are a group of people out there that want to fix the world’s problems with ours and his money. He just keeps his mouth shut and head down.
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The government punished this young man for exercising his human and First Amendment Rights to free press and freedom of association.
When will people finally get it?
First Amendment Rights, freed of conscience, and government schools are utterly incompatible! They can NOT co-exist! They can NOT occupy the same space at the same time!
Millions of kids go through the day every day without incident.
Yet someone like you will pick the aberration as a reason to home school.
Wow...a school administrator IN ANOTHER STATE OVER A THOUSAND MILES AWAY does something questionable or even outrageously dumb and that is a reason for me pull my kids out of public school and home school them?
That is loony.
If not, the the rights of the other kids to a secure environment were not being protected.
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The parents’ and kids’ First Amendment Right to free association is completely trashed every day by every government school all over this nation.
This is merely one of 45,000,000 daily examples.
Government schools and First Amendment Rights are completely and utterly incompatible! It is axiomatic.
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Every parent and child who is forced by threat of police action to imprison their child daily in a government school has their First Amendment Right to free association TRASHED by the government!
I don’t call that an “aberration”! That is a daily ( 45,000,000 person) event!
But,,,hey!...There are few million lucky parents and kids. They can afford to **ransom** their kids from the government bureaucrats. They get to pay extra in private and home school expenses.
Is it me and my politically incorrect thinking?
School districts are a reflection of the community.
If yours suck, it GIGO in action.
But it is easier to blame the government, isn’t it?
I agree. A neighbor’s girl was ‘mooning’ when a bunch of the kids were hanging out and she wouldn’t stop. My son thought to ‘gross her out’ and so mooned her back. He got arrested, charged and was found guilty of indecent exposure - an automatic 15 years on the Offender registry. He was 14, the girl was 12 (other assorted ages there also) but her friend wasn’t quite 12 yet and so therein lies the ‘automatic’ part - because she was under 12, there is no plea, no lessening of charges, no bargaining. Cut and dry.
They also tried to get him for ‘solicitation of a minor’ because he told one of the other boys “Well, I bet $3 YOU won’t do it!” That one was dropped.
So this kid is on it until he’s 29. For mooning someone. There are some bad people on that list but not every one is a danger to society.
Amelia, If this type of dysfunction were isolated, I would agree. Unfortunately, it isn’t.
You nailed it.
We need parents AND all other taxpayers to pay attention, get involved, and get vocal.
Change can happen - but it has to come from the outside.
What would you expect, teachers come from the bottom 10% of most colleges. The top 10% of graduates are in the hard sciences.
They don’t want the sex offender to be run out of the school, he is worth $8000 per year in state aid.
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