Skip to comments.LAUSD (Los Angeles) payroll system price tag balloons - $ 210 Million!!
Posted on 12/17/2007 6:28:10 PM PST by Loud Mime
Ten months after installing a new computerized payroll process that has been roiled by glitches, Los Angeles Unified officials now say costs for fixing the system and completing its rollout could top $210 million.
The system, with an original price tag of $95 million, has underpaid or overpaid thousands of employees, and last week district officials said hiring consultants to fix it has already ballooned the cost to $132.5 million.
And some officials are questioning the district's transparency on all the costs associated with the system, noting that at least $6 million will be forfeited by allowing some overpaid teachers to keep the money.
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This news will be growing....there's corruption in them thar halls
They just won’t get paid for several months...and those who didn’t get paid may never see their wages.
Standard operating procedure at LA Mummified!
EVERYTHING SCREWED UP!
Hey, it's Los Angeles. It's California. Nobody cares.
You have a noteworthy personal page on FR. Good Stuff!
Ya ever go to any big city hall? There are thousands of employees that spend all day long just wandering around as if lost. It’s really amazing.
Why, thank you!
Must be nice to write a government contract. Somehow I don’t think I’d get away with selling something to my private-sector customers and then telling them they had to pay 150% of the purchase price to a third party to get the product to do what I said it would do. Seriously, how is the original vendor not on the hook to make the system work as promised?
Absolutely standard operating procedure for Caleefornia, and my answer is as series as your question!
A friend of mine works for the County Surveyors, he says that there’s several people on the staff who may put in three hours of work a day.
...and they’re earning retirement too...
Let’s see 40 hours x $15/hour = $600 Pay me!
Their security is pretty impressive. At LAUSD they even call it "headquarters". They got several dozen cops at the entrance as if they're waiting to be stormed or invaded, with x-ray machines, scanners, bomb detectors, cameras, vicious dogs at the ready...LA City hall is even better...Looks like the entrance to Guantanamo, only more secure.
Government schools in action!! Waste your money and demand for more “for the children!”
How long will the parents keep trusting these idiocrats?
You can bet the system properly deducted NEA union dues.
“Seriously, how is the original vendor not on the hook to make the system work as promised?”
Usually on large implementations like this its a combination of over promising and the customer being inept. Its very difficult to deploy these and a lot depends on the customer.
Most likely the product will do what they said it would. Its just not mapped to the processes properly.
If the NEA had a stake in missing payroll deductions we’d see action...and lawsuits.
Wonder how many books you could buy for $210 million.
27 years I have been involved in software. Before most of the world even knew what software was.
This is inexcusable.
On KFI radio this afternoon they talked about all the warnings they got about this accounting system, over 200!
Sounds like some of the folks I work with....except that they if they put in 3 hours a day, it would be an improvement...LOL.
What software did they roll out? System rollouts like this are extremely risky and usually very expensive.
No matter which software they went with there would be tons of horror stories.
Where did they get the payroll system from? Mexico?
I can just envision fist fights breaking out among the teachers when they compare paychecks and find out who got too much and who got ripped off
Freepers help me remember. Wasn’t there some involvement in this consulting company by Al Gore. The genius who invented the internet. Or was it someone else from the Clinton administration. I can’t remember all the details but I remember the stories about cost overruns and a lack of on time delivery.
Don’t necessarily be blaming the School District for this one.
“Toilet and Douche” (Deloitte & Touche) are the contractors responsible for the roll out. It is they that are not performing and demanding more money to fix the problems.
radio link is here. LAUSD Payroll 3PM Hr (12/17)
Does that mean that basically the stuff that the district is gonna have to pay $100M+ to do are things that the vendor would have expected any customer to do and that the customer would have expected to happen ‘’by magic’’? In that case I would fully blame the school district, as long as the vendor did deliver what was promised. I have to deal with customers sometimes who expect things that are neither part of the contract nor would be logical things for me to deliver, but yet are for some reason expected, usually because the customer thinks that their contract for a specified product and service also includes an unlimited right to my time and resources until the customer has what he pretended the contract said.
Pardon my chiming in, just a guess. A diversely owned business?
Question: What does this have in common with the news, about 15 years ago that the newly developed California State DMV computer system would be scrapped for a total waste of over $100 million of taxpayer money?
Answer: Nobody gets fired. It doesn’t really matter. The same team who failed with this gross failure and waste will be reconstituted into a new team who will be assigned to start yet another system from scratch.
“Does that mean that basically the stuff that the district is gonna have to pay $100M+ to do are things that the vendor would have expected any customer to do and that the customer would have expected to happen by magic?”
Frequently its because these systems require changes to processes that the customer can’t or won’t agree to. Changes across department lines so dept heads are involved and their fiefdoms are threatened.
“I have to deal with customers sometimes who expect things that are neither part of the contract nor would be logical things for me to deliver,”
Same here, well worded contracts are my friend. Of course Deloitt coulda screwed up too. SAP deployments are no fun.
Government employees don't get fired. They only get tax payer paid, pay raises, and more and improved medical benefits, while their generous government retirement pensions continue to bloat.
...and of course they get a better job title.