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Thompson says 'saddle me up' in campaign (Giddyup!)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 12/18/07 | Libby Quaid - ap

Posted on 12/18/2007 10:46:23 AM PST by NormsRevenge

MANCHESTER, Iowa - Republican Fred Thompson says if he can be a presidential horse for conservatives to ride in the campaign, "All I've got to say is saddle me up."

Thompson was touring Iowa by bus rather than on horseback Tuesday, saying he's got the potential to come on fast in the final days before the state's Jan. 3 caucuses.

Thompson, who has occasionally been labeled a less-than-energetic campaigner, spoke with enthusiasm to about 30 people at a town hall in Manchester while his blue campaign bus, emblazoned with a huge picture of his head and shoulders, waited outside.

"We're taking it now to where it needs to be," Thompson told his audience. "This is where it starts. This is where we are. this is where we're going to be. ... We're going to make sure we meet everybody we can possibly meet."

Thompson is spending the final two weeks of the campaign in Iowa traveling the state with his wife, Jeri.

He referred to the GOP debate last week in Iowa, where he drew praise for refusing to comply when asked for a show of hands on a question about global warming.

"I said, `Nope,'" and everybody pulled their hand down and looked around," Thompson said. "I just said to my buddies up there, `How are you going to stand up to the leaders of Iran and North Korea if you can't stand up to an overbearing moderator?'"

He made his saddle-me-up comment after saying a newspaper had said he had given conservatives "a horse to ride" in the campaign.

On Tuesday, Thompson listed some of his main issues — the role of the federal government, judges, taxes, Social Security — and took questions about trade, the value of the dollar and how he would end the Iraq war and bring troops home.

"I think we have to stabilize that place so that people can get up and go to worship without fear of being blown up," he said.

He reiterated the case he made during the Iowa debate: "When our worst enemy is sitting down at the negotiating table thinking about what they can get away with, or thinking about what they might could do to the United States of America, who do you want representing us on our side of the table looking back at them?"

Thompson is battling for a third-place showing in Iowa, where former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee recently surged ahead of former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney in state polls. No candidate has gone on to become the nominee without placing in the top three in Iowa.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: campaign; fredthompson; giddyup; ia2008; saddle; thompson
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To: DWar

so instead of bemoaning the fact and repeating the pablum of the MSM...enlighten those around you...push positively...
and make a diffence.


51 posted on 12/18/2007 1:32:44 PM PST by donnab (saving liberal brains...one moron at a time.)
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To: donnab

um that would be difference...spell check required ...
goes for more coffee.


52 posted on 12/18/2007 1:35:08 PM PST by donnab (saving liberal brains...one moron at a time.)
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To: donnab

“How is a tired, uninspiring, old, right on all the issues Fred going to win the hearts of the feel good, look good average American voter while competing agains the youthful, energetic, glib tongued, wrong on all the issues Obama?”

What was it that Reagan said during that debate? Something like,”I won’t use my opponent’s youth or experience against him.”


53 posted on 12/18/2007 1:36:02 PM PST by camerongood210 (Only the dead have seen the end of war)
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To: camerongood210; DWar

You should be asking DWar...
thats their quote not mine.


54 posted on 12/18/2007 1:39:51 PM PST by donnab (saving liberal brains...one moron at a time.)
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To: DWar
His personality is uninspiring.

LOL!

You're a Duncan Hunter supporter.

55 posted on 12/18/2007 1:43:56 PM PST by Petronski (Reject the liberal superfecta: huckabee, romney, giuliani, mccain)
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To: Spiff
...the headlong dive for the bottom that it has been since he’s announced.

Bzzzt. That's a lie. His position in the polls on Rasmussen has been steady for six weeks.

...He’s leveling out at the bottom...

Bzzzt. Another lie. LRon, Tancredo and Hunter are the bottom. Fred remains statistically tied for third with McCain and Slick Willard on Rasmussen.

56 posted on 12/18/2007 1:47:01 PM PST by Petronski (Reject the liberal superfecta: huckabee, romney, giuliani, mccain)
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To: ejonesie22; perfect_rovian_storm; Reagan Man

The Romney Sleaze Machine never sleeps.


57 posted on 12/18/2007 1:47:52 PM PST by Petronski (Reject the liberal superfecta: huckabee, romney, giuliani, mccain)
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To: donnab

“You should be asking DWar...
thats their quote not mine.”

Sorry, just didn’t feel like scrolling all the way up the page and finding where he said it.


58 posted on 12/18/2007 1:48:03 PM PST by camerongood210 (Only the dead have seen the end of war)
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To: upsdriver
Fraud Thompson is a moderate like Dole.

Fred's the only conservative who has a shot.

Let me know when Hunter Duncan polls higher than the margin of error.

59 posted on 12/18/2007 1:49:50 PM PST by Petronski (Reject the liberal superfecta: huckabee, romney, giuliani, mccain)
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To: donnab

The first step in making change is admiting one is needed.

Pushing positively is what I’m trying to do here.
See #48.

Too many Fredheads just want to deny the problem, say it is a fabrication of the MSM, or even the it’s an advantage.

That’s a recipe for losing.


60 posted on 12/18/2007 1:50:09 PM PST by DWar
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To: DWar
The average American voter can’t identify Afganistan on the world map. They vote based on image and impression.

Sad, but true.

61 posted on 12/18/2007 1:53:01 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: donnab

That’s a perfect example of turing the issue around. Plus Reagan had far more natural charisma than Fred. But that’s the kind of thing Fred needs to do. Knowing Reagan did it doesn’t help Fred.

He needs to DO something to change the his image or at least negate the criticism.


62 posted on 12/18/2007 1:53:15 PM PST by DWar
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To: Petronski

I’m not a “supporter”.

I think he is more conservative than Fred, that’s all. I’m in favor of the most conservative ocupant of the White House I can get. I’m also realistic enough to understand that Hunter hasn’t got a chance.


63 posted on 12/18/2007 1:55:18 PM PST by DWar
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To: DWar

Not really. Some of us ...and I include myself, refuse to parrot what the MSM has been promoting and obviously some are buying into. I merely refute it and point out the good and positive things. So far in your posts you have reflected on the negative. The MSM does a good enough job of that. A good candidate does not need his so called supporters to do the same by pointing it out again and again. It would be more constructive and effective if a supporter supports and continues to point out the why should one consider voting for the man.
Ill bet you see the glass half empty too.
And by the way...I am not in denial...I see him differently than you do. And I have watched alot of his videos and campaign stumps. This whole he is lazy came directly from the MSM. I am afraid that people like yourself just perpetrate it by repeating it instead of refuting it.


64 posted on 12/18/2007 1:57:05 PM PST by donnab (saving liberal brains...one moron at a time.)
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To: camerongood210

no apology necessary...I just did not want to be associated with a gloom and doom quote as that.


65 posted on 12/18/2007 1:59:13 PM PST by donnab (saving liberal brains...one moron at a time.)
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To: DWar
..the tactic of discrediting the witness instead of dealing with the issues is one employed by liberals

And repeatedly saying lazy blah blah fire in the belly blah blah in an attempt to explain the liberal MSM's accusation is the same as Clinton's campaign people "apologizing" for "cocaine" "drug dealer" "Hussein" "Muslim" against Obama by continuing to say cocaine, drug dealer, Hussein, and Muslim in their apology.

It is perpetuating falsehoods about FDT.

66 posted on 12/18/2007 1:59:25 PM PST by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("If you don't have my army supplied, and keep it supplied, we'll eat your mules up, sir"-Gen.Sherman)
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To: NormsRevenge
C'mon Fred...pull out all the stops. Run like Hillary Clinton is chasing you for your body. You can sleep all day, January 4th, the day after the Caucuses.

RUN FRED; RUN!!!
67 posted on 12/18/2007 2:05:19 PM PST by no dems (FRED THOMPSON: The only Conservative running who can beat Hillary or Obama.)
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To: DWar
Pushing positively is what I’m trying to do here.

I think I understand your point. How do you win the votes of the "ignorant"? Of those who are too busy or don't care enough to pay attention to who's right on the issues, etc. Those who, by default, seem to be content with letting the media tell them who to vote for. It is a sad reality, as someone else stated, but a true one.

I'm trusting that his campaign has some well-qualified people who are working on that issue. But it is certainly a valid concern. I'm using my small contributions, bumper-stickers, and phone calls to do what I can.
68 posted on 12/18/2007 2:08:13 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Petronski

GO FRED GO!!!


69 posted on 12/18/2007 2:08:35 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: NormsRevenge

as long as he didn’t say, “eeeeeeeeeeyaaahaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!”


70 posted on 12/18/2007 2:11:17 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (chaos is an illusion.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Our fundamental principles are under assault from a left-wing, big government, high taxing, weak on national security Democratic Party,"

via FRed'08
71 posted on 12/18/2007 2:12:58 PM PST by papasmurf (FRed Thompson is head and shoulders above the rest. Vote for America, vote for FRed!)
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To: DWar
You really need to study more Fred clips, long ones.

I have seen him and Jeri in person. The confidence, energy, and underlying determination are there. This is a real man who we all saw defying the moderator in Iowa.

I have a middle-aged friend who likes Fred but says he can't win because of the pop culture 'look young= most energy' canard.

She thinks the the voters are looking for style over substance. If her prediction holds true regarding Republicans in 2007, then I fear our Republic is on its deathbed.

'We have given you a Republic -- if you can keep it.' Ben Franklin

72 posted on 12/18/2007 2:14:39 PM PST by 22cal (Forgiven, not perfected)
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To: donnab

Refuting as in:
Just a couple of examples...
Fred at the Iowa debate...
1)no hand show- clearly showed leadership and made the rest of the podium look like followers to the extent that Romney said, “Im with him”...LOL thats a Fred stump motto....Im with Fred..even Romney is with Fred.
2)Quick witted responses...again with Romney
I inspire to be like Romney and not worry about taxes.
Romney: I inspire to be like you.
Fred: You are getting to be a pretty good actor.
Romney: Takes one to know one.
3)Freds responses to a stupid AP candidates questions:
What is your most prized possession? Trophy wife.
What is your lazy day activity? Campaigning.

When these things are pointed out ...the image changes.
Perspective changes.
I might ask who is in denial?


73 posted on 12/18/2007 2:17:43 PM PST by donnab (saving liberal brains...one moron at a time.)
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To: 22cal

I just wish Fred wouldn’t say stuff like “Saddle me up.” It’s not what you think—I’ve been a widow now for six months, and trust me, if he weren’t married, I’d be baking some fresh homemade rolls for him.


74 posted on 12/18/2007 2:20:25 PM PST by Judith Anne (I refuse to have a tagline anymore. Nope. Not gonna do it. Won't go there.)
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To: DWar
But at some point reality stands larger than the dream.

This from a die-hard Hunter supporter?

You have NO credibility here, sir.

75 posted on 12/18/2007 2:27:43 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: DWar

#73 was meant for you...
Time for me to step away LOL


76 posted on 12/18/2007 2:30:02 PM PST by donnab (saving liberal brains...one moron at a time.)
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To: donnab
Fred has the Momentum heading into the Iowa caucuses.

Huckabee has peaked, and Mitt already blew his trump card with the "look at me, I'm a victim" religion speech.

77 posted on 12/18/2007 2:42:01 PM PST by JohnnyZ (victim victim Mitt victim victim Romneyvictim victim victim so persecuted, poor me!)
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To: Petronski
Bzzzt. Another lie. LRon, Tancredo and Hunter are the bottom. Fred remains statistically tied for third with McCain and Slick Willard on Rasmussen.

Actually, Spiff left himself a bit of wiggle room there. His post was that Thompson was at the bottom of the *leaders*, or some such. I don't recall the exact language and don't care to scroll back upthread, but I noticed the careful choice of words. Tied for third place is arguably the bottom of the 1st tier.

This is just beginning to get interesting.

78 posted on 12/18/2007 2:48:13 PM PST by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: Spiff
The polls show Romney doing quite well. Today, he's within the MoE of Giuliani according to Rasmussen. When the Huckabee bubble pops (as it is in the process of doing), Romney's going to enjoy a well-timed surge.

With spin like that, how do you manage to even get up and walk around?
79 posted on 12/18/2007 3:02:42 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: John Valentine

Perhaps you haven’t had the time to read all of the posts.
Declaring me to be a Hunter “supporter” is to establish a strawman so you can ridicule me for something I’m not.

#63 clearly says:

I’m not a “supporter”.

I think he is more conservative than Fred, that’s all. I’m in favor of the most conservative ocupant of the White House I can get. I’m also realistic enough to understand that Hunter hasn’t got a chance.

I might add, blindly denying that Fred has an image problem with the average voter renders his chances smaller not larger.


80 posted on 12/18/2007 4:10:44 PM PST by DWar
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To: mylife

How big is the town in the first place? I’ve been approached too many times in the past couple of weeks about my Fred08 bumpersticker, and even by a lady who could hear me listening to Senator Thompson’s interview on Laura Ingram tonight in the car, to think that Fred doesn’t stand a good chance. I think his supporters could be a silent majority. The polls are meaningless.

Woooo HOOOOO! Go FRED!


81 posted on 12/18/2007 4:20:42 PM PST by Honeybunch ("Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind." ~Rudyard Kipling)
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To: DWar
A realist.

I did not ask you what your outlook on life was. The thought you expressed on this thread was a mindless parroting of someone else's thoughts. Try and have a thought of your own, thinking is so important. What do you think?

82 posted on 12/18/2007 4:21:27 PM PST by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: donnab

You don’t have to convince me of his strength of character(#1); or his ability to compete in banter (#2 & 3). Pointing things out does not change the image in the hearts and minds of voters. Image is not intellectual but rather an emotional perception, an instinctive reaction. For example it won’t matter how many testimonials Hillary gets about how likeable she is the “gut” reaction of the American voter is that she is not.

In the same way I think Fred must DO SOMETHING probably many somethings to change the image. Everyone wants to flame me because I won’t put my head in the sand yet I’m the only one who has made some positive suggestions in #48...

Now how can we (Fred) begin to turn the common perception around?

How about finding a young energetic celebrity, perhaps a singer, to endorse him and tour with him?

How about having an young, inspiring kick-off speaker to introduce him at each stop?

Perhaps you think these to be worthless ideas so why dont all you flamers come up with better ones that might energize the campaign.


83 posted on 12/18/2007 4:22:42 PM PST by DWar
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To: NormsRevenge

Does that make him the Tennessee Stud??

Pray for W and Our Troops


84 posted on 12/18/2007 4:22:56 PM PST by bray (Let's Bring Christ Back to Christmas)
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To: NormsRevenge
Thompson! Hands Down!

Love that bumper sticker!

85 posted on 12/18/2007 4:25:21 PM PST by cookcounty (Ja-pan Jack Murtha, The ex-Marine who thinks Okinawa is on his Middle East map.)
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To: Honeybunch

I dont know.
I listened to the Laura interview with Fred today as well, and believe I was one of the first on FR to suggest him as a viable candidate.

I would however like Fred to hit some homers in Iowa with someone watching.

I think he is waiting till after the holidays to turn up the heat.


86 posted on 12/18/2007 4:25:52 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: bray
Does that make him the Tennessee Stud??

He's got the nerve and he's got the blood.......

87 posted on 12/18/2007 4:27:18 PM PST by HerrBlucher (He's the coolest thing around, gonna shut HRC down, gonna turn it on, wind it up, blow em out, FDT!)
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To: 22cal

Your friend is exactly right. Explain the fascination with Paris Hilton, Lindsey Lohan and Britney Spears.

Fred is a quality, substantial, reasoned individual. But he’s running for an office for which the voters think it reasonable to ask whether someone prefers diamonds or pearls or whether he wears boxers or briefs.

Who was more substantial and experienced in 1960, Richard Nixon or John F Kennedy. It’s been said over the years that their TV debate in which Kennedy looked young and vigorous and Nixon look haggard and sweating was the tipping point for Kennedy.

Image matters. Deniers serve the cause more poorly than those looking for solutions.


88 posted on 12/18/2007 4:28:53 PM PST by DWar
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To: DWar
I’m not a “supporter”.

I saw that comment after I had alredy posted my response to your original post.

You said then; "He (Thompson) is my second choice after Hunter..."

It still sounds to me like you are a "Hunter supporter," but I retract the die-hard comment, as obviously you are not thinking he can win. Thompson himself is a long shot, but he has my support for as long as he wants it.

89 posted on 12/18/2007 4:30:18 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: Honeybunch
The polls are meaningless.

Your anti-Pollish bigotry is shocking..:)

90 posted on 12/18/2007 4:32:46 PM PST by HerrBlucher (He's the coolest thing around, gonna shut HRC down, gonna turn it on, wind it up, blow em out, FDT!)
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To: mmichaels1970

It’s not enough for a candidate to be right any more. They must be packaged and marketed properly, too. People have to “FEEL” that the candidate is right for them as well as “THINK” it.


91 posted on 12/18/2007 4:32:48 PM PST by DWar
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To: LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot

I have not said lazy. I have not attempted to explain the MSM’s accusation.

I have said that the average voter believes that Fred looks tired, unenthusiastic, and old. I’m not saying this is so. I am saying this is the appearance perceived by the average voter. For Fred to win this perception has to change. If it can’t be changed or if the campaign refuses to change it the more youthful and exciting person will win.


92 posted on 12/18/2007 4:39:10 PM PST by DWar
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To: donnab

I’ve not said he’s lazy. See post #92.

I’m not perpetuating a false image of Fred. I’m talking to folks who believe in him and want him to win not to undecided people who could be influenced to support another candidate.

So as a Fred supporter what ideas do you have to recomend to the campaign that could positively affect his image among average voters?


93 posted on 12/18/2007 4:44:08 PM PST by DWar
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To: papasmurf
Fred's been getting started for how long now?
Look here’s some interesting numbers I found. You have to go all the way back to 1980 to find a second place winner in IOWA who went on to win the nomination. Fred needs to Win to Win.

Republicans
2004- George W. Bush* (unopposed)
2000- George W. Bush* (41%) defeated Steve Forbes (30%), Alan Keyes (14%), Gary Bauer (9%), John McCain (5%) and Orrin Hatch (1%)
1996- Bob Dole (26%) defeated Pat Buchanan (23%), Lamar Alexander (18%), Steve Forbes (10%), Phil Gramm (9%), Alan Keyes (7%), Richard Lugar (4%) and Morry Taylor (1%)
1992- George H. W. Bush (unopposed)
1988- Bob Dole (37%) defeated Pat Robertson (25%), George H. W. Bush* (19%), Jack Kemp (11%) and Pete DuPont (7%)
1984- Ronald Reagan* (unopposed)
1980- George H. W. Bush (32%) defeated Ronald Reagan* (30%), Howard Baker (15%), John Connally (9%), Phil Crane (7%), John B. Anderson (4%) and Bob Dole (2%)
1976- Gerald Ford defeated Ronald Reagan

94 posted on 12/18/2007 4:47:56 PM PST by topfile
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To: Tennessean4Bush

How about dealing with the issue instead of dismissing it because it is not original or instead of demeaning me.

The issue is that Fred needs an image change. What ideas do you have that might accomplish that?

I offered a couple in #48. What do you suggest?


95 posted on 12/18/2007 4:50:52 PM PST by DWar
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To: DWar
You think you’ve got it bad. I’m a Huckabee supporter.
Most FR now-a-days are not interested in a civil discussion.
Wish it was different.
96 posted on 12/18/2007 4:54:04 PM PST by topfile
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To: John Valentine

I admire your loyalty.
I truly hope Fred catches fire. But he gotta DOOO Something to make himself combustible. Something’s gotta change or ...


97 posted on 12/18/2007 4:58:22 PM PST by DWar
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To: DWar
How about dealing with the issue...The issue is that Fred needs an image change.

The context of the article itself "deals with it." Within the first 10 or so comments to the very article that demonstrates concrete action that Fred is doing to "deal with it," you cannot help but hiccup out some mindless drivel you picked up from a snippet you heard or read from you can't remember where. Do we need to light a candle for you to see the sun?

98 posted on 12/18/2007 5:04:28 PM PST by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: topfile

Politics inflame the passions. Passion is an emotional human response not an intellectual one. Good people will say things in the heat of the moment in a way they don’t really mean.

Although I’m not a Huckabee supporter, for the sake of civil discourse I urge you to continue to interact with others with civility, respect and with your intellect even when they do not do likewise.

Good luck, Freeper.


99 posted on 12/18/2007 5:04:56 PM PST by DWar
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To: DWar

“interact with others with civility, respect and with your intellect even when they do not do likewise.”

I will do this inspite of the fact in your last post you called me a flamer...
I talk to people one on one...and continue to spread the word. They in turn talk to someone else and so on. I point out that contrary to what seems to be popular belief ..Fred is anything but uninspiring and I direct them to links where they can witness it for themselves.
As for your suggestions...I dont know if that would work.
I am saddened that we need fluff to sell something that is so important and literally life altering.
In the meantime ...check out this post. Life comes to Iowa.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1941465/posts


100 posted on 12/18/2007 5:14:00 PM PST by donnab (saving liberal brains...one moron at a time.)
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