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Obama: History’s verdict on Bush will ‘not be kind’
The Hill ^ | December 18, 2007 | Klaus Marre

Posted on 12/18/2007 11:50:53 AM PST by mdittmar

Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) on Tuesday blasted President Bush’s foreign policy record, saying that “his judgments will be subject to the harsh light of history, and the verdict will not be kind.”

But Obama also criticized his main opponents for the Democratic nomination for helping start the Iraq war.

“It’s easy for us to lay all of the problems of the world at George Bush’s doorstep,” Obama said in Des Moines, Iowa.

“George Bush did not take us to war alone,” the Illinois senator stated, noting that Congress authorized the use of force.

Obama indicated that his opposition to the war gives him an edge in a general election matchup.

“My opponent won’t be able to say that I ever supported the war in Iraq, or that I don’t support a clear timetable to bring our troops home,” Obama said, taking a swipe at Democratic front-runner Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.). “He won’t be able to say that I voted to use our troops in Iraq to counter Iran, or that I support the Bush-Cheney diplomacy of not talking to leaders we don’t like.”

Obama reiterated his pledge to personally talk to Iran about its choices.

“We need a president who is willing to talk to all nations — friend and foe,” Obama said. “Not talking doesn’t make us look tough, it makes us look arrogant.”

The Illinois senator pledged to listen to all of his advisers and said that there would not be an “ideological or loyalty test” in his administration.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: allhailthekingsson; obamaknowsandseesall; obamawalksonwater; wot
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What will the huckster say,what will hillary say?
1 posted on 12/18/2007 11:50:55 AM PST by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

W’s legacy will be very favorable on his war on terror.


2 posted on 12/18/2007 11:52:05 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: mdittmar

If anyone would be good at “listening” to other nations it would be Ubama.


3 posted on 12/18/2007 11:52:39 AM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: 1Old Pro

So Obambi thinks we’d be better off with Saddam still in power?

I hope someone gets around to asking him that one of these days.


4 posted on 12/18/2007 11:54:31 AM PST by y6162
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To: mdittmar

I disagree, O Great Eared one.

Granted, you and you cronies write and rewrite history, but I disagree.


5 posted on 12/18/2007 11:54:59 AM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: mdittmar; All

Does he read palms too I wonder?


6 posted on 12/18/2007 11:56:08 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triagle of death)
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To: mdittmar
Opinions are like elbows, Sen. Osama, everybody has a couple.

Senator, why has crude oil doubled, our housing market gone from great to poor, and everybody and their brother is on strike after your party took control of the Senate and House?

7 posted on 12/18/2007 11:56:43 AM PST by BlabItGrabIt (Why has gasoline gone up over $1/gal since dims took Congress???)
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To: 1Old Pro
W’s legacy will be very favorable on his war on terror.

No kidding. Six years after 9/11 and not a single successful terrorist attack on American soil. No doubt the terrorists have tried and be thwarted time and again. That's not to say that they won't be successful in the coming year, because they will certainly try to ramp up their efforts in order to embarrass Bush and the Republicans before the election. But, the fact is that he has been overwhelmingly successful in the WOT. I think American people will begin to think about this in Bush's final year and start giving credit where it's due and his approval numbers will be up markedly in 2008.

8 posted on 12/18/2007 11:57:11 AM PST by Azzurri
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To: y6162

Obama may just be a footnote speedbump when the history is written about 2007, in a few years.


9 posted on 12/18/2007 11:57:16 AM PST by sitkaspruce
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To: mdittmar
Obama: History’s verdict on Bush will ‘not be kind’

The verdict of the left is never kind nor even fair to those that oppose its agenda.

10 posted on 12/18/2007 11:57:28 AM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: mdittmar
This is simple... if you think Oprah should be President, then vote for Obama, aka ZERO GRAVITAS.
11 posted on 12/18/2007 11:57:33 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: mdittmar

What a clown Obama-lama-ding dong is...

He has shown his lack of knowledge on anything quite clearly (history included) on his policy positions...well...if anyone can figure out what those are...anyway...

Obama’s a dunce. And he will be taken out with the rest of the trash next year.


12 posted on 12/18/2007 11:58:09 AM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: mdittmar

Obama’s history will be found under the chapter on Dumbasses.


13 posted on 12/18/2007 11:58:29 AM PST by afnamvet (Duncan Hunter in 08)
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To: mdittmar

Same kind of sentiments were said about Ronald Reagan when he was in office.


14 posted on 12/18/2007 11:59:46 AM PST by marvlus
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To: mdittmar
“We need a president who is willing to talk to all nations — friend and foe,” Obama said. “Not talking doesn’t make us look tough, it makes us look arrogant.”

I'm sure Hitler wishes from hell Obama was President when he was a foe of America.

Obama is consistent. Consistently stupid and naive.

15 posted on 12/18/2007 12:00:21 PM PST by A message (Hunter '08)
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To: SoldierDad

I wonder if he could tell me future lottery numbers


16 posted on 12/18/2007 12:00:52 PM PST by sure_fine (• " not one to over kill the thought process " •)
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To: mdittmar

They said the same thing about Harry S. Truman, yet history treated him much kindly.


17 posted on 12/18/2007 12:01:02 PM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: mdittmar

Look carefully.

It really isn’t a jab at Bush.

He only uses Bush to launch an attack on Hillary.

Brilliant, IMHO.


18 posted on 12/18/2007 12:01:24 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: 1Old Pro
“We need a president who is willing to talk to all nations — friend and foe,”

GO CHASE YOURSELF! THEY'VE DONE ALL THE TALKING I CARE TO HEAR


19 posted on 12/18/2007 12:01:54 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: afnamvet

History’s verdict on Obama will be “lightweight that Hillary trampled in landslide to nomination”


20 posted on 12/18/2007 12:01:57 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: sitkaspruce

More like a greasy smear on the path of the 2008 elections.


21 posted on 12/18/2007 12:02:41 PM PST by Hoffer Rand
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To: mdittmar
Dear Mr. Obama: In real life, do we respect or look up to the person in the room who is eager to announce his availability for conversation with everyone in the room? Or do we respect the person who considers his time valuable, and only speaks to those who treat him with dignity?
22 posted on 12/18/2007 12:04:04 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: mdittmar

History’s verdict on Bush will ‘not be kind’

What a clueless pip.

Imagine what it will be when it comes to the dems&anti-war nutjobs&media’s open collusion and support for our own sworn enemies


23 posted on 12/18/2007 12:04:17 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: mdittmar

Who made Obamba a historian? Truth is, the history is just now being written for real regarding Joe McCarthy, now 60 years later. I’ll be sure to pick my history books carefully on President Bush in the year 2067, and make sure I don’t read any authors by the name of Obamba... or Hussein.


24 posted on 12/18/2007 12:04:24 PM PST by C210N
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To: mdittmar

“Obama: History’s verdict on Bush will ‘not be kind’”

That’s wrong, but history will not remember Michael Dukakis and B. Hussein Obama.


25 posted on 12/18/2007 12:05:07 PM PST by RoadTest (" -the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men. -I Cor 24)
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To: 1Old Pro
History’s verdict on Obama will be “lightweight that Hillary trampled in landslide to nomination”Indeed. It remains to be seen if Soros and his fortune out spends Oprah's.
26 posted on 12/18/2007 12:05:16 PM PST by afnamvet (Duncan Hunter in 08)
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To: 1Old Pro
Reagan was hated abroad; he was hated alike by the liberal within the US.

Nonetheless, NO SINGLE PERSON in politics did more to contribute to an end of the Cold War that he. The Germans to proud, to stupid and self absorbed, would never admit it, but their country today stands united because of him.

The movers and shakers are often disliked at the time, may they be Teddy Roosevelt or Ronald Reagan ("Man in the Arena" was not a speech written because of all the positive press Teddy got). But it’s actually the Clinton's who brought us 911, a President that perjures himself and has oral sex in the Oval Office that go down as a farce in history right next to Carter.

27 posted on 12/18/2007 12:05:51 PM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: mdittmar

Obama’s legacy will ...

wait, there won’t be one.


28 posted on 12/18/2007 12:06:06 PM PST by altura (Go, Fred!)
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To: mdittmar
Did I hear "ears"?


29 posted on 12/18/2007 12:07:03 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: y6162

“So Obambi thinks we’d be better off with Saddam still in power?”

That’s a requirement for anyone sucking off of Soros’ tit. Durbin, Ms Clinton, the whole bunch.


30 posted on 12/18/2007 12:07:34 PM PST by Western Phil
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To: mdittmar

All I know is Obama is a dangerously naive lightweight.


31 posted on 12/18/2007 12:07:40 PM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: mdittmar

and BarackObama will be a footnote in history


32 posted on 12/18/2007 12:08:11 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: mdittmar

The state of the Dems is such that this circus clown obama is considered a bright hope for their party.


33 posted on 12/18/2007 12:08:55 PM PST by GregH
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To: mdittmar

For comparison and contrast purposes, it would be nice if someone asked him what he thinks history’s verdict on Castro will be.


34 posted on 12/18/2007 12:09:46 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: mdittmar

Anyone else notice this?

“My opponent won’t be able to say that I ever supported the war in Iraq, or that I don’t support a clear timetable to bring our troops home,” Obama said, taking a swipe at Democratic front-runner Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.). “He won’t be able to say that I voted to use our troops in Iraq to counter Iran, or that I support the Bush-Cheney diplomacy of not talking to leaders we don’t like.”

“My opponent”
“taking a swipe at . . . Hillary Rodham Clinton . . .”
“He won’t be able to say . . .”

“HE” ???


35 posted on 12/18/2007 12:09:46 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: 1Old Pro

Enabling two democracys in the middle east will be massively impactful on the future and world security. Likely it will be the main thing Bush is remembered for.

Democracys do not make war on each other. They do not spread terrorism.


36 posted on 12/18/2007 12:09:49 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: mdittmar

the left is an a55-hat


37 posted on 12/18/2007 12:11:48 PM PST by petro45acp (NO good endeavor survives an excess of "adult supervision" (read bureaucracy)!)
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To: Western Phil; y6162
“So Obambi thinks we’d be better off with Saddam still in power?” He likes Saddamites.
38 posted on 12/18/2007 12:12:04 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Western Phil; y6162
“So Obambi thinks we’d be better off with Saddam still in power?”

He likes Saddamites.

39 posted on 12/18/2007 12:12:14 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: mdittmar

Obama, W has socks older than you, son...........


40 posted on 12/18/2007 12:12:53 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: mdittmar

Well, this is going to sound crazy but I am about ready for Hillary to drop a bomb on this idiot. I am sick and tired of the media orgasm over this dumbo elephant stand-in.


41 posted on 12/18/2007 12:13:24 PM PST by chad_in_georgia
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To: mdittmar

42 posted on 12/18/2007 12:14:57 PM PST by Gritty (Destroying a President is not much of a strategy to win a war, but it's all the Dems have-Wes Pruden)
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To: mdittmar
It will be tough being a footnote of a footnote, Obama.
43 posted on 12/18/2007 12:16:46 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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Once BDS wears its way out of the population at large, W will be remembered favorably. Once the hysteria of the day is over, people, and history, will see that things went DAMN well considering ALL that the country had been through during W's tenure.

I think the last President who was as hated as W, was Lincoln, another one who comes to mind more recently, was Truman.

44 posted on 12/18/2007 12:16:49 PM PST by Paradox (Politics: The art of convincing the populace that your delusions are superior to others.)
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To: mdittmar

If it weren’t for his support of illegals, President Bush would probably be remembered as one of our best Presidents.

The real question is, will history remember who Obama is?


45 posted on 12/18/2007 12:17:45 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: SoldierDad

Its his Magic 8 ball.


46 posted on 12/18/2007 12:19:15 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
“George Bush did not take us to war alone,” the Illinois senator stated, noting that Congress authorized the use of force.

This is not about GWB (Obama's supporters already hate him), it's all about HRC, and trying to paint her with the same brush.

47 posted on 12/18/2007 12:19:35 PM PST by xroadie
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To: RoadTest
but history will not remember Michael Dukakis and B. Hussein Obama.

During the last election when that picture of Kerry in the bunny suit thing came out, a Freeper posted the infamous picture of Dukakis in the tank. A number of young Freepers chimed in and said, "I don't get it - who is that?"

Forgotten indeed! Less than 20 years.

48 posted on 12/18/2007 12:20:42 PM PST by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: mdittmar
Since History is usually written by ivory tower, Liberal, campus-bound intellectuals, no, I suspect it won't be.

My dad had a history book (before it was "civics", before it was scrubbed, before it was gone) that knew that Western Culture was superior to all others, that Christians were usually the moving force behind most good, and that by the time it was written, America had saved the world once and was on the path to do it again, a few times more. I miss those days when we knew we were good and right.

49 posted on 12/18/2007 12:21:56 PM PST by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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To: mdittmar
Obama: History’s verdict on Bush will ‘not be kind’

Of course not, if it is the revisionist history that so many liberals are touting these days.

50 posted on 12/18/2007 12:24:19 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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