How many more will die in 'gun-free' zones before the media start asking why?

Las Vegas Review-Journal ^ | Dec. 16, 2007 | VIN SUPRYNOWICZ

[ExSoldier]

Carrying a "forbidden" weapon on private property isn't necessarily a guaranteed trip to the pokey. Most states regulate such issues as property violations at the local level in the form of a county ordinance.

However for businesses who wish to forbid employees to have a weapon on the premises, well that somehow justifies a state law providing for criminal sanctions.

In my home of Miami-Florida the local ordinance is very loosely orchestrated in favor of the CCW'er. The ordinance reads in part that any person otherwise lawfully carrying a concealed weapon onto private property shall be subjected to the following upon detection by the property owner or his security personnel:

If a person carries a forbidden weapon onto private property and is detected, then he may be asked to leave the property. If that person returns and is still armed, he may be arrested for Trespass After Warning, a misdemeanor. This correctly puts the person holding a valid ccw permit in violation of company policy. When it comes to personal and family defense, that makes it easier, obviously. I have no problems violating anybodys "policy."

Everytime I go to the mall with the wife for whatever shopping duty must be fulfilled, I'm carrying. Sometimes that might be a S&W M642 in a convienent pocket holster or lately it's more likely to be a Sig P226 carried invisibly even under a mere "Polo" style shirt. Check out the website. There are a couple of interesting videos as demonstrations there. I have never suffered the embarrassment of a "detection." I've chatted with LEOs and mall security and neither has given the first hint they saw something amiss in my apparel.

CROSSBREED

[neverdem]

Amen. Charge those pushing victim disarmament laws with "accessory to murder" and "deprivation of civil rights under color of law"(USC Title 18, 241/242).

Thanks for the citations. Merry Christmas!

§ 241. Conspiracy against rights

§ 242. Deprivation of rights under color of law

Definitely worth a gander!

[Uri’el-2012]

How many more will die in 'gun-free' zones before the media start asking why?

The Drive-by media fails to see the correlation
of mass murders with their use of SSRIs.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks neverdem.

[TigersEye]

Rather, the first question here is whether our government agencies are making it fully clear to the managers of buildings otherwise open to the public -- ... -- that they will not be shielded from the financial repercussions should employees or customers die under circumstances where they could otherwise have defended themselves and others with their own firearms.

The problem with that is that employees and customers enter those properties by their own free will. The answer is to decline to work or shop in gun free zones. Don't volunteer to be a victim.

[El Gato]

Not with a handgun. Not even with a real assault rifle. Typical ignorance and overstatement by the press.

Well, a little poetic license. Vin is not ignorant of firearms. The shooter did go down, just not through pure kinetic energy transfer, which I think is how you are reading "blown to the ground".

[PROCON]

Wow, glad I live in a relatively conservative, although Blue State part of the Country.

I will continue to carry anywhere I go, except for airports, Federal bulidings, etc.

And I hope I never have to use it, but as an old Boy Scout, be prepared!

Merry Christmas!!

[GOPJ]

Thanks for the ping.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[ExSoldier]

not through pure kinetic energy transfer, which I think is how you are reading "blown to the ground".

That was exactly how I read the piece. We've all seen the Hollywood mythology of guys hit with the venerable 44 magnum and flipped to the rear as if hit by an 18 wheeler truck. Just ain't so. Right?

[El Gato]

Just ain't so. Right?

Right, unless by muscle spasm, certainly not by the momentum of the bullet. Otherwise it would also knock the shooter back.

Course the .44 magnum will blow your head clean off. Well, at least explode it like a ripe melon, under the right conditions of course. :) It's not an experiment I intend to perform.