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Orono (Maine) man upset about boy using girls' restroom
Bangor Daily News ^ | ednesday, December 19, 2007 | Aimee Dolloff

Posted on 12/19/2007 6:33:24 AM PST by wbill

ORONO - The fight isn’t over for an Orono man who is upset about the actions of a student in his grandson’s class.

Paul Melanson addressed the school committee Tuesday regarding his frustration over a male student in his grandson’s fifth-grade class at Asa Adams Elementary School who was being allowed to use the girls restroom because he allegedly wants to change genders.

Melanson is the guardian for his grandson and is upset over the situation, but said at least the committee recognized Tuesday that the situation had occurred rather than denying it as school officials previously had done.

"At this kid’s request, he’s being treated like a little girl," Melanson said when addressing the committee.

Committee Chairman Robert Swindlehurst limited Melanson’s comments to about three minutes in order to protect the identity of the student.

During his presentation to the panel, Melanson said that in October, he called Superintendent Kelly Clenchy, concerned with what his grandson had told him about the other student. Clenchy denied the situation was happening, Melanson said.

Melanson then gave his grandson permission to follow the boy into the girls restroom and use the facilities. He did so on Oct. 4 and was taken to the principal’s office.

Melanson was called and told that if his grandson continued with his behavior, "he would be having a bad year," Melanson said.

Orono police later visited the grandfather’s house and Melanson said they told him not to use his grandson as a pawn in his fight.

"The Orono School Department is complying with all laws," Swindlehurst said. He added that "the situation is not occurring at this time."

But when Melanson asked which restroom the student now was using, Swindlehurst said he wouldn’t discuss the matter.

The individual is using the appropriate bathroom," Swindlehurst said. He then thanked Melanson for his comments.

"My attorney will follow up," Melanson said before leaving the podium.

After the meeting, Melanson said his grandson told him the student now is using a restroom designated for teachers. Melanson said his next step would be to give his grandson permission to use that restroom, even if it means the child might be expelled.

He said that the same anti-discrimination laws that are likely to be used to justify the other boy’s use of certain restrooms also could be used to justify his grandson’s use of the same restroom.

"I’m going to keep fighting it," Melanson said. "It’s going to continue. I want the law straightened out."

Melanson is supported in his fight by the Maine Christian Civic League, which has published two stories on the issue on its Web site, www.cclmaine.org, and by the league’s attorney, Steve Whiting of Portland.

League Executive Director Michael Heath was unable to attend the meeting, but another representative from the organization brought to the meeting Heath’s written comments supporting Melanson.

"Support for the privacy of the student and family is leading public officials, including the police, to make some profound errors," Heath said in the letter. "The reign of tyrannical political correctness is making us mad."


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Good for this guy, in standing up to more Gov't school idiocy.

As to the overall situation, it's hard to know where to *start* to comment.

1 posted on 12/19/2007 6:33:26 AM PST by wbill
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To: wbill

because he allegedly wants to change genders.


Who are the people encouraging this kid?


2 posted on 12/19/2007 6:35:14 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: wbill

Why on earth is this school system permitting a 5th GRADER to dictate to them what his sexuality will be?


3 posted on 12/19/2007 6:36:29 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: PeterPrinciple
Melanson was called and told that if his grandson continued with his behavior, "he would be having a bad year," Melanson said

That was the comment that stood out for me. Sounds like Mafia goons are running the administration. "Oh, you can say what you like, it just sure would be a shame if you got your leg broke..."

4 posted on 12/19/2007 6:37:34 AM PST by wbill
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To: wbill
The fifth grade boy needs counseling. Anyone who helps him persist in the mental illness that surgical castration is a good move for his future happiness should be arrested for child abuse.

They are leading him down a very dark path and ruining his chance for anything like a normal life.

5 posted on 12/19/2007 6:38:30 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: wbill
"he would be having a bad year," Melanson said

I'd kindly remind anyone that said that to me that if another threat like that is forthcoming, his family is going to be having a bad year.

6 posted on 12/19/2007 6:41:42 AM PST by Malsua
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To: wbill
Orono police later visited the grandfather’s house and Melanson said they told him not to use his grandson as a pawn in his fight.

I agree with the point, if not with using the police to present it.

Why aren't the parents of girls up in arms?

7 posted on 12/19/2007 6:41:52 AM PST by Tax-chick ("The keys to life are running and reading." ~ Will Smith)
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To: wbill
How old is 5th grade?
This twerp needs some serious guidance and obviously the school hasn't provided it and will not.PC gone wild...
8 posted on 12/19/2007 6:42:05 AM PST by t1b8zs
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5th grade

scotty, for the love of God, beam me up.

9 posted on 12/19/2007 6:43:08 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (chaos is an illusion.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

There’s no intelligent life on this planet.


10 posted on 12/19/2007 6:44:17 AM PST by Tax-chick ("The keys to life are running and reading." ~ Will Smith)
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To: t1b8zs

5th graders are 10 or 11 years old.


11 posted on 12/19/2007 6:44:54 AM PST by Tax-chick ("The keys to life are running and reading." ~ Will Smith)
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To: t1b8zs

About 10 years old.


12 posted on 12/19/2007 6:45:44 AM PST by Vor Lady (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop. For John McDonald, RIP 12/5/07)
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To: t1b8zs

some one needs to investigate this kids Hard-Drive as he is getting these un-healty notions some where...


13 posted on 12/19/2007 6:45:51 AM PST by vavavah
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To: Tax-chick

are ones nuts even fully developed at that age,I know his brain is not?


14 posted on 12/19/2007 6:47:16 AM PST by vavavah
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To: wbill
Didn't this happen on South Park?

Coulda' sworn.

15 posted on 12/19/2007 6:50:16 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Tax-chick

Girls are different silly.


16 posted on 12/19/2007 6:52:14 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: wbill

I love how the liberals in charge of reporting this story completely misrepresent the Grandfather in their caption under his picture:

“Paul Melanson, Orono resident and grandfather of fifth grade middle school student who is upset about a transgender student in his grandson’s class.”

1 - The kid is not “transgender”. He’s confused, and most likely being subjected to some sort of abuse in order to make him think that he is a girl. The article refers to him as “alleged”, but the caption doesn’t.

2 - He’s not upset about the student, he’s upset that the student is being allowed to use the girl’s bathroom. He’s upset that the school system is encouraging perversion, and allowing a boy to behave as if he’s a girl. And he’s upset about the double-standard being applied, where “anti-discrimination” policies are being unevenly used.

Love how they twist it (as well as use a terrible picture of the grandfather) to apparently suit their own “He’s a homophobe!” agenda.


17 posted on 12/19/2007 6:52:15 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow (Classic Blunder #1 - "Never get involved in a land war in Asia.")
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To: muawiyah

Heavens to mergatroid......the possible link!


18 posted on 12/19/2007 6:53:22 AM PST by t1b8zs
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To: PeterPrinciple
Just a small point on this Kelly Clenchy, it sounds like she's been cruising and has her target in sight. The little boy is already going to the staff restroom.

Lord only knows what might happen in there.

19 posted on 12/19/2007 6:54:44 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: wbill
This state is a lost cause. To paraphrase bill clinton we had the worst economy in 50 years and our left wing governor won by ten points last time, 60% of the vote went to left wing candidates. We’ve got two rino senators that I think will switch parties or become independents soon. What a disaster this state is from it’s economy and social valves.
20 posted on 12/19/2007 6:56:36 AM PST by mainerforglobalwarming
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To: wbill

what will the school board say should some ‘confused’ boy goes into the girl’s restroom and rapes a girl?

or some ‘confused’ girl go into the boy’s restroom and come out pregnant?

how stupid is stupid? stay tuned...


21 posted on 12/19/2007 7:00:29 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: mainerforglobalwarming
Like your name. Talked to my relatives in Western Maine and they said they've gotten several feet of global warming already, and it's not even officially winter yet.

Maine is no longer the state I grew up in. The natives (like me) are leaving in droves and being replaced by libs from Mass, CT, and NY. And, stories like this are the result.

22 posted on 12/19/2007 7:01:59 AM PST by wbill
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To: camle
what will the school board say should some ‘confused’ boy goes into the girl’s restroom and rapes a girl? ...that's different. Unless the boy is a minority, in which case we must be respectful of the cultural differences.

or some ‘confused’ girl go into the boy’s restroom and come out pregnant? ...That'll never be found out about, as the school nurse can take her out to get an abortion without her parents' knowledge, and no one will be the wiser.

23 posted on 12/19/2007 7:06:36 AM PST by wbill
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To: camle

PS, do I need a /sarcasm tag?


24 posted on 12/19/2007 7:07:24 AM PST by wbill
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To: PeterPrinciple

Who are the people encouraging this kid?

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Perhaps he is being mentored by some perv teacher who has designs on him....


25 posted on 12/19/2007 7:09:13 AM PST by Bigg Red (Duncan Hunter in 2008!)
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To: vavavah

As I said to another poster here, perhaps the student is being mentored by some perv teacher who has designs on him....


26 posted on 12/19/2007 7:10:33 AM PST by Bigg Red (Duncan Hunter in 2008!)
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To: wbill

A person who truly cared about this mixed up 5th grader would make them understand that a boy is a boy, and a girl is a girl. The homosexual mafia is a disgusting thing.


27 posted on 12/19/2007 7:12:54 AM PST by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: wbill

If I were in school now, I’d request to use the girl’s locker room and showers
(Afterall, I’m considering changing my gender)


28 posted on 12/19/2007 7:13:01 AM PST by wilco200
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To: wbill
Paul Melanson addressed the school committee Tuesday regarding his frustration over a male student in his grandson’s fifth-grade class at Asa Adams Elementary School who was being allowed to use the girls restroom because he allegedly wants to change genders.

This is so insane that I shouldn't laugh. But it's hard not to. God help these kids.

29 posted on 12/19/2007 7:14:01 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: wbill

Time for three restrooms in each school—Boys, Girls, and Confused.


30 posted on 12/19/2007 7:19:12 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (CNN: Full of plants from the DNC Plant-ation.)
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If I were in school now, I’d request to use the girl’s locker room and showers (Afterall, I’m considering changing my gender)

A thought like that crossed my mind, too.

At best, this poor boy is a mixedup kid who's in need of some serious counselling to get his head on straight. And, it sounds like the school is enabling this little fantasy of his.

At worst, the kid is a deviant (or more likely, a curious 11 year old boy) that gets his jollies by going in the girls' bathroom. And, it sounds like the school is enabling this little fantasy of his.

Either way, the school is at fault and likely is desperately wishing that Mr. Melanson would just go away. Thus, the hit piece in the paper (note the dismissive tone of the school admin's quotes).

That's why I say, kudos to Mr. Melanson for standing up and saying that the emporer has no clothes.

31 posted on 12/19/2007 7:22:57 AM PST by wbill
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To: wbill

teh sarcasm is understood. what a bunch of maroons!


32 posted on 12/19/2007 7:24:13 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

My name is Sleep and Eat and I have Ethnic Identity Disorder. I will come to work in Black Face and demand to use the “Colored Only” rest room. I fully expect the support of my employer over the indignations of my African-American coworkers.

It’s only a matter of time............


33 posted on 12/19/2007 7:24:50 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: wbill

The 5th grader’s parents are the real idiots here.

“After the meeting, Melanson said his grandson told him the student now is using a restroom designated for teachers. Melanson said his next step would be to give his grandson permission to use that restroom, even if it means the child might be expelled.”

Now grandpa’s being an idiot, unless he’s preparing to homeschool.


34 posted on 12/19/2007 7:25:34 AM PST by gracesdad
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To: muawiyah
Didn't this happen on South Park?

I think it was the one where Randy was upset that there was no bathroom for dolphins after he underwent a "dolphinoplasty"! I loved that episode.

I also seem to remember "Mrs" Garrison entering a ladies restroom a time or two.

35 posted on 12/19/2007 7:26:27 AM PST by marinamuffy ("..pacifism ensures that cruelty will prevail on earth." - Dennis Prager/ www.gohunter08.com)
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To: wbill

Holy Cow kid! The girl’s bathtroom is where cooties come from.


36 posted on 12/19/2007 7:28:23 AM PST by fungoking
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To: wbill

I must admit, if the whole enforced perversion thing keeps going the direction that it’s going, I’m looking for another country.

On this issue in particular, I’m not proud of the USA any more.


37 posted on 12/19/2007 7:36:26 AM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: PeterPrinciple

Who are the people encouraging the kid? Probably mom and mom.


38 posted on 12/19/2007 7:51:32 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: wbill
I’m curious as to what the girls & their parents think about a boy in their restrooms. Seems to me that reasonable people would be very upset. Must not be any muslim girls at that school, or the principal would be hamburger by now.

Next time, another child may claim to be bisexual. Should he/she be allowed to use both the boys & girls restrooms? How about PE class or team sports? Can he/she dress out in either locker room, then shower wherever he/she wishes? If this had been the rule when I was in school many years ago, many of the boys would have claimed to be bisexual. Today, I suspect ALL of the boys would claim bisexuality, as would many of the girls.

The only real solution, short of shaming the perverts back into the closet, is to change the signs on the restrooms. One should have a picture of a penis, & the other should have a picture of a vagina - the school’s problem is solved. As for the boy, if he wants to use the vagina room, he’ll need some surgery.

39 posted on 12/19/2007 8:01:30 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: wbill

OMG!! Maine??? Where is COMMON SENSE these days??????


40 posted on 12/19/2007 8:03:41 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: wbill

One more thought.

It’s hard enough to do your “business” in a smelly, filthy, restroom, surrounded by grunting men. It would be nearly impossible for me if that were WOMEN on either side of me! The principal needs to start using the faculty women’s restroom for a while, so he/she/it can fully appreciate the situation.


41 posted on 12/19/2007 8:08:21 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: vavavah

I’m sure I don’t know. Once the boys are out of diapers, they’re responsible for their own hygeine until they get married.


42 posted on 12/19/2007 8:28:07 AM PST by Tax-chick ("The keys to life are running and reading." ~ Will Smith)
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To: muawiyah; wbill

I think you two are on to something. I would not be at all surprised to find that one or more adults is either grooming or already abusing the boy.


43 posted on 12/19/2007 8:29:21 AM PST by Tax-chick ("The keys to life are running and reading." ~ Will Smith)
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To: wbill

That is freakin’ outrageous. Honestly, this is so far crazy it’s hard to believe it’s happening. We either need to disban public schools or lose the country, period.


44 posted on 12/19/2007 8:30:53 AM PST by Scythian
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To: PeterPrinciple

“Who are the people encouraging this kid?”

Mom wanted a little girl instead of a boy?


45 posted on 12/19/2007 8:34:21 AM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: mainerforglobalwarming

Sounds like Maine is a carbon copy of Michigan.


46 posted on 12/19/2007 8:42:56 AM PST by MichiganCheese (Vote for the liar, they promise you more of other people's stuff.)
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To: wbill

Maybe the youngster is a hermaphrodite (see FR Keyword)

“It’s the first question new parents hear: girl or boy? But hundreds of babies are born each year where the gender isn’t clear. Prompt surgery to assign one was once the norm.

Mommy, Am I A Boy Or A Girl CBS News 2-18-05
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1346318/posts

“The issue is “intersex,” the name for numerous conditions that result in roughly one in 4,000 babies born with both male and female traits.

New guidelines for treating ‘intersex’ babies AP 2-18-05
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1346385/posts


47 posted on 12/19/2007 9:09:37 AM PST by deks
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To: wbill; armymarinedad

Hey over here.


48 posted on 12/19/2007 11:28:08 AM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: wbill
You know, I believe that the most important job of a state, a county is to make sure that all the roads and bridges are safe, and when it snows that the ground is bare by 6am. The job of the state should be to make sure that all the business owners and workers that provide the revenue for the state can get to work. I gripe today, because the roads area a mess. Yet the welfare recipients in this state never miss a check.
49 posted on 12/20/2007 8:24:18 AM PST by mainerforglobalwarming
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To: MichiganCheese

How are your roads today? Here in lewiston-Auburn they are a mess. Where are my tax dollars at work? They’re probably just going to a welfare recepient that doesn’t have a job and doesn’t have to travel to work.


50 posted on 12/20/2007 8:28:19 AM PST by mainerforglobalwarming
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