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Monkeys and college students as good at mental maths (monkeys named "Boxer" and "Feinstein")
Reuters via Yahoo ^ | 12-18-07 | Julie Steenhuysen

Posted on 12/19/2007 3:14:04 PM PST by atomic conspiracy

CHICAGO (Reuters) - Monkeys performed about as well as college students at mental addition, U.S. researchers said on Monday in a finding that suggests nonverbal math skills are not unique to humans.

The research from Duke University follows the finding by Japanese researchers earlier this month that young chimpanzees performed better than human adults at a memory game.

Prior studies have found non-human primates can match numbers of objects, compare numbers and choose the larger number of two sets of objects.

"This is the first study that looked at whether or not they could make explicit decisions that were based on mathematical types of calculations," said Jessica Cantlon, a cognitive neuroscience researcher at Duke, whose work appeared in the Public Library of Science journal PLoS Biology (www.plosbiology.org).

"It shows when you take language away from a human, they end up looking just like monkeys in terms of their performance," Cantlon said in a telephone interview.

Her study pitted the monkey math team of Boxer and Feinstein -- two female macaque monkeys named for U.S. senators Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein of California -- with 14 Duke University students.

"We had them do math on the fly," Cantlon said.

The task was to mentally add two sets of dots that were briefly flashed on a computer screen. The teams were asked to pick the correct answer from two choices on a different screen.

The humans were not allowed to count or verbalize as they worked, and they were told to answer as quickly as possible. Both monkeys and humans typically answered within 1 second.

And both groups fared about the same.

Cantlon said the study was not designed to show up Duke University students. "I think of this more as using non-human primates as a tool for discovering where the sophisticated human mind comes from," she said.

The researchers said the findings shed light on the shared mathematical abilities in humans and non-human primates and shows the importance of language -- which allows for counting and more advanced calculations -- in the evolution of math in humans.

"I don't think language is the only thing that differentiates humans from non-human primates, but in terms of math tasks, it is probably the big one," she said.

As for the teams, both were paid. Boxer and Feinstein got their favourite reward: a sip of Kool-Aid soft drink. As for the students, they got $10 (5 pounds) each -- enough for a beer or two.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: duke; math; monkey; simian; smart
The names are obviously satirical, everyone knows that Dems can't do math ("free" health care, etc.).

Boxer and Feinstein did, however, ape their human counterparts by drinking the Kool-Aid.

1 posted on 12/19/2007 3:14:05 PM PST by atomic conspiracy
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To: atomic conspiracy

What they don’t tell you is that the chimps were given a banana for each correct answer, and the students were each given a can of beer. Pretty soon the students’ responses began to go awry.


2 posted on 12/19/2007 3:19:30 PM PST by hellbender
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To: atomic conspiracy

The naming of the monkeys surely will be followed by a vilent response from PETA (Pelosi Eats Toasted Animals)..


3 posted on 12/19/2007 3:20:45 PM PST by tracer
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To: atomic conspiracy
How appropriate.

Barbara Boxer couldn't find her ass with both hands and a hunting dog.

4 posted on 12/19/2007 3:26:17 PM PST by Lizavetta ( Politicians: When they're speaking, they're lying - when they're not speaking, they're stealing.)
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To: atomic conspiracy

Monkeys as good as American college students at mental math...


5 posted on 12/19/2007 3:28:11 PM PST by null and void (Nully, you think of the oddest things. - sweetliberty)
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To: atomic conspiracy
Boxer and Feinstein got their favourite reward: a sip of Kool-Aid soft drink

Someone's got a sense of humor...

6 posted on 12/19/2007 4:03:40 PM PST by varyouga ("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
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To: atomic conspiracy

Monkeys hit the wall earlier. I was average at best with mental math until middle age when I figured out how to round to solve and use reason and intuition to arrive at the correct answer faster. When I was younger I could only do the rudimentary stuff. Experience counts for some I suspect.


7 posted on 12/19/2007 4:15:10 PM PST by kinghorse
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Her study pitted the monkey math team of Boxer and Feinstein

Wow, that's funny as hell

8 posted on 12/19/2007 4:17:17 PM PST by Popman
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