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Why Medical Authorities Cannot be Trusted on Gardasil HPV Vaccine
LifeSiteNews ^ | 12/19/07 | Gwen Landolt

Posted on 12/19/2007 4:02:50 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: Panzerfaust

There is a HUGE difference between the means of contracting polio and contracting HPV.

If you don’t understand the difference, I feel sorry for you.


21 posted on 12/19/2007 7:10:11 PM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: wagglebee

I think they ought to give it to males, too.

After all, who are the main transmitters of HPV? I don’t think women are catching it from other women.

Besides, even if a woman remains chaste until marriage, she can catch HPV from her husband, if he is more “experienced” than she.


22 posted on 12/19/2007 7:32:25 PM PST by Amelia
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Seems that vaccinating only half the population is the very thing the mandatory vaccination advocates are against. They complain that the unvaccinated part benefits from the herd immunity and they aren’t taking their share of the responsibility. So people who want to opt out to avoid any potential side-effects are strongly condemned for being irresponsible.

The vaccine crowd acts as if that’s an immoral thing to do, ride the benefit of herd immunity without taking the risks of the vaccine yourself. But that’s the very thing that’s being promoted here with only females being required to get the vaccine. Granted only females get cervical cancer, but since the vaccine targets the VIRUS that is implicated in the cancer, then it’s hypocritical for only females to get the vaccine and take all the risks of any side effects that vaccine may produce when males transmit the virus.


23 posted on 12/19/2007 8:16:10 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Panzerfaust
Was your particular gift horse gored?
LOL!
Well, better you, than my child, and everyone else.

“The long-term consequences of Gardasil are not known”

What part of the above statement of fact is unclear to you?
How many of your own daughters have undergone the vaccination schedules?
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24 posted on 12/19/2007 9:07:53 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: metmom; Gabz
I just can’t see that a bunch of non-medically trained politicians who can’t even oversee that the DMV or post office is run right, is qualified to make personal medical decisions for me.

Worth repeating, so I have :-).

Note to government: I am more qualified to make decisions about my children's medical care, education, diet, and housing than you are. I know their names!

25 posted on 12/20/2007 3:44:56 AM PST by Tax-chick ("The keys to life are running and reading." ~ Will Smith)
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To: Tax-chick; metmom

OUCH........

But absolutely right on!!!!!


26 posted on 12/20/2007 5:26:34 AM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Gabz

Even if I can’t recall their birthdates right off ...

I cribbed the line from Senator Phil Gramm. The story goes that he told a bureaucrat in a Federal child care program that parents were the best people to rear their children, since they loved their children most. The bureaucrat said, “I love your children as much as you do, Senator!” and Gramm responded, “Oh, I’m so glad to hear that! Now, what are their names?”


27 posted on 12/20/2007 5:30:15 AM PST by Tax-chick ("The keys to life are running and reading." ~ Will Smith)
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To: Tax-chick

LOL! I hadn’t heard that story before.


28 posted on 12/20/2007 5:35:45 AM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Gabz

Senator Gramm was famous for his wit. I think Emmett Tyrell was the one who said, “Phil Gramm is the smartest man in the United States Senate, and he’ll make sure you know it!”


29 posted on 12/20/2007 6:16:25 AM PST by Tax-chick ("The keys to life are running and reading." ~ Will Smith)
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To: metmom
Granted only females get cervical cancer, but since the vaccine targets the VIRUS that is implicated in the cancer, then it’s hypocritical for only females to get the vaccine and take all the risks of any side effects that vaccine may produce when males transmit the virus.

Exactly! Vaccinating everyone would be far more effective, if vaccinating is indeed effective.

30 posted on 12/20/2007 3:24:15 PM PST by Amelia
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To: Gabz
So how huge is the difference? If we can prevent a communicable disease with a vaccine that provides an acceptable risk/benefit ratio, should we not do it? Oh, sorry, I forgot that no Freeper's little angelic kids have unprotected sex. Nor will they ever marry someone who had unprotected sex.

If HPV can cause cervical cancer, I'd mandate a vaccine against it long before the already-required vaccines for nuisance diseases like chicken pox or the measles, which are rarely fatal.

The original post I responded to was so ludicrous in its paranoia, I thought my sarcasm would be evident. Next time I'll add the /sarc tag.l

31 posted on 12/28/2007 3:50:07 PM PST by Panzerfaust
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To: sarasmom
Don't worry, everyone in my family has been vaccinated against all diseases for which my doctor recommended a vaccine. You see, I lack the paranoia that many people exhibit, particularly around vaccines.

As a parallel example, consider that the long term effects of statins are unknown. They were only invented recently (late 1990's) and yet are the most widely prescribed drugs, with a proven ability to reduce death from CV disease.

Do some people encounter serious or fatal adverse events from them? Yes. Is it worth the risk? Apparently millions of peole think so. You balance risk/reward every time you get in your car to drive to work, risking a car accident to obtain a salary. The ride to the doctor's office to get the Gardisil vaccine is the most dangerous part of the process.

You can fail to vaccinate your daughter and someday maybe she'll become infected with HPV. If she's lucky, she won't develop cervical cancer. Then maybe she'll transmit HPV to someone's son, who will pass it on to someone else's daughter, who will then die from cervical cancer.

32 posted on 12/28/2007 4:02:57 PM PST by Panzerfaust
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To: Panzerfaust
If we can prevent a communicable disease with a vaccine that provides an acceptable risk/benefit ratio, should we not do it?

I absolutely agree it should be done. However, in the case of this particular vaccine they are seeking to mandate it for females who are far below the age of those on whom it has already been tested and without knowlege of any possible long term side effects. Thus there is no known risk/benefit ratio for the age range of the mandates.

The majority of the opposition I have seen here to the mandates is because of the age, not against the vaccine itself. The testing of these drugs were not done on pre-pubescent girls, yet that is the age these mandates are calling for.

My opposition to the mandates for these vaccines are based entirely on scientific reasons, and not morality. Talk to me about this vaccine when my 9 year old is 15 and there have been more studies done on the side effects.

33 posted on 12/28/2007 6:39:17 PM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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