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Woman abandons home to escape public schools
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | December 20, 2007 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 12/20/2007 3:33:41 AM PST by Man50D

A Utah woman who was ordered by a juvenile court judge to enroll her children in public school or lose custody of them has abandoned her home, furniture and other possessions to escape the order.

Denise Mafi, a nine-year veteran of homeschooling, has confirmed to WND she and her children packed up their essentials – clothes and homeschool materials – and fled Utah over the weekend, spending more than 50 hours on a bus trip to another undisclosed part of the country.

There she has obtained an empty home, and is spending the Christmas break trying to find beds for her children and herself, and after the New Year, will involve the children in a local homeschooling process.

"We're shampooing carpets right now. We have no furniture. We have no beds," she said. "But my kids are not going to public school. They are not going where Jesus isn't welcome."

Her home, furniture and other possessions left behind in Utah? "I'm not going back unless the judge removes the threat of arrest," she said. "I'll fight for the cause but I'm not going to be a martyr."

The case erupted for Mafi because of an apparent paperwork glitch that could very well be the fault of her local school district. Now Utah home school officials say they have asked the state Legislature to review actions by the judge, whose office has declined comment to WND.

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KEYWORDS: badjudge; christian; homeschooling; publikskoolz; utah
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1 posted on 12/20/2007 3:33:44 AM PST by Man50D
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To: Man50D

Judges Gone Wild


2 posted on 12/20/2007 3:36:52 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Man50D; holdonnow
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She has reported, and her recollection of events has been confirmed by attorneys, that (Judge) Johansen told her homeschooling fails 100 percent of the time and he would not allow it.

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Man in black is a big dope!

3 posted on 12/20/2007 3:39:22 AM PST by don-o (Do the RIGHT thing. Become a monthly donor. End Freepathons forever)
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To: Man50D

Our Gestapo wear black robes.


4 posted on 12/20/2007 3:40:38 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Man50D

Where is the children’s father?


5 posted on 12/20/2007 3:41:44 AM PST by Tax-chick ("The keys to life are running and reading." ~ Will Smith)
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To: Man50D

“””So when she went to court with her juvenile son to have the charges dismissed (under a case held in abeyance procedure) stemming from a clash among children, she suddenly was presented with four counts against her for failing to comply with the state’s compulsory education requirement.”””

Sorry, but when juvenile deliquents get brought before a judge in juvenile court the first thing the judge does is look at their school attendance record (cause surprise surprise, they see a link between high absentee rate and deliquency).

So he finds they are “homeschooled” and the District can’t produce an affidavit from mom that states what her curriculum for the school year will be. So give them your copy mom.

There is a whole heck of a lot more to this story than what WND is spinning it as here. I think it should be noted that her oldest was in juvenile court, to which the judge ordered him to school. Mom instead took the kids and fleed. This isn’t about homeschooling anymore. Her son is going to be taken away, and could face juvenile detention.

What a mess.


6 posted on 12/20/2007 3:44:00 AM PST by Lovebloggers
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To: Man50D

This is an idea that anyone who lives in New Jersey has at least considered briefly. Best of luck to her and her kids.


7 posted on 12/20/2007 3:44:53 AM PST by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: don-o

This judge is a juvenile court judge, so in his experience he could very well be speaking the truth (being that the cohort of homeschooled children he sees are the ones who have broken the law).


8 posted on 12/20/2007 3:46:25 AM PST by Lovebloggers
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To: Man50D
IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN.


9 posted on 12/20/2007 3:51:51 AM PST by Leisler (RNC, RINO National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: samtheman

If it weren’t for the fact that the public schools are so wretched, I would say that some incompetent homeschoolers should be ordered to send their kids to public schools. But as it is, no matter how bad the homeschool mom or dad, complaints by public education officials at best rise to the level of the pot calling the kettle black.


10 posted on 12/20/2007 3:53:35 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Lovebloggers

Then his words should have been “In my experience.....homeschooling fails 100 percent of the time and he would not allow it.<<

This man has no idea how tremendously uninformed and outright ridiculous he sounds.

I agree, there is more to this case but lets face it, the judge gave the fodder they needed to spin it this way.


11 posted on 12/20/2007 3:53:57 AM PST by netmilsmom (Financing James Marsden's kid's college fund, 1 ticket, 1 DVD at a time.)
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To: Lovebloggers
That is no excuse for such an ignorant comment by the judge; if indeed it is accurate.

The Heisman trophy winner (college football) was home schooled, btw

12 posted on 12/20/2007 3:54:54 AM PST by don-o (Do the RIGHT thing. Become a monthly donor. End Freepathons forever)
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To: Lovebloggers

I support homeschooling (my own kids had it)), but there is a small subset of hoomeschoolers who are really “can’t be bothereds” or ‘ “I’ll mistreat my kids any way I want’s”

They mess it up for the rest of us.


13 posted on 12/20/2007 3:55:02 AM PST by From many - one.
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To: Lovebloggers
"So he finds they are “homeschooled” and the District can’t produce an affidavit from mom that states what her curriculum for the school year will be. So give them your copy mom."

Most homeschool programs are accepted if you can show "progress" .... if last year you learned common monomials .. amd this year you intend to teach Johnnie common binomials ... THAT'S progress .. and the curriculum is accepted.

We were evaluated by a (usually) church lady, sympathetic to homeschooling, and accredited by the gummint school system, every year and there was never a problem.

14 posted on 12/20/2007 3:57:52 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Lovebloggers
"There is a whole heck of a lot more to this story than what WND is spinning it as here. I think it should be noted that her oldest was in juvenile court, to which the judge ordered him to school."

That's a nice little tidbit that somehow got left out of the story. It isn't quite the same story with this in it.

15 posted on 12/20/2007 3:58:57 AM PST by DaGman
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To: DaGman
I thought a judge was to issue punishment. Ordered to public school as a punishment?

Hmmmmmmm

16 posted on 12/20/2007 4:05:02 AM PST by don-o (Do the RIGHT thing. Become a monthly donor. End Freepathons forever)
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To: Man50D

A “nine-year veteran of homeschooling”? And, this is the first substantive issue with one of the children?
Does Utah have testing requirements that this woman’s children must meet, like kids in other schooling environments? Standardized tests at grade level? If so, how did these youngsters do on the tests? That should represent evidence in contrast to the judge’s ridiculous statement(s).
Also, if she has been at this for nine years, it would seem reasonable that she would know what’s required in re state mandated reports and plans. She has been engaged with two home schooling organizations (at least since this issue has come up), so she has some resources available.

It seems to me that there is much more to this story than we are seeing...


17 posted on 12/20/2007 4:05:22 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion.)
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To: don-o

He must have missed the Heisman Trophy presentation!


18 posted on 12/20/2007 4:13:43 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: don-o
"(Judge) Johansen told her homeschooling fails 100 percent of the time"

One of my sons Friends is home schooled and is now taking courses at a local College at the age of 15.

19 posted on 12/20/2007 4:14:52 AM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: All

Five of my nieces and nephews are homeschooled....and they are way ahead of their grade counterparts at any public or private school.

I should note, that, they are taught by college-educated parents....although many of their fellow HS parents do quite well w their kids without any college.

One of my nieces decided to try a public high school for the start of her senior season. It drove her nuts....they were way behind on subject matter in advanced classes (this was a HS in a more-affluent area of Orlando)...and couldnt find her a desk to sit at in some of the classes. Needless to say, she returned to homeschool.

I am sure there are some homeschoolers who are substandard...but overall homeschool kids are way ahead of the public and private school kids.

Oh, and someone beat me to it already....the recent Heisman winner was homeschooled


20 posted on 12/20/2007 4:15:23 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Mike Huckabee values illegals, criminals, and terrorists...Thanks "Values Voters")
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To: Man50D

I’m still not buying all this was over a misplaced piece of paper. There’s more to the story.


21 posted on 12/20/2007 4:20:38 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: don-o
that (Judge) Johansen told her homeschooling fails 100 percent of the time and he would not allow it.

Really, Judge? So the lady down the road from me who home schooled her boys, one of which just got accepted at MIT on a full academic scholarship, is a failure? Interesting......

22 posted on 12/20/2007 4:30:35 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Debates? Those weren't no stinkin' debates!)
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To: PubliusMM

“It seems to me that there is much more to this story than we are seeing...”

Agreed. I’ve searched and found everything is either reference to WND, or Bio of the Judge.

Need more information.


23 posted on 12/20/2007 4:31:15 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: AntiKev

Could you translate the poster in post 8? Thanks.


24 posted on 12/20/2007 4:34:35 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

We taught our granddaughter until she reached the 1st grade. By then, she was reading at a 5th grade level, and was working on multiplication. For the next two years, she essentially occupied a desk, not learning anything in public school. They moved out of the district to another city where she is finally being challenged in school, but is still well above her grade level.

Having seen what happens, I can truly say that public schooling is being destroyed due to multi-lingual instruction, and a focus on the lowest common denominator, rather than pushing for excellence.


25 posted on 12/20/2007 4:42:26 AM PST by rstrahan
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To: Leisler

Children, what do you know of the leader? I machine translated to double check my very rusty high school German.


26 posted on 12/20/2007 4:46:11 AM PST by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: Former Proud Canadian; Leisler
My #26 was intended for Former Proud Canadian.

Caffeine, meet my brain. Brain, Caffeine.

27 posted on 12/20/2007 4:51:46 AM PST by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: tcostell
"This is an idea that anyone who lives in New Jersey has at least considered briefly. Best of luck to her and her kids."

You should do it! I FLED NJ and cannot believe that I waited so long to do it. Life is so much better.

28 posted on 12/20/2007 4:54:30 AM PST by Afronaut (Press 2 for English - Thanks Mr. President !)
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To: Falcon4.0
"(Judge) Johansen told her homeschooling fails 100 percent of the time"

If the judge actually said this, then he is too bloody ignorant to BE a judge, and should forfeit that office immediately.

Even a cursory study shows that, more often than not, home-schooled kids actually perform BETTER than those "public-schooled".

29 posted on 12/20/2007 4:55:07 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Man50D

Good for her! I’d send her money if there was a fund! I am sick of these judges! They are acting like they are a king! We are nothing but serfs to be controlled or disciplined! She is showing courage and backbone! Good for her!


30 posted on 12/20/2007 4:58:28 AM PST by freemike
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To: Former Proud Canadian

It means: “Children, what do you want from der Fuhrer?”

Kinda like Hitlery’s message. What do you want from government? baby bonds? earned income tax credit without earning any income? 401k match? free health care? Every time I hear about her latest offering, it makes me think of a dairy farm back in Wisconsin. The cows are fed everything they could possibly eat, but in return they give the farmer their milk and their children. With today’s methods of farming, the cow also ends up losing a much shorter life than would normally be the case. Isn’t selling your freedom great?


31 posted on 12/20/2007 4:58:35 AM PST by stefanbatory
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To: stefanbatory

Der Fuhrer is, of course, the what the German people called Hitler. It literally means “the Leader.”


32 posted on 12/20/2007 5:00:07 AM PST by stefanbatory
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To: Man50D

Brave woman!
I actually know someone who went through a similar experience, only the discord was not over homeschooling. Local authorities out to get her, threatened her with Child Protective Services intervention. She up and left. Within two weeks her home and business had been cleaned out by burglars, right under the noses of local police. She lost almost everything she had ever owned, but not her child. She always said she had no regrets.
Remembering that, I hope this homeschooling mother has someone she trusts, minding the house she left behind.
Otherwise her first clue that something’s wrong might be, that there’s no doorknob on her front door anymore.


33 posted on 12/20/2007 5:09:00 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( "Do well, but remember to do good.")
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To: Man50D

Good luck to this woman.


34 posted on 12/20/2007 5:10:20 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Man50D
And news reports telling the world she has fled the state leaving her home and possessions behind, that isn't helpful.
35 posted on 12/20/2007 5:11:21 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( "Do well, but remember to do good.")
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To: kittymyrib
Our Gestapo wear black robes.

That should be your tagline, since you don't have one.

36 posted on 12/20/2007 5:18:23 AM PST by bigjoesaddle ("By Grabthar's hammer......what a savings")
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To: Lovebloggers

Bingo, you’ve got it. There’s obviously more to this than just a homeschooling issue.

If it’s really just a simple “paperwork issue” regarding her homeshooling documentation, then it shouldn’t take more than a few days to clear it up. It’s almost Christmas break, so the kiddies wouldn’t likely be in public school more than a few days. Hardly the end of the world.

So instead of staying and resolving the issue, she flees the state, abandons her home and contacts WND with her story?

The mom says she “doesn’t want to be a martyr”, but I bet she really likes the attention...

Fletcher J


37 posted on 12/20/2007 5:29:03 AM PST by Fletcher J
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To: holdonnow

This is what it has come to. Citizens have to flee their homes in order to school their own children. That judge is an absolute disgrace. He needs to be thrown off the bench immediately. The school system and these judges need to be held accountable for their behavior. I am disgusted.


38 posted on 12/20/2007 5:31:58 AM PST by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: Lovebloggers

Maybe the kid had steak for lunch and got caught cutting it.


39 posted on 12/20/2007 5:36:01 AM PST by donna (Duncan Hunter: US Army, 1969-1971, with service in Vietnam)
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To: PubliusMM; All
From HSLDA -
Below is brief summary of the homeschooling law in Utah. For a detailed analysis of homeschooling in Utah, see:
Utah—A Legal Analysis
(Requires Adobe Acrobat Reader)

Compulsory School Age
"a minor who is at least six years old, but younger than 18 years old."

Utah Legal Home Schooling Options:  1  2  


Option: 1
Option: 2
Legal Option:
File affidavit with local school district
Establish a group of home school families as a regular private school
Attendance:
Same as the public schools
None
Subjects:
Same as public school core curriculum
None
Qualifications:
None
None
Notice:
Yes
None
Recordkeeping:
None
None
Testing:
None
None

© 2007, HSLDA
NOTE: This summary is not intended to be, and does not constitute, the giving of legal advice. Many states have unclear compulsory attendance statutes, and the courts of those states vary in their interpretation of the statutes. Therefore, there is no guarantee any state will accept all of the options for compliance listed under each state. This summary is not intended to be a substitute for individual reliance on privately retained legal counsel such as that provided by Home School Legal Defense Association.

40 posted on 12/20/2007 5:44:21 AM PST by Sopater (A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left. ~ Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Man50D

I can understand her moving, but why did she have to ‘flee’? Was the state holding her hostage and not allowing her to leave or something?


41 posted on 12/20/2007 5:45:54 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Man50D

This blog http://principleddiscovery.com/ has some interesting background — seems the blogger went and searched other sources for more info about Mafi.

Interesting reading.


42 posted on 12/20/2007 5:48:09 AM PST by twinzmommy
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To: From many - one.
They mess it up for the rest of us.

Strange. A few home-schoolers who are nutcases mess it up for all home-schoolers, but there are thousands of examples of how public schools are screwing up kids. Yet, the same ones calling for an end to home-schooling because of the few nutcases never say a word about the public schools.

43 posted on 12/20/2007 5:50:39 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Man50D; DaveLoneRanger

Homeschool Ping


44 posted on 12/20/2007 5:54:24 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: MEGoody
I can understand her moving, but why did she have to ‘flee’? Was the state holding her hostage and not allowing her to leave or something?

If she was being threatened with jail, then it's an accurate, and legal term.

Mark

45 posted on 12/20/2007 5:59:11 AM PST by MarkL
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To: stefanbatory
“In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us, ‘Make us your slaves, but feed us.’” (Dosteovsky’s Grand Inquisitor.)

It’s an old, human story.

Towards the end of the Roman Empire, freeman Roman citizens would show up at the large estates of the Roman Senators, and in return for food and shelter, would surrender their citizenship and make them, and their children in perpetuity, serfs. This was the beginning of the Italians, and Europeans principalities.

46 posted on 12/20/2007 6:00:21 AM PST by Leisler (RNC, RINO National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: Man50D

Judges like THAT are the ultimate vindication of the 2nd Amendment!


47 posted on 12/20/2007 6:08:49 AM PST by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: MEGoody
1. The Deterioration of Schooling

The quality of schooling is far worse today than it was in 1955. There is no respect in which inhabitants of a low-income neighborhood are so disadvantaged as in the kind of schooling they can get for their children. The reason is partly the deterioration of our central cities, partly the increased centralization of public schools--as evidenced by the decline in the number of school districts from 55,000 in 1955 to 15,000 in 1992. Along with centralization has come--as both cause and effect--the growing strength of teachers' unions. Whatever the reason, the fact of deterioration of elementary and secondary schools is not disputable.

The system over time has become more defective as it has become more centralized. Power has moved from the local community to the school district to the state, and to the federal government. About 90 percent of our kids now go to so-called public schools, which are really not public at all but simply private fiefs primarily of the administrators and the union officials.

We all know the dismal results: some relatively good government schools in high-income suburbs and communities; very poor government schools in our inner cities with high dropout rates, increasing violence, lower performance and demoralized students and teachers.

These changes in our educational system have clearly strengthened the need for basic reform. But they have also strengthened the obstacles to the kind of sweeping reform that could be produced by an effective voucher system. The teachers' unions are bitterly opposed to any reform that lessens their own power, and they have acquired enormous political and financial strength that they are prepared to devote to defeating any attempt to adopt a voucher system. The latest example is the defeat of Proposition 174 in California in 1993.

48 posted on 12/20/2007 6:09:30 AM PST by Leisler (RNC, RINO National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: Falcon4.0

I have a couple friends (brothers) who were homeschooled, and their younger siblings as well.

One’s an Iraq veteran who came home last year with a wife and two kids (and the MSM tells us that “none of them have come home”) and the other is an engineer at Tinker Air Force Base in OK.


49 posted on 12/20/2007 6:21:22 AM PST by RockinRight (Fred Thompson spells gravitas B-A-L-L-S-O-F-S-T-E-E-L.)
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To: Lovebloggers; twinzmommy
Dear Lovebloggers,

“I think it should be noted that her oldest was in juvenile court, to which the judge ordered him to school.”

According to the blog cited by twinzmommy, http://principleddiscovery.com/ , the child in trouble is Ms. Mafi's nine year-old son with Aspergers’ Syndrome who hit a neighborhood girl and then was charged with assault.

Not sure, but this might not quite amount to a hill of beans.

Sounds like the judge is a totalitarian ass who will not receive in this life the punishment due him.


sitetest

50 posted on 12/20/2007 6:58:48 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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