Posted on 12/21/2007 2:02:10 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
When Mike Huckabee went to Houston on Tuesday to raise funds for his fast-rising, money-starved presidential candidacy, a luncheon for the ordained Baptist minister was arranged by evangelical Christians. On hand was Judge Paul Pressler, a hero to Southern Baptist Convention reformers. But he was a nonpaying guest who supports Fred Thompson for president.
Huckabee greeted Pressler warmly. That contrasted with Huckabee's anger two months ago when they encountered each other in California. The former governor of Arkansas took issue then with comments by Pressler, a former Texas appeals court judge, that Huckabee had been a slacker in the war against secularists within the Baptist church.
The warmth in Texas and hostility in California reflects the dual personality of the pastor-politician who has broken out of the presidential campaign's second tier. Huckabee can come across as either a Reagan or a Nixon. More than personality explains why not all his Baptist brethren have signed on the dotted line for Huckabee. He did not join the "conservative resurgence" that successfully rebelled against liberals in the Southern Baptist Convention a generation ago.
Criticism from co-religionists stands apart from criticism by the Club for Growth, the Cato Institute and the Arkansas Eagle Forum of Huckabee's 10 big-government, high-tax years as governor. Because no Republican candidate since Pat Robertson in 1988 has depended so much on support from evangelicals, opposition by Huckabee's fellow Southern Baptists is significant.
Huckabee's base is reflected by sponsors of Tuesday's fundraising luncheon (requesting up to $4,600 a couple) at the Houston home of Steven Hotze, a leader in the highly conservative Christian Reconstruction movement. State Rep. Debbie Riddle was the only elected official on the host committee, most of whose members were not familiar names in Texas politics............"
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
It appears that the cure for it is a few moments of thinking with one's brain instead of one's denomination.
I sure hope.
First they came for the Baptists....
Requires correction: First they came for the Baptists Mormons....
Kind of like you huh?
First they came for the
Wouldn't it be nice if there were in the top tier of the race someone who is, was, and always will be pro-soverignty, pro-life, pro-taxpayer, and pro-Bill of Rights? Unfortunately that's not Romney . . . nor Guiliani, nor McCain, nor even Thompson. I think Thompson comes closest, myself.And I certainly wouldn't vote for Romney merely because someone suggested it would be bigotry not to. Clinton said that about Mayor Dinkins back when Guiliani was running to unseat him and clean up NYC.
Not me. I don't know how many posters on this site have gone out of their way to tell me that Mormons aren't really Christians. I could care less one way or the other but too many people chasing floating crosses are obsessed. From what I've seen Mormons on this site take a lot more guff than Baptists.
One thing that WILL unite us I’m afraid is electing a Democrat. It looks to me like we are well on the road to doing that because we are focusing too much on our differences rather than our similarities. We are ignoring history and it looks like we are doomed to repeat it.
As far as the site goes..always keep in mind that it's the Internet and you don't always know who is posting or for what reason.
My response is to the article and you are trying to perpetuate the battle you profess to be against. Go find another sucker to peddle this fight with. I have Mormons, Catholics. Protestants and even Jews in my family but not one of them is a religion hating leftist.
Stop feeding the ultimate enemy.
Hey I can almost see the smoke coming out of your ears. My only point was that Mormons take a lot guff here. Be happy, there’s no conspiracy here.
All I see is you and the Wapo stirring up trouble between the religions an a daily basis.
Put that in your pipe.
Well have a cup of coffee (or whatever), take a break and re-read what I wrote. All I suggested is “they” (your term) came for the Mormons first rather than the Baptists. I think we are in violent agreement here. There’s too much focus on our differences rather than our similarities and if we keep doing that “they” are going to win easily win.
I do think his campaign has done more to divide than to unite and yes I’ll concede that perhaps people outside of his campaign might have contributed to that environment but his campaign has done little to stop the fire. However, we have all made ourselves easy pickings by condemning everyone as RINOs, trying to recreate a Reagan that even Reagan couldn’t live up to, constantly threatening to boycott the election, etc, etc, etc. Can it really be that only a Democratic president will force us to focus on our similarities rather than our differences? How sad.
My Church is from Babtist roots and is “Non-Demonitional”. Does that mean I have to back Huckabee? No.
Our statement is “Empowered by God to Reach Others for Christ”. See my tagline...
Politics provide for interesting studies. At this point there isn't "fever" for anyone. There never has been. Front runners are strictly media creations.
The classic of all time was the King of the Hill four years ago...one Howard Dean. In 2003 the media crowned him Emperor of the Universe. On his best day he had the support of about 8% of the Democrats which translates into an asterisk on national popularity.
I think it might be best this season to push to mid February before deciding if any of us personally can support our party's front runner.
Coffee? Good idea.
Without going into a theological discourse, Huckabee is not a political or theological conservative, he is a liberal in both. He is not "evangelical," though the term evangelical, itself has been progressively debased to mean all manner of nonsense, which has nothing to do with the "gospel" - the original meaning of the word, "evangelical."
That he is a "minister" means no more than: Rev. Jesse Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton are "ministers."
Huckabee left the "gospel" ministry to become a politician. This is something that someone, who believes in the higher calling of the ministry and the commission to preach the gospel, could never do. It is comparable to a highly skilled surgeon leaving medical practice to empty bed pans or a teacher leaving to become the school janitor's assistant broom pusher.
This is primary season. Pointing out differences is good. What will be important is getting a conservative nominee for the general we can all get behind.
It’s the primary. We need to explore the differences to find the best candidate.
The time to come together is in the general election.
Do you really see that happening?
This will only be effective if we have gullible Republicans who fall for this. I believed that Republicans are more sophisticated than this but I'm beginning to wonder.
I do, IF the candidate is not a total rino.
“My Church is from Babtist roots and is “Non-Demonitional”. Does that mean I have to back Huckabee? No.”
Wow, I’m sure relieved you are against demons. Way too many churches are for them.
Since almost everyone in the Republican race has had that title hung around their neck, I have a hard time believing you are going to put differences aside if you don't get your way. And even if you do, how about all those people who supported "RINOs"? Do you really expect them to just forgive and forget all the nasty name calling and rally to your dream candidate? Sorry, I'd like to be more optimistic but there's a lot of bridge burning going on now. Yeah it's a primary but it's wide open and everyone has napalm. There's going to be a lot of burn marks in the next few months that are going to be hellish to heal.
Fading like a virus, one would hope.
Lets stop all this silly nonsense about the religiousness of any candidate. A friend of mine said the other day, if Romney were elected the Mormon tabernacle choir would open every press conference, thats how out of hand its gotten. Vote for a leader, on what he will do that is best for this country not his religion or we will be hearing,’Hail to the Chief’ beng played for Hillary.
Nondenominational.
Great post. I’m glad someone has said that (for me to read rather than think).
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