Posted on 12/21/2007 4:32:56 AM PST by sig226
DEERFIELD BEACH -- Broward County authorities say a man is been charged with murder following a road rage confrontation that resulted in his passenger being fatally shot.
Sheriff officials say 43-year-old Steven Lonzisero and another man approached a driver last week, accused him of driving poorly and shouted racial profanities.
That driver, 49-year-old Hygens Labidou, fired several shots from his legally permitted handgun. He struck Lonzisero and his passenger 28-year-old Edward Borowsky.
(Excerpt) Read more at heraldtribune.com ...
Point weapon, pull out phone, call 911, if suspects still persist in the face of a gun (highly unlikely IMO) then consider shooting.
I’m not assuming he was carrying. The way this article was written, that fact would have been mentioned.
Words don’t kill people.
You would think that would be the case, maybe the guy who was carrying should have stayed calmer and realized the two thugs were not too excited to realize their life be forfeited and tried to reason with them......................... or maybe he might be dead.
Just last week a guy bumped me from the rear trying to get around me in a traffic jam. Nothing serious, but I tossed my hands up saying in effect "Hey watch it"
He gets out of his car and stars to walk to my closed, locked truck. He asked me to roll my window down, he looked like he wanted to made sure I didn't question his driving skills
I make a hand signal of a gun and pointed down to my seat. His attitude changed from pissed to "no problem dude" and walked away.
If he stared beating on my window and acting like a mad man, it would have been a different story
Thanks for that post. With so many details left out of the first short story, it is hard to guess what happened.
One had a knife and they were trying to pull the shooter from his vehicle.
A much more detailed story here:
I stayed in my vehicle till the law arrived and explained to him I am in the possession of a CCW and do in fact have a firearm on me.
He takes my permit and drivers license and calmly walks up to the screaming loon and explained to her the situation...you think she saw a ghost.
She was only 5’5” about a 130lbs so she posed no serious threat to me and my family, but she most defiantly exposed her self to a possibly dangerous situation.
I wish police would ticket tailgaters more often. It’s dangerous.
LOL. I missed that one. “Is been.”
It’s probably a felony murder charge. Punks 1 & 2 approach the driver who has a CCW permit and assault him in a way that causes him to reasonably believe he’s at risk of death or great bodily harm (such an assault can be verbal, as well as physical, if it contains racial insults and physical threats) and the assault’s target fires in self defense, wounding punk 1 and killing punk 2. Punk 1 probably committed a felony in initiating the assault; thus, when punk 2 was killed in the course of that felony, punk 1 became liable for murder under the felony murder rule.
Good cite. It explains that the two punks were armed, one with a knife, and they attacked the citizen, trying to force their way into his vehicle to kill him or maim him, giving him the right to stop them with deadly force, which he did. Thus, they were committing a felony and, when one of them died from gunshot wounds, the decedent’s fellow conspirator was rightfully charged with felony murder.
Check out 47. They weren’t just using words.
2nd Ammendment to the rescue again.
That's exactly what it is. Felony murder charges are quite common here in Florida, though the doctrine has been abolished in a number of other states. If someone -- anyone -- is murdered during the commission of a felony in which you are an accomplice, you get hit with a murder charge. You see perps getting socked with this all the time where their partner-in-crime has been killed.
Also, anybody who thinks the driver with the CCW should have just warned these two off with a gun is nuts. I've read a number of the local news reports down here on this case. The guy in jail is 6'3" and close to 300 lbs, and was known as a total hothead. I don't blame the driver for not just pulling his piece and politely asking him to go away. The law doesn't require that here in Florida. See this statute for details.
Maybe it’s the law that doesn’t make much sense.
It sounds like you and the officer may have helped one person see the downside of road rage.
If only the officer had a video of the persons face......
Yeah, I read that link. It explains a lot of stuff the original article left out.
It can be both.
Do you assume everyone in the US is carrying a cell phone with them at all times? Did it occur to you that there are still millions of people that don't have one?
I for one carried a Glock long before I carried a cell phone.
No, it doesn’t. I don’t know what they teach people in journalism school these days, but it can’t be much.
ESL!!!
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