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Identity Politics and the Hucksters
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_122107/content/01125113.guest.html ^ | December 21, 2007 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 12/21/2007 7:22:12 PM PST by dixiechick2000

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To: Anti-Christ is Hillary

The Huck and the BJ have a similar sense of humor and both definitely got the stink of the Clintons!


21 posted on 12/22/2007 6:26:28 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: AmericanMade1776

1776: “...floating cross...three Christmas balls...depicting the Holy Trinity. Huckabee...lied that he had no intent to use them.”

‘76, how can you let him off the hook for not admitting that the empty fireplace over his left shoulder was meant to make a subliminal reference to the Empty Tomb. The other stuff, I could forgive, but that...


22 posted on 12/22/2007 8:00:06 AM PST by AFA-Michigan
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To: Maynerd

“Huckabee...may not win a single state.”

The detachment from reality here is simply astonishing.


23 posted on 12/22/2007 8:03:50 AM PST by AFA-Michigan
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To: AFA-Michigan

Mike Huckabee was educated in how to be a pastor, how to use media to preach, and all the props, he used them. Not that there is anything wrong in using them, but for political reasons, and then denying he knew is well ..dishonest.


24 posted on 12/22/2007 8:27:53 AM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: AFA-Michigan
The detachment from reality here is simply astonishing.

I'm kinda slooow. Tell me how Huckabilly puts together an electoral majority in the general election?

I would bet large sums of money that either clinton, obama, or edwards would crush huckabee in the general.

25 posted on 12/22/2007 9:37:27 AM PST by Maynerd (Hillary = amnesty, higher taxes,defeat in the WOT, and socialized medicine)
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To: Maynerd

Maynerd, that’s certainly a more reasonable question than saying “Huckabee...may not win a single state.” Perhaps you intended that merely as hyperbole.

But let’s narrow it down to something manageable and realistic. I think Huckabee would carry every state Bush carried in 2004, with the fight for Ohio being hard-fought as it was then.

In fact, current polling indicates that Huckabee is stronger in general election matchups in Ohio than either Giuliani or Romney.

RASMUSSEN: “In the presidential race in Ohio — whose electoral votes were just barely won by President Bush in 2004 — top GOP candidates have the edge when voters consider possible match-ups in 2008. Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani leads Senator Hillary Clinton of 44% to 42%...Giuliani also leads Senator Barack Obama 43% to 40%.
Hillary Clinton and former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney are tied 43% to 43%. Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, newly ascendant in the Republican primary race, leads Clinton 44% to 40% and leads Obama 45% to 39%.”

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/ohio/ohio_2008_presidential_election

Similarly, Zogby finds that Huckabee has the largest margin of victory over Hillary nationwide of any Republican candidate.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1393

And according to Rasmussen, Huckabee’s the only GOP candidate who leads Hillary in Arkansas, which reflects the much larger problem that if one of the two northeastern Yankee candidates with liberal records on abortion on “gay rights” are nominated, even some southern states will be at risk.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/arkansas/arkansas_2008_presidential_election

But as I said, let’s narrow it down. On the assumption you are not seriously so detached from reality as to believe that Hillary or Obama would win all 50 states, tell me which states Bush won in 2004 that you think Huckabee wouldn’t win in 2008?

And please state whether your analysis is merely speculation, or if it’s supported by some political expertise or experience on your part or scientific data (such as provided above).


26 posted on 12/22/2007 11:30:35 AM PST by AFA-Michigan
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To: AmericanMade1776

76: “...denying he knew is well ..dishonest...”

You were an eyewitness to the filming and setup of the ad?

Or this is just your unbiased speculation?


27 posted on 12/22/2007 11:33:21 AM PST by AFA-Michigan
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To: AFA-Michigan
In my opinion, Huckabee will lose the economic conservatives, border security conservatives, and a lot of national security conservatives, i.e. the McCain, Giuliani, Tancredo segment of the party. The laughably small libertarian wing of the party will bail out as well. I’m not saying those folks will vote for Obama or Hilary (some will) most will drift away and fragment.

Huckabee’s media honeymoon will end the day after he secures the republican nomination. After that he will be relentlessly attacked (fairly and unfairly) as an ignorant bible thumping Elmer Gantry demagogic hick, out of his depth and unsuitable for national office, a divider, not a uniter, etc. It will be ugly and many conservatives Limbaugh, Coulter, National Review, etc will not lift a finger to help him

It is inconceivably that Huckleberry will carry a state outside of Dixie. He hacked off too many Mormans with his religious bigotry to win UT or ID. He won’t carry VA, FL, GA, TX. He might carry AR, OK, AL, MS but I wouldn’t bet on it.

Bottom line Huckabee will be an electoral disaster. He is our Howard Dean and the democrats best chance for 60 seats in the senate.

28 posted on 12/22/2007 1:39:07 PM PST by Maynerd (Hillary = amnesty, higher taxes,defeat in the WOT, and socialized medicine)
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To: Maynerd

“It is inconceivable that Huckleberry will carry a state outside of Dixie. He hacked off too many Mormans with his religious bigotry to win UT or ID. He won’t carry VA, FL, GA, TX. He might carry AR, OK, AL, MS but I wouldn’t bet on it.”

We may or may not get to find out, but if Huckabee is the nominee, I’ll bet my ranch — having lived in Idaho for 20 years — that he’ll win both Idaho and Utah in excess of 60 percent of the vote.

And all those fiscal conservatives (of which I certainly am one) and Rush and Ann and everybody else you mention will do exactly what they expect social conservatives to do every cycle even when the nominee is less than totally satisfactory, which is vote Republican rather than allow the Democrats to win.

It’s amusing, frankly, now that the shoe might be on the other foot. If Rudy were the nominee, I’m guessing you’d be lecturing social conservatives that they have no other choice since it’d be even worse to sit on the sidelines and let Hillary get elected.

Well, remember that if Huckabee gets nominated.


29 posted on 12/23/2007 4:24:05 AM PST by AFA-Michigan
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To: Maynerd

But your detachment from reality is slightly less evident given that you no longer claim Huckabee wouldn’t win a single state.


30 posted on 12/23/2007 4:25:10 AM PST by AFA-Michigan
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath
'the politics is secondary to their humor and personality.'

The politics of a president is NEVER secondary.

31 posted on 12/23/2007 4:53:20 AM PST by mathluv
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To: AFA-Michigan
But your detachment from reality is slightly less evident given that you no longer claim Huckabee wouldn’t win a single state.

If by some awful circumstance Huckabee wins the nomination, I will cheerfully accept any wager from you regarding the outcome. Huckabee will be lucky to win one state.

32 posted on 12/23/2007 11:18:15 AM PST by Maynerd (Hillary = amnesty, higher taxes,defeat in the WOT, and socialized medicine)
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To: Maynerd

Do you care to bet the ranch on Huckabee?


33 posted on 12/23/2007 11:19:30 AM PST by Maynerd (Hillary = amnesty, higher taxes,defeat in the WOT, and socialized medicine)
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To: Maynerd

I will bet my ranch and my neighbor’s that Huckabee wins at least one state, the point being to address the absurdity of suggesting otherwise.

As to his winning the presidency or even the nomination, no, that’s far from certain.

I believe he can win the nomination, but that’s far from certain.

If he does win the nomination, he may lose, but not by the ridiculous scenario you suggest.

To reiterate, if he wins the nomination, I have said I’d bet the ranch that (1) he’ll win Utah and Idaho by over 60%, and (2) that he’ll win at least one state.


34 posted on 12/23/2007 12:02:30 PM PST by AFA-Michigan
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To: dixiechick2000

Is Rush trying to say that Huck is a “Christian Identity” candidate? That’ not much different from kooky Ron Paul’s comment that when fascism comes to this country, it will be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross.


35 posted on 01/02/2008 6:18:14 PM PST by Tlaloc
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