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Spending our way to financial ruin (each American household owes $455,000 for entitlements)
San Francisco Examiner ^ | 12/22/07

Posted on 12/22/2007 7:22:36 AM PST by Libloather

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And voters should only support candidates who unequivocally agree to stop squandering our children’s future.

Ain't gonna happen. If it feels good, they'll do it.

1 posted on 12/22/2007 7:22:41 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

On this subject, Bush is part of the problem, not part of the solution.


2 posted on 12/22/2007 7:28:02 AM PST by samtheman (Huckabee. A Bible-Packing Leftist.)
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To: Libloather

totally ludicrous article

everyone knows we can all eat china supplied arificially flavored cake


3 posted on 12/22/2007 7:28:07 AM PST by Flavius (24/7)
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Ain't gonna happen. If it feels good, they'll do it.

Yep. SS & Medicare are two of the biggest abominations ever created by our country. It should have been a private system right from the start (but then again, that wouldn't have kept the people dependent on the state)

4 posted on 12/22/2007 7:28:16 AM PST by rb22982
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To: Libloather

Fortunately there is an alternative. Move to another country. Yes moving to the country within South Dakota to Montana, you too can avoid these nasty vexing tax problems. Here’s where I’m going
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317548,00.html


5 posted on 12/22/2007 7:30:36 AM PST by BipolarBob (I've been stung by honey bees and bumblebees. I don't want no huckle bee.)
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To: Libloather

I haven’t watched the MSM Evening News in years..but last night I happened to see Katie for a few minutes.
They did a piece on the famous”earmarks”..with Pres. Bush and ended the piece showing an Air Force warehouse full of unneeded purchases and said the Air Force was the worst spender. It seemed to blame earmarks on the Air Force and not Congress.
The people aren’t up in arms because our MSM “watchdog” media won’t do their job and make news out of this out-right curruption of “earmarks”..nor will they tell the public the truth about our Federal, State and local govt spending and insolvency.
Just look at CA..the press was blaming the Republicans for blocking the CA budget in Aug. They were more than right..CA is broke..busted.


6 posted on 12/22/2007 7:32:45 AM PST by Oldexpat
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And voters should only support candidates who unequivocally agree to stop squandering our children’s future.

Sorry, I'm not voting for Ron Paul.

7 posted on 12/22/2007 7:34:13 AM PST by Wolfie
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We will only vote for “front runners” who can “win”. We fear the judgment of men, should we vote for someone who won’t win.

See my tagline ...


8 posted on 12/22/2007 7:37:33 AM PST by ROTB (Front Runner=rich guy who doesn't hate evil and strives to offend no one, & WILL SELL YOU OUT.)
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I agree with you.

This is a matter of political will. However, the electorate will punish anyone who attempts to correct the situation.

9 posted on 12/22/2007 7:39:08 AM PST by verity ("Lord, what fools these mortals be!")
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Individual and state problem. Cal spends $10 bill a year on services for illegals and has a $14 bill deficit.


10 posted on 12/22/2007 7:39:38 AM PST by purpleraine
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"Our national stock is dropping. The value of the U.S. dollar has depreciated against almost every other major foreign currency. Anybody who believes that the federal government can continue to spend billions of dollars it doesn’t have is living in a fool’s paradise. Congress is already using the Social Security surplus to pay government operating expenses and “repaying” it with a bunch of IOUs. Of the aforementioned benefit deficit of $53 trillion, $34 trillion is owed for Medicare alone. Seven short years ago, the country’s entire entitlement shortfall stood at $20 trillion."

Just another alarmist piece aimed at the uninformed hand wringers. The dollar has been far lower then it is today. Back in the 1970's under the guidance of Jimmah Cahtah the dollar was in such bad shape that the French would not even accept them in payment for services used by American tourists, who were stranded there for a period of time while things were worked out. Back then about 25-30% of the entire worlds reserves were in dollars versus about 65% now. The dollar is and shall be the currency of last resort for as far into the future as one cares to look. If and when the sh*t truly hits the fan on this tired old planet, you will see a surge in the dollars value unprecedented in history as traders dump other more vulnerable currencies for the safety of the USA backed currency.

11 posted on 12/22/2007 7:39:50 AM PST by aroundabout
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“And voters should only support candidates who unequivocally agree to stop squandering our children’s future.”

And just who might those candidates be?? Let’s face it, as far as spending goes there is little if any difference between the parties or the candidates. From where I sit we are on our own.Our leaders (Of all persuasions) are interested in their own interests - Or, after being elected, very soon adopt that philosophy.

12 posted on 12/22/2007 7:41:01 AM PST by TCats
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Just three years ago G.W.Bush tried to address this Social Security problem by:
a) guaranteeing seniors their social security and
b) allow privatizing future recipients social security payroll deductions.
Loud howling from the Dem's and most of all from AARP the Dem’s best friend and true interest group.
We are looking towards degrade Social Security into a welfare program, where the income poor, and that is those who pay the least, are the only ones that receive Social Security.
Dem's will profit as there will be more poor ones which infallibly are true Dem voters.
13 posted on 12/22/2007 7:41:05 AM PST by hermgem (Will Olmr)
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I wonder if debit ridden Citizens here will realize the Republic of Texas "kooks" were not so crazy after all. Especially when the Governor’s name is Martinez, not Perry, they can not get a job and things are starting to look like a blend of mexico and Rhodesia.

Nah, probably not.

14 posted on 12/22/2007 7:47:48 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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$34 trillion is owed for Medicare alone

Just wait till we get a full-blown socialized medical system. That will be chump-change.

15 posted on 12/22/2007 7:49:22 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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"Ain't gonna happen. If it feels good, they'll do it."

It may have felt good at one time, but my gut instincts tell me that's not the case anymore. I believe everyone in government knows the dire financial straights our nation is in, and they have decided it is a helpless situation they are fearful to tackle. I believe most Americans have a sense of how bad the situation is too.

The government created the mess. Congress cannot stop spending, therefore it cannot stop borrowing. If it did, the whole nation would soon learn what the federal government knows, but is fearful to admit. Without the government spending there is no segment of American society that can sustain the economy under current circumstances. Millions of people would find themselves out of work.

Americans cannot provide an economic replacement to the lost government spending if it ended. Too many Americans are already in a financial quagmire of debt.

American industries cannot provide an economic replacement if government spending suddenly ended as a large number of factories have been moved to other countries.

The nation has been stripped bare of any public segment that could support a sound economy. As a nation, we are up the creek, not only without a paddle, but without so much as a log to cling to.

We are living in a time of a false economy. If not for the government borrowing vast sums of money to be spent on every conceivable project, the truth of our financial straights would be painfully obvious to all immediately. Even the entitlements are no longer geared to assist retirees, but to get money into the hands of people that will spend it immediately to help mask the precarious situation.
16 posted on 12/22/2007 8:11:23 AM PST by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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each American household owes $455,000 for these entitlements

And that is before we get the bill for the gifts under Hillary's "holiday tree."

17 posted on 12/22/2007 8:11:58 AM PST by outofstyle (My Ride's Here)
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To: backtothestreets

While that is true, the government could however flatline or slightly decrease spending—especially on ‘social programs.’ With time and inflatin, the real spending by the gov’t will go down significantly, and the private sector spending will go up picking up that slack.


18 posted on 12/22/2007 8:14:11 AM PST by rb22982
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bmflr

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According to Intrade, the winner of the December 12th GOP debate was... Duncan Hunter.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938773/posts


19 posted on 12/22/2007 8:17:04 AM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: rb22982

I agree. I just don’t see it happening in government voluntarily. I don’t see either political party as having the moral fortitude to make it happen either. Nonetheless, you are correct.


20 posted on 12/22/2007 8:22:04 AM PST by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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