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IRS orders FedEx to pay $319 mln
http://www.marketwatch.com/ ^ | December 22, 2007 | Greg Morcroft,

Posted on 12/22/2007 2:49:32 PM PST by lowbridge

FedEx Corp. said late Friday that the Internal Revenue Service has ordered the company to pay back taxes and fines totaling $319 million for ground employees the firm misclassified as independent contractors.

The ruling covers 13,000 employees FedEx had in 2002, and the company said that the IRS is investigating the status of contractors hired between 2004 and 2006. That probe could lead to further penalties, the company said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fedex; irs
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1 posted on 12/22/2007 2:49:33 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge
I bet FED-EX will use the U.S.P.O. to deliver the moolah. That way they can be assured it will be delivered by Christmas(2008)
2 posted on 12/22/2007 2:52:56 PM PST by shadeaud
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To: lowbridge

Fed-Ex should tell them “MOLON LABE!”


3 posted on 12/22/2007 2:55:13 PM PST by xrp (Ron Paul: The RIGHT way to vote for freedom.)
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To: shadeaud
If they gave it to DHL to deliver DHL would deliver it to the wrong address. Deny that they did. Give an incorrect shipping number (if the IRS could even get ahold of their customer service).
4 posted on 12/22/2007 2:58:04 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Liberalism IS a mental illness.)
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To: lowbridge

Reason #45873459 that the IRS should be abolished. What difference does it make who did what, as long as it was done? Taxing the same job differently for different workers is social-micro-engineering. Only the most arrogant or the most clueless think they know how to create utopia by such engineering. Neither class should be in charge of America.


5 posted on 12/22/2007 3:02:03 PM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: proudofthesouth
If they gave it to DHL to deliver DHL would deliver it to the wrong address. Deny that they did. Give an incorrect shipping number (if the IRS could even get ahold of their customer service).

Don't get me started on how crummy DHL's service is. Took them 5 days to deliver a guaranteed 2 day delivery. Cost me a bundle of money.

6 posted on 12/22/2007 3:05:00 PM PST by dearolddad (Opinions are like rectums: everybody has one.)
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To: dearolddad

From the postings that I’ve read at a couple of consumer websites, I don’t understand how DHL is still in business (along with Best Buy, Amazon, Ebay, Circuit City, etc, etc).


7 posted on 12/22/2007 3:09:04 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Liberalism IS a mental illness.)
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To: lowbridge
The IRS makes this kind of check on all "independent contractors". If the contractor has only one customer i.e. FedEx, then FedEx is the contractor's sole employer. FedEx was trying to skirt the social security and benefits burdens by just shipping a 1099 to the contractor. As an employer, you have to be very careful about using "contractors" in that fashion. FedEx got caught.

A similar level of vigilance is required on the part of people who feature themselves as independent contractors, but only work for one customer. The IRS is going to come after you and your customer.

8 posted on 12/22/2007 3:09:41 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: dearolddad

Just tell the IRS those 13,000 employees were chinese dishwashers.


9 posted on 12/22/2007 3:14:04 PM PST by BerryDingle (Illegitimi Non Carborundum (Don't let the bastards wear you down))
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To: proudofthesouth
Amazon ships via a mix of vendors. UPS, Airborne (DHL+USPS) and USPS direct. Barnes & Noble generally sticks with UPS. DHL freight is often handed off to independent contractors in my area. Many of those people are unemployed and perform these deliveries as a means of wringing some cash out of their investment in a car or truck. The airlines employ some of these people to deliver late arriving luggage as well.

I've purchased Russian kettlebells form a supplier down in Texas. He uses UPS exclusively because they will reimburse his losses if they screw up the delivery or lose the package. Not so with FedEx. He stopped using FedEx because they kept losing the packages and not covering the losses. The "independent contractors" didn't have any liability or accountability.

10 posted on 12/22/2007 3:15:42 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin
The primary complaint that I’ve read about Amazon has been the lack of and rudeness of their CSR’s.
11 posted on 12/22/2007 3:18:15 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Liberalism IS a mental illness.)
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To: Myrddin
"then FedEx is the contractor's sole employer"

Then why in the hell should this make any difference - other than the fact it is a damn arbitrary law?

12 posted on 12/22/2007 3:22:13 PM PST by RAY (God Bless the USA!)
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Then why in the hell should this make any difference - other than the fact it is a damn arbitrary law?

It's a law written at the behest of labor unions, who live in terror that their employers are going to reclassify them all as independent contractors to avoid paying health benefits and to allow them to stop doing business with the deadwood among their numbers...most of whom are union officers. ;)

It doesn't matter to them that independent contractor status might be a huge advantage to their members, as the most talented among them could command much higher rates.

13 posted on 12/22/2007 3:26:02 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: coloradan
Reason #45873459 that the IRS should be abolished.

How you know there's no such thing as telekinesis: Every April 15, hundreds of thousands of IRS workers do not suddenly die or burst into fire or have their intestines explode.
14 posted on 12/22/2007 3:29:06 PM PST by aruanan
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To: coloradan

It goes beyond that... There are 20 common law factors that are supposed to be used to weigh whether or not a worker is a contractor or employee - case law shows that if the worker meets just 4-5 of the factors, they are found to not be an employee. Of course, the IRS takes the stance that if you meet ANY of the 20, it’s an employee. Of course, States consider otherwise (and rightly so).

Try to justify to a State why a contractor is NOT given a 1099, but a W-2. And try to explain to the IRS why an “employee” is given a 1099 and not a W-2. And try not to get both sides upset at you.

If you’re tagged/audited by the IRS and you have ANY contractors on staff, you best not meet ANY of the 20 criteria or they will consider it willful misrepresentation of classification and immediately hit you for at least twice the taxes that should have been due (income and FICA and SS). And you have to fight to not only show it was NOT willful, but that the worker was in fact a contractor.

I know, it happened to me 3 times in 7 years. Even pointing out to the “revenue officer” (yes, that’s their title) the LAW and the IRS’ own guidelines that it is to be a WEIGHTED evaluation of the 20 factors, I was still found to be committing willful misrepresentation and hit with literally hundreds of thousands of dollars of fines and levies. Which are applied immediately - you know what an IRS levy does to your credit lines?

In each case, after 6 months and tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees to fight them I got the IRS to “forgive” the infraction and accept my classification. Yes, “forgive” me for doing nothing wrong to start. In each time, they even tried to attach my personal assets even though that is clearly illegal (corporate veil).

Just another example of the IRS taking a guilty-until-proven-innocent attitude. And even when PROVEN innocent in a judicial pre-trial review or court they still consider you’re doing something wrong, they just haven’t found it yet... I’m convinced that beating them in the first audit was the reason I got two more in the space of 3 years.

The IRS is one of the largest drags on the economy; I know that much of the offshoring of companies and assets is strictly to avoid their own contradictory and unilateral means of dealing with the tax payer. If the asset is outside their reach, there’s a lot less to worry about...


15 posted on 12/22/2007 3:33:21 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Complaining about the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible.)
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To: BerryDingle

That’s what they get for trying to work within the law.

If they had just hired illegals they would be getting a subsidy from congress instead of having to pay fines to the IRS.


16 posted on 12/22/2007 3:33:26 PM PST by Iron Munro ( (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.))
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To: lowbridge

Can add only one word: FairTax. 

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17 posted on 12/22/2007 3:34:25 PM PST by JCG
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I'm sure that the IRS will be refunding the "self employment tax" that those contractors paid, won't they?

Seriously, the IRS has some of the craziest rules when it comes to determining who's an employee VS who's a contractor... There are actually companies who do nothing but "certify" contractors. I know this because a company I worked for had a very hard time with the IRS a while back...

I worked as a full time employee of a company... A large software company wanted me to come on to their site, using their equipment, to teach a 5 day class. So they attempted to hire my company to send me to teach the class. But because I was going to the software company's offices, and using their equipment, I was being classified as an employee of that software company by the certification company. We tried to explain to them that I wasn't being hired, but my company was being contracted to send me. It was a real nightmare, and it involved all sorts of letters, a tax lawyer, and a waiver over a period of about 3 weeks. Eventually things were straightened out and I jetted off to teach the class, but it was a real nightmare.

Mark

18 posted on 12/22/2007 3:35:24 PM PST by MarkL
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

See my #18 post...

Mark


19 posted on 12/22/2007 3:39:42 PM PST by MarkL
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To: JCG

BTTT


20 posted on 12/22/2007 3:40:42 PM PST by Principled (Vaporize the "Divide and Conquer" taxes - Have everyone pay the same marginal rate!. NRST!)
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