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Plane passengers asked for security tips
upi ^ | 12/23/07 | upi

Posted on 12/23/2007 6:00:59 PM PST by Flavius

The U.S. Transportation Department is using a new source to help determine potential airline protections: actual plane passengers.

Passengers have been invited to offer DOT officials protection suggestions by Jan. 22. They could help the federal agency determine what additional efforts should be taken to improve U.S. air travel, The Denver Post said Saturday.

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i have a few but id be banned
1 posted on 12/23/2007 6:01:00 PM PST by Flavius
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To: Flavius

How’s about racial profiling?


2 posted on 12/23/2007 6:03:00 PM PST by wastedyears ("I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Flavius

I recommend a stout hickory stick in that magazine pocket on the back of every seat. No hijacker is going to make it through that gauntlet.


3 posted on 12/23/2007 6:05:35 PM PST by Sender (You are the weapon. What you hold in your hand is just a tool.)
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To: Flavius

yeah, me too. Most ideas that would actually help security are politically incorrect. Now it is frustrating to see “random checks” which actually seem anything than random. Because of PC and the threat of lawsuits, it is far more likely that 95 year old white grandma from Ohio is selected for special check rather than 22 year old arab male.

Also, special attention to laptop while allowing any other electronic apparatus with wires attached to it being in a bag is ridiculous.


4 posted on 12/23/2007 6:06:13 PM PST by tompster76 (Amnesty: No aspirations of citizenship to illegals - ever!)
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To: Flavius

You must eat a piece of pork before being allowed to board.

Problem solved.


5 posted on 12/23/2007 6:07:16 PM PST by Tall_Texan (No Third Term For Bill Clinton!)
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To: Flavius

Get rid of 80% of the overweight, rude, bored, spoiled losers that work for TSA.


6 posted on 12/23/2007 6:09:53 PM PST by neodad (USS Wabash (AOR 5) The Wabash Cannonball)
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To: Flavius

No noncitizen Muslims.


7 posted on 12/23/2007 6:11:56 PM PST by Jim Noble (Trails of trouble, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: Flavius

PROFILE


8 posted on 12/23/2007 6:14:16 PM PST by phil1750 (Love like you've never been hurt;Dance like nobody's watching;PRAY like it's your last prayer)
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To: Flavius
#1) Fire every elected official who opposes racial profiling.

#2) Implement racial profiling.

9 posted on 12/23/2007 6:15:34 PM PST by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: Flavius

1) Bring in the Israelis to train your people.

2) Take all TSA employees into hospital wards where victims of bombs are patients, force them to look at pix of airplane crash victims, make it clear to them why they’re doing what they’re doing.


10 posted on 12/23/2007 6:19:15 PM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Flavius

So now we are expected to TIP the TSA gropers and probers “for good service”? What, 20% of the ticket price for being felt up?


11 posted on 12/23/2007 6:21:10 PM PST by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Flavius
Passengers have been invited to offer DOT officials protection suggestions

Shut down TWA,


Travel
With
Arabs

Make all our flights DELTA.

Don't
Even
Let
Them
Aboard

12 posted on 12/23/2007 6:21:42 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Smithers hand me that icecream scoop. This isn't rocket science, it's brain surgery.)
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To: Tall_Texan
You must eat a piece of pork before being allowed to board.

Does that mean no Orthodox Jews allowed on flights?

I'll gladly drink a beer, thanks.

13 posted on 12/23/2007 6:22:21 PM PST by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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dont be afraid to profile.


14 posted on 12/23/2007 6:24:19 PM PST by isom35
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To: Flavius

One word.....PROFILING


15 posted on 12/23/2007 6:24:51 PM PST by NordP (Such tough choices ahead, I'm now a "middle of the road" voter--somewhere between RUSH & Savage ;-))
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To: Flavius

Archie Bunker suggested years ago, that all passengers should have to fly naked.


16 posted on 12/23/2007 6:25:50 PM PST by don-o (Do the RIGHT thing. Become a monthly donor. End Freepathons forever)
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To: Flavius
Image hosted by Photobucket.com ya wanta tip??? here's a tip for ya from yer uncle Chode...

quit searching GrandMa and GrandPa moses and start searching the friggin moHAMids!!!

17 posted on 12/23/2007 6:38:18 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: Tall_Texan
You must eat a piece of pork before being allowed to board. Problem solved.

You got it right! And being that pork is my favorite food, I might begin to put up with the airline/TSA bullsh*t again, once in awhile....

18 posted on 12/23/2007 6:44:33 PM PST by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: Alouette
Does that mean no Orthodox Jews allowed on flights?

Okay. We'll exempt you if you are wearing orthodox clothing. Of course, be prepared to see some Vegans dressed the same way. ;-P

19 posted on 12/23/2007 6:45:41 PM PST by Tall_Texan (No Third Term For Bill Clinton!)
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To: Flavius
Maybe it's just me, but the title of the article really doesn't seem to match up with the content of the article. The article seems to be about the Department of Transportation (not the TSA, specifically) asking airline passengers for suggestions about what to do on a passenger bill of rights.

Nowhere in the article do I see security or one of its synonyms being used.

20 posted on 12/23/2007 6:48:31 PM PST by hunter112 (Hillary Clinton - America’s Ex-Wife®)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Agreed...except the only problem with Delta is that they bought all the worn out Eastern Airlines equipment, and - judging by my travels on Delta - haven't done anything other than painted over the stuff........flying Delta has gotten downright scary. Your plane might disintegrate before your dying eyes.

Fly Delta, and you're flying a bucket o' bolts.

21 posted on 12/23/2007 6:49:22 PM PST by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: hunter112
Maybe it's just me, but the title of the article really doesn't seem to match up with the content of the article

LOL, you actually read the article!

22 posted on 12/23/2007 6:54:24 PM PST by OCC
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To: Cagey; Larry Lucido; MotleyGirl70; Gamecock; Rb ver. 2.0

From Jerry Seinfeld:

“The way you want to set up airport security is to have the short heavy set woman at the front with the skin tight uniform. That’s your first line of defense.”

http://www.thebig.tv/view_video.php?viewkey=476c56d19d827bcf8db5


23 posted on 12/23/2007 7:04:05 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside; Cagey; MotleyGirl70; Gamecock; Rb ver. 2.0; jdm

If the terrorists want fitted hats, they get fitted hats! Oh, and run around the airport and shut all the windows.


24 posted on 12/23/2007 7:08:05 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: Flavius
Post 9/11, airlines conducted “secondary security checks” at the gate.

I was on a flight from DC to Tampa. 15 people were selected for the “secondary checks.” 15 middle age Caucasian males. I asked the airline manager why. Her reply? “You don’t complain.”

Recently at DFW, a female TSA agent was working unsupervised, out of site of any other TSA agent or LEOs. Her job was to prevent un-screened people entering the sterile concourse area through the exit doors.

She was wearing her full Muslim headscarf with her uniform.

25 posted on 12/23/2007 7:08:44 PM PST by MindBender26 (Is FR worth our time anymore? All the "fun" sees to be gone.)
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To: Alouette

The hijackers patronized strip bars before they went home and shaved their bodies.


26 posted on 12/23/2007 7:12:05 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: ErnBatavia

What EAL equipment is DAL still flying? The 727s are all gone, as are the early DC-9 aircraft. Eastern’s airbus aircraft did not go to Delta.


27 posted on 12/23/2007 7:12:12 PM PST by MindBender26 (Is FR worth our time anymore? All the "fun" sees to be gone.)
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To: ErnBatavia

What EAL equipment is DAL still flying? The 727s are all gone, as are the early DC-9 aircraft. Eastern’s airbus aircraft did not go to Delta.

In addition, Delta’s L-1011s are all gone too.


28 posted on 12/23/2007 7:17:49 PM PST by MindBender26 (Is FR worth our time anymore? All the "fun" sees to be gone.)
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To: MindBender26

I like Delta, the staff is nice, and generally my experiences have been fine. They are upgrading their stock (seat back videos in cabin class, etc.) but in general, they get you where you’re going more or less on time, leaving aside the Southern thunderstorm factor.

As for airline security, the thing to do is register Muslims. They are the only problem and they are the reason we and the rest of the world have had to completely revamp everything in airline travel.

Register them and check them. And if somebody does not declare the fact that he is a Muslim and this is discovered later (before he attempts to blow up the plane, that is), he should be subject to a penalty.


29 posted on 12/23/2007 7:21:05 PM PST by livius
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To: livius
Delta’s flight crews are fine, but it’s ground crews are horrible.

I was once denied boarding at DCA 35 minutes before flight time on a 737 with 3 empty seats in B and 19 in Y, because as the gate agent later told her supervisor, “I didn’t want to redo my weight and balance for a big Honky!”

I’m not kidding, and I was Medallion Gold at the time.

30 posted on 12/23/2007 7:27:32 PM PST by MindBender26 (Is FR worth our time anymore? All the "fun" sees to be gone.)
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To: wastedyears

LOL!!!

Ya think?


31 posted on 12/23/2007 7:28:51 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Flavius

Flying....”Now let me see if I understand you; by making me 100% defenseless you are making me safer?” NOT!!

Translate “An armed society is a polite society” to “An armed society is a SAFE society”; statistics from states which allow gun carrying prove this unequivocally and without exception!!

Do away with “gun-free zones”, profile males of mideastern descent, and all of a sudden the problem reduces significantly! Then the TSA could concentrate soley on bomb detection, simplifying their task.

“but some sicko might get a gun” - how much can a sicko do, or would one try, when surrounded by similarly armed folks, especially in a confined space like an airplane? DUH!

Don’t let anyone tell you a couple of bullet holes in an airplane will cause decompression, either. In reality, airplanes leak like sieves - a bullet hole is of no consequence except as a gun-grabber scare tactic!

heh-heh!!


32 posted on 12/23/2007 7:30:06 PM PST by mil-vet (the difference between democrats & terrorists is their means of destroying freedom)
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To: Sender
I recommend a stout hickory stick

In the alternative, they could continue serving that rancidness they call food....that'll get 'em, sooner or later.

33 posted on 12/23/2007 7:30:30 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: neodad
Get rid of 80% of the overweight, rude, bored, spoiled losers that work for TSA

I'd be happy if they just got rid of the Muslims and other various foreigners (apparently naturalized by executive order of the Saudi government) who think searching for terrorists means wanding the WASP's, which is kinda like the SS guarding synagogues.

34 posted on 12/23/2007 7:32:52 PM PST by Regulator (TSA = Terrorists Search Americans)
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To: Tall_Texan

lol!


35 posted on 12/23/2007 7:34:23 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: MindBender26
She was wearing her full Muslim headscarf with her uniform

I rest my case. See post 34.

36 posted on 12/23/2007 7:34:53 PM PST by Regulator (TSA = Terrorists Search Americans)
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To: yorkie; Borax Queen; fieldmarshaldj

pingeroo...just because....sometimes you gotta laugh.


37 posted on 12/23/2007 7:36:12 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: hunter112
Maybe it's just me, but the title of the article really doesn't seem to match up with the content of the article. The article seems to be about the Department of Transportation (not the TSA, specifically) asking airline passengers for suggestions about what to do on a passenger bill of rights.

spoiled sport! : )

38 posted on 12/23/2007 7:39:09 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: MindBender26

Was that in Atlanta? I will say there seems to be a bit of a racial thing (hatred of whites) in Atlanta, although that seems to be diminishing or maybe the really hostile folks are retiring.

My local post office in a town I lived in until a couple of years ago was managed by a Black Muslim who hated whites with such a passion that you barely dared to go into the branch when he was there. It was okay if he wasn’t there, but as soon as he showed up, the white employees stopped talking to anybody, and the black employees began to keep their eyes down and look embarrassed.

I remember once that one of the black employees was told by the manager to take a black customer who was further back in the line, and the employee hesitated because other (white) customers were in front of him. The manager began to insist, and it was the black customer himself who said he was fine waiting his place, and he didn’t want to go ahead. I’m sure the poor man was very embarrassed. Nasty people who have an axe to grind always make everybody else’s lives miserable.


39 posted on 12/23/2007 7:39:12 PM PST by livius
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To: ErnBatavia
Delta is that they bought all the worn out Eastern Airlines equipment,

Now that's frightening to know....I was just on a Delta flight. Maybe that explains why, flying in to LA from Salt Lake, two planes were grounded due to mechanical problems, and I ended up having to take a third plane to a completely different airport (near Burbank, instead).

40 posted on 12/23/2007 7:41:21 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

You got food? All I got was 2 bags of peanuts and a whole can of Coke. And I had to beg for the double helping.


41 posted on 12/23/2007 8:07:38 PM PST by Sender (You are the weapon. What you hold in your hand is just a tool.)
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To: Sender

No...I think you’re right...no food on Delta. (Pathetic that, I was on the planes for close 12 hours...a thing of crackers. I brought on a sandwich, otherwise, I’d have starved.)

I was thinking of the time before that, on American. They served what they called food. I about got sick once I landed. It was the most g-awful crap I ever had.


42 posted on 12/23/2007 8:09:41 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: mil-vet

The myth of the exploding pressurized a/c is everywhere.

Aircraft as so leaky that when sitting on the ramp (unpressurized) rain often leaks in.


43 posted on 12/23/2007 8:11:38 PM PST by MindBender26 (Is FR worth our time anymore? All the "fun" sees to be gone.)
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To: nicmarlo
The one time I flew to Europe on Delta, they served actual food that was edible. I guess they didn't want any lawsuits from starved passengers.

Oh sure, it was substandard and bland and lukewarm. You just can't get a decent meal for $900 (round-trip) these days;) Eat when you get there.

44 posted on 12/23/2007 8:18:56 PM PST by Sender (You are the weapon. What you hold in your hand is just a tool.)
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To: Sender

It’s absolutely ridiculous any longer the atrocious service, and especially for the amount we now pay for flights and the inconveniences. I would never have imagined a cross-country flight there would be ABSOLUTELY no food served.

Disgusting.


45 posted on 12/23/2007 8:30:53 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

Maybe they should offer an option for a decent meal for an extra $10. I can’t imagine it costs them any more than that. They have flight “gourmet” companies who can pack bulk meals for them. A couple of times, there was an option to pick up a cold “sack lunch” when boarding the plane; it was basically a dry sandwich, a tube of mayo and chips. Surely the air industry can do better than that? Maybe if passengers looked forward to an extraordinary dining experience, they would be more tolerant to the crap they put us through. Nah, maybe not. Eat when you get there.


46 posted on 12/23/2007 8:46:47 PM PST by Sender (You are the weapon. What you hold in your hand is just a tool.)
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To: Tall_Texan
What about vegetarians?:-)
47 posted on 12/23/2007 8:53:27 PM PST by QQQQ
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To: Sender

Eat before you leave, too. And pack lots of goodies. That’s what I normally do (the one time I almost became quite ill from their “food” I wasn’t able to get my food stock). I just cannot tell you how bad it tasted and smelled. They also served some kind of foul humus. And because I was absolutely starved by this point, I had no choice but to eat it. Egads. Learned my lesson....NEVER leave home without food if you’re going on a plane any longer. And to think, my grandmother, years ago, used to rave about the American Airlines food. Now, not only is their service rotten, but so is their food, if they even go beyond throwing you more than a child-sized bag of dried peanuts.


48 posted on 12/23/2007 8:53:47 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: savedbygrace
You think they can afford my training?:-))
49 posted on 12/23/2007 8:54:50 PM PST by QQQQ
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To: QQQQ

I would have no clue. Please explain.


50 posted on 12/24/2007 4:37:33 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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