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U.S. illegal immigrants 'self deport' as woes mount
Yahoo News ^ | December 23, 2007 | Tim Gaynor

Posted on 12/23/2007 7:48:16 PM PST by Clintonfatigued

Mexican illegal immigrant Lindi sat down with her husband Marco Antonio in the weeks before Christmas to decide when to go back to Mexico.

She has spent three years working as a hairdresser in and around Phoenix, but now she figures it is time to go back to her hometown of Aguascalientes in central Mexico.

"The situation has got so tough that there don't seem to be many options left for us," Lindi, who asked for her last name not to be used, told Reuters.

The couple are among a growing number of illegal immigrants across the United States who are starting to pack their bags and move on as a crackdown on undocumented immigrants widens and the U.S. economy slows, turning a traditional Christmas trek home into a one-way trip.

In the past year, U.S. immigration police have stepped up workplace sweeps across the country and teamed up with a growing number of local forces to train officers to enforce immigration laws.

Meanwhile, a bill seeking to offer many of the 12 million illegal immigrants a path to legal status was tossed by the U.S. Congress, spurring many state and local authorities to pass their own measures targeting illegal immigrants.

The toughening environment has been coupled with a turndown in the U.S. economy, which has tipped the balance toward self deportation for many illegal immigrants left struggling to find work.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Editorial
KEYWORDS: adios; aufwiedersein; bordersecurity; illegalaliens; illegals; sayonara; sobstory
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1 posted on 12/23/2007 7:48:17 PM PST by Clintonfatigued
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To: SandRat; ExTexasRedhead; fieldmarshaldj; T.L.Sink; SwinneySwitch; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; ...

If this is really true, than look for a the MSM to publish a bunch of hard luck stories about the poor, innocent “undocumented immigrants” being driven away by the mean, selfish, racist Americans.


2 posted on 12/23/2007 7:50:11 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Adios amigos


3 posted on 12/23/2007 7:50:36 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Im sure they will be back to vote in the Presidential election.


4 posted on 12/23/2007 7:52:00 PM PST by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

2 down, 13-20 million more to go. Go back, and work on getting legal. If Americans decide we need more labor, we’ll up the # of legal immigrants we allow in—but they’ll be at OUR discretion and everyone must follow due process. If have no problem with immigration but it needs to be 100% legal in accordance with US Laws.


5 posted on 12/23/2007 7:52:03 PM PST by rb22982
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To: Clintonfatigued

Good !


6 posted on 12/23/2007 7:53:13 PM PST by Mears
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To: Clintonfatigued
If this is really true, than look for a the MSM to publish a bunch of hard luck stories about the poor, innocent “undocumented immigrants” being driven away by the mean, selfish, racist Americans.

The MSM is so predictable...

7 posted on 12/23/2007 7:54:33 PM PST by GOPJ (Drug dealers are NOT "unlicensed pharmacists" and illegals are NOT "undocumented workers". Bailey)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I bet many are taking absentee ballot witht hem.


8 posted on 12/23/2007 7:55:42 PM PST by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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To: Clintonfatigued

This might help solve Mexico’s labor shortage in time to manufacture Chinese cars and build the new seaport. It will upset US businesses that thrive on cheap, subsidized labor.


9 posted on 12/23/2007 7:57:15 PM PST by pallis
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To: Clintonfatigued

Don’t let the door hit ya, where God split ya!


10 posted on 12/23/2007 7:58:58 PM PST by b4its2late (GITMO is way too nice of a place to house low life terrorists.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
"Meanwhile, a bill seeking to offer give many of the 12 million illegal immigrants a path to legal status amnesty was tossed was threatened by the a coalition of liberal Democrats and spineless RINOS in the U.S. Congress, spurring many state and local authorities to pass their own measures targeting safeguarding their communities from the costs of illegal immigrants.

There, fixed it!

11 posted on 12/23/2007 8:00:30 PM PST by hunter112 (Hillary Clinton - America’s Ex-Wife®)
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To: Clintonfatigued
I can tell you anecdotally that many Brazilians and Ecuadorians have been self-deporting from New Jersey due to the drop in the value of the dollar. The Brazilians are going back to Brazil, while the Ecuadorians are going to Italy and Spain, where they can earn in Euros (Ecuador uses the dollar as its currency, albeit without small change).

Haven't heard anything about restauranters and contractors complaining about a shortage of labor, so I assume that the local Guatemalans and Mexicans have been slower to return than the aforementioned two nationalities.

12 posted on 12/23/2007 8:03:11 PM PST by Clemenza (I NO Heart Huckabee)
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To: Clintonfatigued
She has spent three years working as a hairdresser

Yeah, no American would want to work as a hairdresser. Especially American's just getting out of school for it.

Just doing the jobs that American's are willing to do is more like it.

13 posted on 12/23/2007 8:04:03 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

“Just doing the jobs that American’s are willing to do is more like it.”

True, but illegals do commit crimes that Americans otherwise wouldn’t commit.


14 posted on 12/23/2007 8:05:45 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: GOPJ

The liberal media does this everytime when it comes to illegals:

1) sob story

2) sob story that involves LATINOS all the time.

3) sob story that involves LATINOS all the time and blames it on the ‘corrupt, racist USA”.

so predictable...


15 posted on 12/23/2007 8:10:34 PM PST by max americana
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To: Clintonfatigued

Oh, boo friggin’ hoo. My tears are dropping into my glass of tequila and every hombre knows that tequila and tears don’t mix well.

Hey, amigos, don’t let the border hit you on your donkey as you head south.


16 posted on 12/23/2007 8:22:01 PM PST by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: bcsco

Sounds good to me. Bringing to the attention of the AFIRE ping list.

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According to Intrade, the winner of the December 12th GOP debate was... Duncan Hunter.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938773/posts


17 posted on 12/23/2007 8:24:39 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Good riddance. I want them out of my country. If they want to play by the rules and come here legally, let them stand in line with everyone else and do things the right way. My mother had to do it that way, so, so should they.


18 posted on 12/23/2007 8:38:52 PM PST by ought-six
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To: Clintonfatigued

But I thought illegal immigrants have no divided loyalty towards America?...(while marching through Los Angeles streets waving a Mexican flag, chanting ‘the border crossed us’ and sending remitances to Mexico).

They’re Americans too! After all, we’re a nation of immigrants, right?


19 posted on 12/23/2007 8:54:08 PM PST by sixthousandrpm
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To: Clintonfatigued
"I want to get as far away from here as possible."

Sniff...pass me a tissue please.

20 posted on 12/23/2007 8:54:22 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: Clintonfatigued

21 posted on 12/23/2007 8:56:49 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Global Warming : A perpetuation of Lies Levied onto sheep to give up their Fleece)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Andele! Andele! Vaya con Dios!


22 posted on 12/23/2007 8:58:26 PM PST by Doctor Don
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To: Clintonfatigued

Great article!


23 posted on 12/23/2007 9:09:23 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: Clintonfatigued

And don’t let the door....


24 posted on 12/23/2007 9:12:20 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Clintonfatigued
Can’t be. Jorge and many of the current presidential candidates said that we could never hope to deport all of the illegals.
25 posted on 12/23/2007 9:53:55 PM PST by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: GATOR NAVY

And please make that all the way home.

I have lived in Phoenix for 43 years and my dad and grand dad are from here. One guy that I work for, who works for the state of AZ, told me in 2001 that AZ was going to be majority Mexican by 2008. This would have happened but 2 million Californian’s move here to get away from the “paradise” they had made in there home state.

“In Arizona, where some specially trained sheriff’s deputies already enforce immigration laws and a new state law sanctioning businesses hiring undocumented workers is due to come in to effect January 1, many illegal immigrants are eyeing a move to states they see as less hostile.”

That would be Sheriff Joe. He has about 20 or 30 guys that he had trained to do ICE enforcement so they can make arrest. This is the only enforcement in the whole state by law enforcement. None of the city police will arrest illegal.

The Worker sanction law has been opposed by all the republicans in the chamber of commerce and they have filed many lawsuits to block the bill. Rhinos all of them.

Hey want to meet my new Mexican Mormon neighbors? (They are not too bad, after two years they started to mow the grass.)


26 posted on 12/23/2007 9:59:44 PM PST by Goldwater and Gingrich
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To: Clemenza

I was in Spain for awhile this fall, and I wondered where all the Spanish people went. I was surprised how many Latin Americans were there. I think they had more than my city in the US. :) A friend of mine (dual citizen Ecuadoran/Spanish) left Ecuador and went to Spain because Ecuador’s economy is in the gutter. She was getting pretty frustrated about earning $10 per day as pediatrician. As long as the poor in Latin America keep voting in corrupt socialists, the emigration will continue.


27 posted on 12/23/2007 10:10:21 PM PST by ElectronVolt
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To: Clintonfatigued
"We can't possibly deport 12 to 20 million illegal immigrants." </establishment>
28 posted on 12/23/2007 10:12:02 PM PST by B Knotts (Anybody but Giuliani!)
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To: ElectronVolt
When I was on the Rambla in Barcelona, it seemed to me that more than half the crowd was either Latin American, Pakistani, or middle Eastern. The Raval (old red light district, now just scuzzy, west of the Rambla) has alot of folks from Pakistan.

Not as many Latin Americans in Southern Spain, due to the lack of economic opportunities relative to Madrid, Barcelona, Bilbao, etc. You see alot working in the construction industry, something you also see in Italy, to say nothing of the US.

Amazing how a relatively small country like Ecuador can send so many people abroad. The fact that you have Ecuadoran enclaves in Rome and Milan says alot.

29 posted on 12/23/2007 10:16:29 PM PST by Clemenza (I NO Heart Huckabee)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Further proof they are leaving.

LEOs getting involved.

Maybe we are, just a little, beginning to turn the corner?

30 posted on 12/23/2007 10:19:08 PM PST by upchuck (And Senator Clinton's experience is................................. where? What? When?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

As Trick Perry put it

Adios MoFo


31 posted on 12/23/2007 10:19:22 PM PST by Dov in Houston (The word Amnesty invokes a passion in me. Illegal immigrants are criminals. Supporters Aid & Abet)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Yahoo, Deportation through attrition works. If you stop giving to them, they will go. If you make life tough for them, they will go. If they feel unwanted and hunted, they will go. If they cannot work, they will go. See, Mr. Bush, just enforce the laws on the book and the illegals will go home.


32 posted on 12/23/2007 10:21:23 PM PST by Exton1
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To: max americana; All
Maybe its different on your end of the country, but here in the US, the blacks have been catered to more than any minority group. We get the national stories on the illegals, but not on "Latinos" in general.

Don't get me started on how there is NO SUCH THING as a Latino/Hispanic "race." This is purely an Anglo-American creation. When a certain Ford Foundation-supported organization with ZERO grassroots support calls itself "La Raza", they are referring to the concept of "La Raza Cosmica", from the neoHegelian Mexican philosopher Jose Vasconcelos who believed that Mexicans were a "cosmic race" combining the best of the European with the best of the Native Indian.

One of the few things I hate about my own country is our obsession with pigeonholing people into narrow racial/cultural identities. Blame the goverment and the media for this.

33 posted on 12/23/2007 10:21:32 PM PST by Clemenza (I NO Heart Huckabee)
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To: Clintonfatigued
If this is really true...

If it is true, I doubt it is representative of reality.

34 posted on 12/23/2007 10:22:05 PM PST by BJungNan
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To: Clintonfatigued

Tim Gaynor is a primary illegal immigrant apologist posing as a journalist.

he is also know the blow pedophile Daniel Ortega in his spare time


35 posted on 12/23/2007 10:30:29 PM PST by wardaddy (I have come to the conclusion that even though imperfect....Thompson is my choice by far.)
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To: Clemenza

I don’t know if we are to blame for “pigeonholing” or not- I for one am downright confused about what to call any group of people these days- used to be you could just call a racial group what most of them wanted to be called, but they kept changing that every few years, and still are changing terms so if we make up something to call them maybe it’s just self defense.

I have been called a racist for referring to citizens of Mexico as Mexicans- so I am just lost.


36 posted on 12/23/2007 10:51:39 PM PST by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
"The situation has got so tough that there don't seem to be many options left for us,"

In other words, the most effective way to eliminate a pest is to cut off its food supply.

Ants, rats, mice, sharks or illegal immigrants, the principle is the same.

37 posted on 12/23/2007 10:57:16 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (How come the winner of the Miss Universe Pageant always comes from Earth?)
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To: Tammy8
Anyone who calls you a racist for calling Mexican citizens "Mexicans" should have been held back a year in school, at least.

If many of the Mexican American (born in the USA) acquaintances/girlfriends I have had over the years don't object to being referred to as "Mexican", then it defies common sense not to refer to Mexican citizens as Mexicans.

Of course, here in NJ, we still have 3rd generation Americans who call themselves "Italian" even though they neither speak the language, nor have even set foot in Italy, but that's a whole 'nother story.

So, remember, you are right, THEY are wrong (and just plain stupid).

38 posted on 12/23/2007 10:57:45 PM PST by Clemenza (I NO Heart Huckabee)
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To: Clintonfatigued

The media sure is singlemindedly pushing this myth of “bad economy.” They are all on the same page for defeating the Republican candidate in 08.


39 posted on 12/23/2007 11:04:34 PM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts (God bless our soldiers))
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
the most effective way to eliminate a pest is to cut off its food supply.

Actually we find giving them food with arsenic in it is superior for getting rid of ants than trying to lock up and seal everything in the house, because then they still come in for water and a look around.

40 posted on 12/23/2007 11:10:28 PM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts (God bless our soldiers))
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To: Clintonfatigued
The couple are among a growing number of illegal immigrants aliens across the United States who are starting to pack their bags and move on as a crackdown on undocumented immigrants illegal aliens widens and the U.S. economy slows, turning a traditional Christmas trek home into a one-way trip

There, fixed the story for the truth-challenged journalist who wrote it.

41 posted on 12/23/2007 11:16:29 PM PST by stripes1776 ("I will not be persuaded that any good can come from Arabia" --Petrarca)
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To: Clintonfatigued
This is the only approach that will work.

People get so hot and bothered over silly scenarios that satisfy emotions--round 'em up! Use the military to go door-to-door and take 'em away!--but will never, ever work on a practical level, because Americans simply do not want to see endless MSM imagery of weeping Mexicans and others being dragged out into the street by their military.

That is how liberals deal with problems--by taking the route that satisfies some emotion.

The only effective way to do this is to dry up the reason why the illegals come and stay in the first place--make it so that any employer who suspects an illegal is applying for work will toss the person out the door without a second's hesitation.

And the "self-deportations" aka leaving, will begin.

42 posted on 12/23/2007 11:20:56 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist hoping everyone has a Merry CHRISTmas!)
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To: Clintonfatigued
"It is still just a thought, although we are preparing to leave," said Ernesto Garcia, a carpenter from Caborca in northwest Mexico, who stood in line at the Mexican consulate in Phoenix this week for paperwork that will allow him and his family to resume their lives south of the border.........

Huh, what's up with THAT!

Are you, Yahoo News, telling me Mexicans have to stand in line to get paperwork that allows them back into their own country to live and work, after coming here and doing the same thing without "paperwork?"

43 posted on 12/24/2007 1:39:19 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: truemiester

I just hope they take those ugly Mexican flags with them.


44 posted on 12/24/2007 1:44:29 AM PST by Duke Nukum (He burns at the center of time and he sees the turn of the Universe.)
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To: zerosix

great catch!...I dont understand this but...is the lowlife scumbag guv of Mexico blocking re entry?


45 posted on 12/24/2007 1:45:46 AM PST by rrrod
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To: rrrod
"......Mexican consular sources in Phoenix say they are seeing a spike in the number of immigrants applying for Mexican citizenship for their U.S.-born children, which will allow them to enroll in schools in Mexico.
(Hmmm, here they merely plop them out and "presto" they be citizens.)

They are also seeing a rise in requests for papers enabling families to carry household belongings back to Mexico, free of import duties.

Last time I noticed, Mexicans didn't have to get "papers enabling families to carry household belongings......into the U.S.

Jeez, read this article and Mexico almost sounds like Hitler's Germany, what with "permission to make one's own children citizens" and "papers to bring one's own belongings."

Of course, it's all about taxation and money (er, pesos,) South of the Border.

46 posted on 12/24/2007 2:05:04 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Many of these people worked very hard and well. The U.S. housing boom, which wasn’t all bad by any means, wouldn’t have been possible without them.

That said, I think the immigration occurred because of the economy and, likewise, migration back to their home countries will occur because of the economy.

In that sense, the market probably has more to do with the problem of illegal immigration than anything else.


47 posted on 12/24/2007 3:10:24 AM PST by fightinJAG ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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To: ElectronVolt

What has happened to the Spanish population in Spain?


48 posted on 12/24/2007 3:13:59 AM PST by fightinJAG ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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To: zerosix

Good catch!


49 posted on 12/24/2007 3:17:19 AM PST by fightinJAG ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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To: zerosix

BTW, you know the Mexican government is really sweating this, as money sent back from the U.S. is a huge part of their economy.

Maybe Mexico will start denying re-entry or permanent work permits to its citizens.


50 posted on 12/24/2007 3:18:28 AM PST by fightinJAG ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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