Posted on 12/25/2007 6:24:47 AM PST by Zakeet
What an idiot. He has no business even being a priest, let alone a bishop, let alone the Archbishop of Canterbury.
Uh, you do realize that the Pope said something not so different, right?
“What would he say if he could see the state of the world today, through the abuse of energy and its selfish and reckless exploitation?”
Look, I realize that there are plenty of envirowackos who take things way too far in the other direction, but it seems like some people around here demonstrate an active hostility towards the environment, and I’m not sure I get it.....
The Church of England is smaller than the Catholics now in the UK and the Episcopalian Church in the USA is following suit.
As for the environment, the church should stay out of this discussion. One because it's still junk science, so far, and two, because the church should be working on souls and helping people, and staying out of politics. I'm not saying to trash the environment nor abuse nature. I AM saying it requires a lot of gall to think we have the ability to ultimately change something like this and only a radical leftist would blame mankind and the USA in particular for environmental problems. What amazes me is how some people will buy into these wacko theories without the least bit of skepticism.
Did you read the information on FR earlier today, talking about how a woman was chastized for using the word Christmas? The punch line being, she was working at “The Christmas Tree” store.
Merry Christmas.
“The shepherds attended the birth of Jesus. The wise men came after Jesus was already a toddler and living in a different city.”
Neither nativity tradition in the Gospels (and they are both seperate and not particularly complimetary with each other) says this.
Luke has shepherds attending the birth which occurs in Bethlehem, the couple having journeyed from Nazareth and staying in a stable. They then leave and return directly to Nazareth. No wise men or Egypt detour.
Matthew has the couple living in a house in Bethlehem (no stable or shepherds), then the Wise Men come to Bethlehem as directed. After they leave the family flee to Egypt and then later move to Nazareth.
“No wonder Tony switched!”
I don’t think this is the reason, this sermon sounds like something he’d completely agree with.
“As for the environment, the church should stay out of this discussion. One because it’s still junk science, so far, and two, because the church should be working on souls and helping people, and staying out of politics. I’m not saying to trash the environment nor abuse nature. I AM saying it requires a lot of gall to think we have the ability to ultimately change something like this and only a radical leftist would blame mankind and the USA in particular for environmental problems. What amazes me is how some people will buy into these wacko theories without the least bit of skepticism.”
You are confusing “global warming/climate change” with “the environment.” Much of the research on global warming is, indeed, junk science. Only a radical leftist would blame mankind and the USA in particular for global warming (if it even exists).
There has been, however, plenty of legitimate, real-science work done on the environment. And, historically, there has been tremendous damage to the environment (in the form of groundwater pollution, etc) caused by mankind, inside and outside of the US. That is, quite simply, indisputable.
And, about the church’s role - correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that the Bible says that man is given dominion over the world. That, I believe, does not mean that we can do what we want with it, but rather that we have a theological/spiritual obligation to use the world’s resources responsibly. It is, then, arguably the church’s role to encourage us to do so.
I don’t know enough about the Church of England to dispute your argument, but how is this statement - essentially saying that we should consider the environmental implications of our actions - non-Christian?
And Anglicanism continues its death spiral downward...
hahah, she was working at the Christmas store? hahah. The great thing — our son is 21, at Univ of Colorado/Boulder. He said his cohorts think PC is ridiculous. That gives me great hope.
Sorry, this is just not worth an arguement.
Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas!
Boulder remains a strange place. Congratulations on your son withstanding the pressures there. If nothing else, your son can see first hand what the left has in store for the rest of us, as well as the character of the individuals he hears it from.
There IS an active chapter of Young Republicans on that campus. I hope he checks it out if he’s inclined to get involved.
If he’s there today, he is probably off skiing someplace.
Here’s the link if you want a good chuckle today.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1943960/posts
I’ll mention Young Republicans. He’s not particularly activist at this time, holed up with computer science. And snowboarding. However, he is in Los Angeles this week, warming up and decompressing.
He has brought home some liberal blather, but there is a lot of common sense here and not much tolerance for that sort of thing. My husband challenges just about every out-there statement he makes, in a solid and thoughtful way. Doing our part to de-program him.
He had announced himself to be a “Libertarian who votes Republican,” and I don’t think anything will root that out. This is one strong-minded (homeschooled) kid.
You might ask him to consider using his talents with computers to help them, if he has the time or inclination. I’ve met some of these kids and they are really nice. Active, yes.
I am a fairly tolerant person but I think my tolerance level has been reached.
I have not been to mass (except for last night) for months. I wouldn’t have gone last night except that it would have disappointed my son, but I really did not enjoy it.
It’s hard to give up on your religion of 40 years, but realistically, I think it’s given up on common sense.
Just this past week, the Archbishop said that accounts of Christ’s birth, as related in the Gospels, were untrue. Thus, we have an Archbishop who believes the gospel of algore, but not Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Perhaps I’m too narrow-minded and old-fashioned, but if these are your beliefs, you are not a Christian.
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