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Homeland Security Contracts KBR to Build Detention Centers in the US
projectcensored.org ^ | 2007.12.25 | Editorial Staff

Posted on 12/25/2007 7:06:18 PM PST by B-Chan

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To: Slump Tester
Re: "In the sixties there were rumors going around about old WW2 internment camps (”relocation centers”) being readied for thousands of hippies."

Do you remember if that was out of the (leftist) underground press and such?

I kept up pretty much with the right wing stuff and right now I cannot recall hearing those rumors.

61 posted on 12/25/2007 8:49:37 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: bcsco; sono

(Cough) Ping


62 posted on 12/25/2007 8:52:07 PM PST by AliVeritas (ah, the sheer grace! in darkness and concealment, my house being now all stilled.)
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To: BGHater
I want what is necessary and no more than that and only for the length of time it is necessary.

That's all I expect and all anyone should expect.

Governments do grow on a par with the society, so that reality is something I accept. I think this is what irks you about my position, but it irks all the small g libertines.

I am a realist and understand the reality that people get the government they want in relation to plurality and outside forces.. It's not realistic to believe that I will get the government that I want. I'm not going to get bent out of shape over something that is out of my direct control. I can only participate in a limited number of votes.

We have nearly 400 million various jerks in this country and everyone has a different opinion it seems.

We somehow manage.

63 posted on 12/25/2007 8:54:44 PM PST by Cold Heat (Mitt....2008)
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To: Cold Heat
First I’m not a libertarian.

Second, you espouse fabianism. Thats not popular here.

Have a nice day.

64 posted on 12/25/2007 9:00:27 PM PST by BGHater (If Guns Cause Crime Then Matches Cause Arson?)
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To: Cold Heat
It reflects the costs of doing business in a war zone. This is why KBR is doing it. They are the best at it and yes, they do get paid.

Thanks.

I'm not scratching my noggin because they're getting paid a lot of money for doing what they do. I have no idea whether or not they are the best nor do I know whether or not $27.00 per served meal is a fair deal for both KBR and the U.S. government.

With respect to providing food services, what I'm wondering is whether or not the contract really reflects the cost (to us) of doing food business in a war zone. The $27 only reflects what KBR is being paid for preparing and serving each meal. The real cost per meal served is KBR's food service contract plus all the procurement and distribution activities required to get the food where it needs to be.

(I did wince when I understood that at that price per meal KBR wasn't managing the entire work flow.)

With respect to this thread, remembering our dinner conversation sorta drove home the point that KBR's $385 million dollar contract may not be all that useful information without knowing what activities KBR does NOT perform that we might otherwise assume it ought to include. KBR might be getting up to $385 million but the actual cost to us may be much, much higher.

65 posted on 12/25/2007 9:01:32 PM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: wastedyears

Seems to be.


66 posted on 12/25/2007 9:04:14 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: BGHater
Second, you espouse fabianism. Thats not popular here.

Hint: Cold Heat has been around since Sep 2001. You just arrived as of April 2007. I think he might already know what is popular and what is not. :-)

67 posted on 12/25/2007 9:06:24 PM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: B-Chan

I think they are worried about the reaction of Americans if they pass amnesty against our protests. They KNOW how angry we are. Just in case things get ‘out of hand’ they will need a place to contain us.


68 posted on 12/25/2007 9:07:02 PM PST by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: tlb
RE: I remember when . . . Y2K . . . .

I don't know about internment but the Clintons' Y2K worries about terrorist threats to the Union were pretty much summed up by Project Megiddo.

I recall a news story of the FBI moving a very large number of agents to confront the "white supremacists" as they (presumably) poured out of their churches at 00:01 on the first day of January 2000.

Obviously the Clintonists were a bit paranoid about their political opposition lumping us all in with the "white supremacists" but they were cool with Osama.

Today the real enemy is finally(!) acknowledged. So yes I hope plans for internment are well under way, it may be needed.

69 posted on 12/25/2007 9:14:15 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: BGHater
See, they are already after me. Just look what they did to my fonts. WTH.

LOL! I think that's caused by the FR font monsters. :o)

70 posted on 12/25/2007 9:17:22 PM PST by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: B-Chan

This might make sense if one or both of two scenarios takes place. Either Mexico suffers from an economic collapse or a civil war. So the question becomes how likely are either of these events to take place?

Currently Mexico has several major potential insurrections, any of which could be funded with perhaps billions of dollars from the drug cartels. More likely though is a major international economic catastrophe that causes a collapse of their economy.

Ordinarily, the US could absorb several hundred thousand people nationwide in a short period of time. However, if either the US economy had also been strongly damaged in an economic collapse, or if the number exceeded one or more million people, or if an armed insurrectionist movement came with the economic refugees, it would require a major federal response.

But were this the case, hastily erected camps policed by a small number of guards could handle most problems on the short term. Camps holding tens of thousands of people could be erected quickly, then improved once occupied. Such camps take surprisingly limited area.

So why build high quality contracted camps, the only purpose for which would be to provide *better* than minimal accommodations?

Indeed, such camps might be built based on theoretical evacuation from natural disasters. If you took a map of the US, and assumed that a natural disaster was inevitable, you could figure out where to put camps that could handle the evacuees from major metropolitan areas.

For example, major earthquakes will eventually happen both in California and along the New Madrid fault line. In the case of California, most of the State is susceptible to quakes and their aftershocks, so several camps would be needed outside of the major quake zones, for either the Los Angeles or San Francisco areas. They wouldn’t need to hold the entire population, as most people would stay there. But tens or hundreds of thousands of people would need to leave for a least a temporary basis.

A different case would be based on the Katrina disaster. If there were substantial camps already in place for the evacuees of New Orleans, they could have a much more stable existence faster than they did. Instead of being dispersed over several States and putting a great strain on all of their resources, resources could have been sent to them.

Such camps could have had dining, medical, school for the children, the Red Cross, a centralized location for aid, and a more rapid provision of disaster insurance.

Eventually another disaster like any of those will hit, so being prepared might be the reason for this in the first place.


71 posted on 12/25/2007 9:32:51 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: B-Chan

I read years ago that detention centers would be used to house Christians during the tribulation period and perhaps before. Interesting that this should come up now.


72 posted on 12/25/2007 9:38:23 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Quix

Exactly! I read that some time ago and believe it.


73 posted on 12/25/2007 9:39:39 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: cripplecreek

74 posted on 12/25/2007 9:51:02 PM PST by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: B-Chan
“Foundations are in place for martial law in the US",

Don't let this get out, but I've heard that plans are set to begin the roundup in mid Oct '08, in Pelosy's district plus Nevada, and FL and OH depending on the Sept. Presidential Polls.

75 posted on 12/25/2007 9:54:42 PM PST by matthew fuller (The destruction of the CIA tapes was indubitably intentional obstruction of treason.)
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To: Travis McGee
Right...I've seen some pictures you've been posted lately...
76 posted on 12/25/2007 10:03:36 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: davetex

LOL!


77 posted on 12/26/2007 4:46:27 AM PST by lonestar
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
"Do you remember if that was out of the (leftist) underground press and such?"

I would say it came from the left wing. I've read about it in books about Haight-Ashbury and the freak scene. (This was back when LSD was still legal.)

I'm a Frank Zappa fan (he was anti-drug), and I've heard him mention it in interviews too.

78 posted on 12/26/2007 4:57:34 AM PST by Slump Tester (-What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Marysecretary

Thanks for your kind msg.

God’s best to you and your loved ones in the New Year.

LUB,
BLPH,


79 posted on 12/26/2007 5:47:28 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: B-Chan
Black helicopters!

White SUVs!

Concentration Camps!

Boxcars!

I miss Michael Rivero.

80 posted on 12/26/2007 5:52:33 AM PST by CholeraJoe ("At last my arm is complete!" Sweeney Todd)
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