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Drugs to build up that mental muscle[Brain Doping]
LA Times ^ | 20 Dec 2007 | Karen Kaplan and Denise Gellene

Posted on 12/28/2007 6:51:24 AM PST by BGHater

Academics, musicians, even poker champs use pills to sharpen their minds, legally. Labs race to develop even more.

Forget sports doping. The next frontier is brain doping.

As Major League Baseball struggles to rid itself of performance-enhancing drugs, people in a range of other fields are reaching for a variety of prescription pills to enhance what counts most in modern life.

Despite the potential side effects, academics, classical musicians, corporate executives, students and even professional poker players have embraced the drugs to clarify their minds, improve their concentration or control their emotions.

"There isn't any question about it -- they made me a much better player," said Paul Phillips, 35, who credited the attention deficit drug Adderall and the narcolepsy pill Provigil with helping him earn more than $2.3 million as a poker player.

The medicine cabinet of so-called cognitive enhancers also includes Ritalin, commonly given to schoolchildren for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, and beta blockers, such as the heart drug Inderal. Researchers have been investigating the drug Aricept, which is normally used to slow the decline of Alzheimer's patients.

The drugs haven't been tested extensively in healthy people, but their physiological effects in the brain are well understood.

They are all just precursors to the blockbuster drug that labs are racing to develop.

"Whatever company comes out with the first memory pill is going to put Viagra to shame," said University of Pennsylvania bioethicist Paul Root Wolpe.

Unlike the anabolic steroids, human growth hormone and blood-oxygen boosters that plague athletic competitions, the brain drugs haven't provoked similar outrage. People who take them say the drugs aren't giving them an unfair advantage but merely allow them to make the most of their hard-earned skills.


(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: brain; doping; drugs; mental
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1 posted on 12/28/2007 6:51:26 AM PST by BGHater
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To: BGHater

Churchill used Claret.


2 posted on 12/28/2007 6:53:58 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: BGHater

So how long until we hear about the great College Bowl doping scandal? Mandatory drug testing for the debate team? Contestants on “Jeopardy” having to give their prizes back because they were found to have beta blockers in their system?

}:-)4


3 posted on 12/28/2007 6:55:15 AM PST by Moose4 (Wasting away again in Michaelnifongville.)
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To: massgopguy
Churchill used Claret.

So much more civilized.

4 posted on 12/28/2007 6:56:41 AM PST by 6SJ7
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To: BGHater

Smart pills. Yes! Tell me we don’t need those as a species, as a society.


5 posted on 12/28/2007 6:56:48 AM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: Moose4
'Rat politicians would demand drug testing before voting because any drugs making people smarter and more able to pay attention would make them unfairly more Republican.
6 posted on 12/28/2007 6:58:58 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Government is the hired help - not the boss. When politicians forget that they must be fired.)
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To: BGHater

So adderall increases attention AND DECREASES APPETITE? Where do I get it????


7 posted on 12/28/2007 6:59:05 AM PST by Fawn (Will a REAL CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE please enter the race!!)
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To: BGHater
Hmmm... this tale comes to mind...

A poor door-to-door salesman had no products to sell and no money to buy stock. As he was walking along, he saw a pile of deer droppings and decided to sell them as ‘Smart Pills’. The first person he came to tried one and said “Yuck that tastes like shit.” "See", the salesman replied, "the’re working already.”

8 posted on 12/28/2007 6:59:21 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: BGHater

I’m guessing NBA and the NFL won’t be testing for this stuff any time soon.


9 posted on 12/28/2007 7:00:14 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: massgopguy



"Well ya see, Norm, it's like this. A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo.
And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members. In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, as we know, kills brain cells. But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine! That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers........."

10 posted on 12/28/2007 7:00:25 AM PST by itsamelman (Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh. - - Al Swearengen)
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To: BGHater

That “Mental Boosters” list is bogus, it does not include beer?


11 posted on 12/28/2007 7:01:14 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: BGHater

This is an article from the UK, but Ritalin use is also rampant in US colleges. No more using caffeine to get an edge for “cramming for exams”...just pop a Ritalin.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/6766847.stm


12 posted on 12/28/2007 7:07:11 AM PST by dawn53
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To: BGHater

Years ago I read about “Diapid” a nasal spray that worked like that.
Also, choline and lecithin.


13 posted on 12/28/2007 7:07:49 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: AmericaUnited
Courtesy comment:

I understand that it is reported in Iowa that Hillary was spotted taking some round soft green steaming pills the other day just before a campaign stop.

Could these be the same Deer pills you speak of?

She certainly has been very Shiite(y) with her audiences especially when it comes to taking questions.

14 posted on 12/28/2007 7:10:30 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: TruthWillWin
That “Mental Boosters” list is bogus, it does not include beer?

Courtesy comment:

Nor did it include money.

15 posted on 12/28/2007 7:12:25 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: BGHater

Where’s Viagra on this list?


16 posted on 12/28/2007 7:12:31 AM PST by Moleman
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To: BGHater

17 posted on 12/28/2007 7:17:00 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: BGHater

I used Modafinil in Iraq. Worked well for alertness and concentration during the 14+ hr. shifts.


18 posted on 12/28/2007 7:21:35 AM PST by Justa (Politically Correct is morally wrong.)
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To: BGHater

Being serious, this sounds like something I should try.


19 posted on 12/28/2007 7:22:55 AM PST by wastedyears (Merry Christmas, FReepers)
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To: BGHater

We need to confiscate the entire stock of intelligence enhancing drugs just to get the current crop of Repubs and Dhimmicrats presidential candidates up to normal IQ. Gads, what have we wrought with these clowns? (Fred excepted, of course.)


20 posted on 12/28/2007 7:24:15 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: dawn53
> Ritalin use is also rampant in US colleges. No more using caffeine to get an edge for “cramming for exams”...just pop a Ritalin. <

Nothing really new. When I was in college some 50 years ago, the appetite suppressant Dexadrene (spelling?) was extremely popular during exam week. I believe it's another variety of methamphetamine.

21 posted on 12/28/2007 7:26:20 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: massgopguy

> Churchill used Claret. <

Not only that:

He also used cigars!

(Not sure if he inhaled, but wouldn’t be surprised to learn he did!)


22 posted on 12/28/2007 7:27:46 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: BGHater
"Whatever company comes out with the first memory pill is going to put..."

Women remember everything you ever did wrong just fine, no matter how small the incident.

23 posted on 12/28/2007 7:29:06 AM PST by Deaf Smith
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To: Deaf Smith
Heh, don’t forgot that they have recently developed a ‘forgot’ pill.
24 posted on 12/28/2007 7:31:13 AM PST by BGHater (If Guns Cause Crime Then Matches Cause Arson?)
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To: BGHater

Using speed to stay alert? Shocking!


25 posted on 12/28/2007 7:34:33 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: BGHater
My first thought on seeing the headline was, "Charlie Gordon".
26 posted on 12/28/2007 7:36:02 AM PST by LIConFem (Thompson. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter Lifetime ACU Rating: 92 (any combo will do, fellas))
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To: BGHater

Doesn’t nicotine also fall into this category? The combustion byproduct delivery method is a dismal failure but I wonder if there is a politically incorrect upside to the drug.


27 posted on 12/28/2007 7:36:10 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: BGHater

28 posted on 12/28/2007 7:45:40 AM PST by bmwcyle (BOMB, BOMB, BOMB,.......BOMB, BOMB IRAN)
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To: Fawn
So adderall increases attention AND DECREASES APPETITE? Where do I get it????

Pretty much any college campus in the USA.

jas3
29 posted on 12/28/2007 7:47:53 AM PST by jas3
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To: Hawthorn

I used to use 120 mg of Sudafed when I was cramming for finals in college, many many years ago. Made me brilliant—but later I didn’t remember a thing I’d studied.


30 posted on 12/28/2007 8:12:07 AM PST by ottbmare
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To: NonValueAdded

Nicotine helps to block outside stimuli like noise, thus increasing focus.


31 posted on 12/28/2007 9:02:40 AM PST by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: martin_fierro
I was taking Ginko Biloba for awhile, 30mg per day. One morning I had a class on analytical troubleshooting and grabbed the fresh bottle of Ginko I'd purchased the night before. I swallowed three of them and off I went. About an hour or so later, in class, I started feeling anxious and depressed. It got so bad I left class and went to sit in a corner. After a couple of hours it mostly wore off and I was able to function again.

After I got home I checked the bottle of Ginko. They were 30mg pills, not the 10mg I had taken them to be. I took a triple dose which amounted to an overdose for me.

32 posted on 12/28/2007 9:12:26 AM PST by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: dawn53

There’s little evidence to suggest that Ritalin carries any more potential for harmful side effects than caffeine. An excess of either one can be dangerous, though caffeine seems to be more prone to causing emergency room visits and hospitalizations, probably just because people perceive it to be “safe” and don’t exercise caution in the amount they use. Not that it’s really possible to measure caffeine intake, since few if any of the caffeinated beverages on the market indicate how much caffeine they contain, even though some are loaded with really dangerous amounts. At least Ritalin and Adderall are sold in tablets containing precisely labelled and disclosed amounts.


33 posted on 12/28/2007 9:27:15 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: BGHater

bmflr

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According to Intrade, the winner of the December 12th GOP debate was... Duncan Hunter.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938773/posts

Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts

In this poll Hunter is up 3% and even with Paul and Thompson.
http://www.wxyz.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=3481ef60-8195-46a9-af04-b87b907bcfdd


34 posted on 12/28/2007 9:27:48 AM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: dawn53

Energy Drinks’ Caffeine Buzz Can Land the Unwary in the ER
http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/833954/energy_drinks_caffeine_buzz_can_land_the_unwary_in_the/index.html?source=r_health


35 posted on 12/28/2007 9:27:49 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Max in Utah
Nicotine helps to block outside stimuli like noise, thus increasing focus.

So do foam rubber ear plugs.

36 posted on 12/28/2007 9:28:59 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Yes, I wear those occaisionally in the office; it helps to cut down on my smoking.


37 posted on 12/28/2007 9:55:16 AM PST by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Bon mots

Diapid had the unfortunate side effect of sometimes causing cardiac arrest in young, healthy people. The safe smart drugs are hydergine, centrophenoxine, ginkgo, vinpocetine, and memantine. See Dr. Ward Dean’s book “Mind Food and Smart Pills”. Hydergine has a side effect; it made the lab rats live longer than the control group!


38 posted on 12/28/2007 10:07:01 AM PST by darth
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To: darth
Diapid had the unfortunate side effect of sometimes causing cardiac arrest in young, healthy people. The safe smart drugs are hydergine, centrophenoxine, ginkgo, vinpocetine, and memantine. See Dr. Ward Dean’s book “Mind Food and Smart Pills”. Hydergine has a side effect; it made the lab rats live longer than the control group!

Thanks!

39 posted on 12/28/2007 10:08:30 AM PST by Bon mots (I)
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To: Max in Utah
Yes, I wear those occaisionally in the office; it helps to cut down on my smoking.

Putting the used cigarette filters in your ears works better.

:-)

40 posted on 12/28/2007 10:15:10 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: BGHater
the first memory pill is going to put Viagra to shame,"

To be successful, they will have to be taken together. That way the next morning you will be able to remember what the previous night was like........and the reason for the erection thats lasting over 4 hours.

41 posted on 12/28/2007 10:17:01 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Visions of sugarplums dancing in your head are probably caused by bad drugs.....)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Hey, thanks for the tip!

:)

42 posted on 12/28/2007 10:41:18 AM PST by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: darth

I’ve tried Hydergine for a month at a time, 4mg/day, but it didn’t seem to have any effect. What’s an effective dose supposed to be?


43 posted on 12/28/2007 10:43:32 AM PST by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: massgopguy
Churchill used Claret.

and port and champagne and brandy and scotch

44 posted on 12/28/2007 10:59:23 AM PST by skeptoid
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To: BGHater

Does coffee count as a drug anymore?


45 posted on 12/28/2007 11:01:23 AM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: Hawthorn

Vick’s inhalers were supposedly somewhat popular until they were taken off the market.


46 posted on 12/28/2007 11:03:58 AM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: Max in Utah

Probably the anticoagulent effect causing mini strokes.


47 posted on 12/28/2007 11:05:55 AM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Although you can definately overdose on caffeine, scientists have not been able to pin any problems to long term use of caffeine.

I have seen the results of long term amphetamine use.

You really can’t compare the two.


48 posted on 12/28/2007 11:14:46 AM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: dangerdoc

It’s not as if all amphetamines are the same. I’m not aware of any documented evidence of long term problems resulting from use of methylphenidate (though presumably massively excessive doses could cause harm similar to caffeine). Ritalin is not meth.


49 posted on 12/28/2007 11:18:31 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: darth; Bon mots

I’ve used most of those (except the Diapid)in the past and they were effective for me. Financial issues led to my discontinuing them


50 posted on 12/28/2007 11:36:42 AM PST by Uriah_lost ("I don't apologize for the United States of America," -Fred D Thompson)
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