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Minneapolis ousts Seattle as most literate city
Seattle Times ^ | Sandi Doughton

Posted on 12/28/2007 8:00:52 AM PST by Cagey

Like a top-heavy tower of books, Seattle tumbled from its ranking as "America's Most Literate City" this year.

The new winner: Minneapolis, ending Seattle's two-year reign on top.

The Emerald City only slipped to second place, but some of the local literati took it hard.

"I don't believe it," said Tracy Taylor, general manager for Elliott Bay Book Co. in Pioneer Square, which was bursting with post-Christmas customers Thursday. "And we're not even having a sale," Taylor noted.

But the statistics don't lie — even though they also don't capture all the nuances of what makes one city more literate than another, said Mark McLaughlin, spokesman for Central Connecticut State University, which compiles the annual list.

"We can only provide a kind of macro look."

The rankings, originated and authored by CCSU's president John W. Miller, compare the country's 69 biggest cities in terms of libraries, bookstores, educational levels, newspaper readership, locally published magazines and Internet resources.

Seattle continues to lead the nation in number of bookstores per 10,000 people and in the percentage of adult residents with high-school diplomas and bachelor's degrees or higher.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: 2007review; cities; literacy; minneapolis; seattle; topten Comment #1 Removed by Moderator

To: Cagey

Literate or liberal?


2 posted on 12/28/2007 8:01:41 AM PST by GQuagmire (Giggety,Giggety,Giggety)
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Understandable.

Minneapolis: It’s so cold you can only spend time outdoors a few days a year.

Seattle: It’s so rainy you can only sped time outdoors a few days a year.


3 posted on 12/28/2007 8:01:58 AM PST by Cagey
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To: GQuagmire

I guess adult bookstores count.


4 posted on 12/28/2007 8:04:11 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: Cagey
5. Washington, D.C.

Hard to believe.

5 posted on 12/28/2007 8:05:12 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: GQuagmire

neener, neener!
6 posted on 12/28/2007 8:07:17 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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Well, I know they're both more literate than most places in Georgia, where you get conversations like:

Boy at Flea Market: But Washington's just one place.
Girl at Flea Market: No, I'm pretty sure there's two. Washington DC is over here, Washington state is over there.

I wish Augusta was a more educated locale.
7 posted on 12/28/2007 8:08:24 AM PST by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: Cagey
Free Republic's copyright rules requires that all Seattle Times articles are to be excerpted and linked.

Updated FR Excerpt and Link Only or Deny Posting List due to Copyright Complaints

Your post where you continued the excerpted article has been removed.

8 posted on 12/28/2007 8:08:33 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

Understood. I had thought that chart could be in a reply section.


9 posted on 12/28/2007 8:10:15 AM PST by Cagey
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To: Mr. Mojo

Coffee tables.


10 posted on 12/28/2007 8:12:56 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Old Professer

I guess Minneapolis is just too cold for our migratory illiterates from the country to the immediate south.


11 posted on 12/28/2007 8:15:07 AM PST by Adams
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To: Cagey

You beat me to it!


12 posted on 12/28/2007 8:16:43 AM PST by reg45
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To: GQuagmire

Literate in what, the Koran?


13 posted on 12/28/2007 8:17:11 AM PST by montag813
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To: arderkrag

Do you remember during the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta when a phone operator claimed that New Mexico was not in the United States?


14 posted on 12/28/2007 8:19:31 AM PST by groanup (When companies fail they go out of business. When a gov't project fails it gets bigger. M.F.)
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To: GQuagmire

I know why. Seattle’s new tourist slogan is “Metronatural”.


15 posted on 12/28/2007 8:20:36 AM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: montag813

Amen Brother Amen.


16 posted on 12/28/2007 8:21:06 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: groanup

Wow. No, but it doesn’t surprise me.


17 posted on 12/28/2007 8:24:20 AM PST by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: GQuagmire

Please check this box if you are illiterate: _____

Those who could not read used the surveys to line the cages for their pit bulls.


18 posted on 12/28/2007 8:28:22 AM PST by AbeKrieger (Dear Democrats: Please nominate Barack Hussein Obama.)
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To: Adams

Be assured, they’re here. I’m guessing they don’t read much. Cursory observations show that they spend their earnings on grooming (hair color and other frivolous things that I never thought to buy/do, mullets for the boys), cars larger than their means should allow, CDs, etc.. However, they are illiterate (even in their own tongue), so its dubious that they read much.


19 posted on 12/28/2007 8:28:31 AM PST by definitelynotaliberal
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To: GQuagmire

Minneapolis literate?

Seattle literate?

Who makes these judgments, anyway. Cities cannot, by their very nature, be “literate”. Only people can.

And in both those towns, there are an awful lot of people who are willfully ignorant, which if they were truly literate, would be something of an oxymoron.

You cannot be literate if ignorant.


20 posted on 12/28/2007 8:28:40 AM PST by alloysteel (Ignorance is no handicap for some people in a debate. They just get more shrill.)
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To: GQuagmire
Bad statistical base ~ notice the issue of locally published magazines and journals ~ NEW YORK CITY has been &1 in that category for the last 100+ years. Presently about 40% of all periodicals published in the United States have their original office of publication in that city.

When it comes to nonprofit organizations, each of which publish something, all the national organizations publish their news letters in or around Washington DC.

A simple reweighting of their data elements in favor of periodicals and newsletters would make New York %1 and Washington DC #2. Seattle and Minneapolis would fall to the bottom of the list. Actually NOBODY BUT NOBODY runs any of their nonprofits out of Seattle, and I can't imagine anyone actually having a printing plant in that part of the world.

21 posted on 12/28/2007 8:41:44 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: GQuagmire
I've lived in Seattle for 45 years.

It deserves the title of the "Most Effete Liberal City In America"*

Along with that...the "Most Metrosexual City In America"*

And it's getting worse....our Mayor and City Council all belong to the those cliques.

*With the possible exception of San Francisco

22 posted on 12/28/2007 9:31:55 AM PST by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out Of Qurans)
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To: groanup
I actually had the same problem with my wife while watching the Dem debate (for comedy effect) and talking about Bill Richardson being Governor of New Mexico.

But with my wife she didn't think New Mexico wasn't part of the United States, she just had this odd temporary mental block and forgot New Mexico even existed.

23 posted on 12/28/2007 9:35:59 AM PST by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

“I guess adult bookstores count.”

According to the Methodology statement, “for figures reported for “retail”, these did not include any “specialty”, “adult”, or “religious” bookstores.”

http://www.ccsu.edu/AMLC07/Methodology.htm


24 posted on 12/28/2007 10:09:39 AM PST by rwa265
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To: Domandred
forgot New Mexico even existed.

Come to think of it, I haven't had a phone call or letter from New Mexico in years. Maybe it's gone.

25 posted on 12/28/2007 2:04:55 PM PST by groanup (When companies fail they go out of business. When a gov't project fails it gets bigger. M.F.)
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To: rwa265
According to the Methodology statement, “for figures reported for “retail”, these did not include any “specialty”, “adult”, or “religious” bookstores.”

Great. So religious bookstores get lumped in with "adult" bookstores. Nice methodology. No bias there.
26 posted on 12/28/2007 2:10:07 PM PST by Antoninus (Ignore the polls. Vote your values. Elect conservatives.)
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To: alloysteel
You cannot be literate if ignorant.

One who is literate can read and write. One who is ignorant lacks knowledge. I'm pretty sure Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and John Edwards can read and write as well as you. If A=B, and B=C, then A=C. I guess that makes you ignorant.

27 posted on 12/28/2007 5:04:45 PM PST by highimpact (Abortion - [n]: human sacrifice at the altar of convenience.)
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To: Adams

A drive down E. Lake St. will dissolve you of that notion pretty quick.


28 posted on 12/31/2007 8:40:16 AM PST by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: Cagey

Minneapolis is also the most heavily biked city in America. People around here are actually quite outdoors oriented - fishing, camping, biking, etc. are all huge. Also, the summers here are quite warm, but even in the dead of winter (like right now), people are out and about.

I guess you’re just one of those wusses that can’t take the cold. ;)


29 posted on 12/31/2007 9:01:08 AM PST by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: Mr. Mojo
5. Washington, D.C.
Hard to believe.

DC native here. DC is full of universities, you've got the elite government types, and thousands of lawyers, so I'm not surprised it's #5. Take it down a notch to the 'little people' and it probably falls to #100. : )

30 posted on 12/31/2007 9:05:01 AM PST by radiohead ("Dissolution of the IRS as we know it." Fred Thompson. Stop...You had me at "dissolution.")
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian

Bump for later.


31 posted on 12/31/2007 9:07:27 AM PST by defconw (Pray for Snow!)
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
Minneapolis is also the most heavily biked city in America.


32 posted on 12/31/2007 9:11:06 AM PST by Cagey
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