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Churchill's Views on Islam 1899
Winston Churchill - The River War ^ | 1899 | Winston Churchill

Posted on 12/28/2007 11:22:03 AM PST by PGR88

WINSTON CHURCHILL ON ISLAM - IN 1899!

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!

Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.

The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 1899; islam; quotes; winstonchurchill

1 posted on 12/28/2007 11:22:04 AM PST by PGR88
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To: PGR88

No less true a century later.


2 posted on 12/28/2007 11:23:52 AM PST by Tears of a Clown
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To: PGR88
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

Wisdom of the ages, by a Westerner... which is why they want to kill you.
3 posted on 12/28/2007 11:24:39 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: PGR88; Admin Moderator

Where’s the link?


4 posted on 12/28/2007 11:25:25 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (I'm not celebrating Kwanza!)
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To: PGR88

Some things never change.


5 posted on 12/28/2007 11:27:16 AM PST by Edgar3 (Steve Spurrier for President!)
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To: PGR88
He also wrote that Islam teaches men how to die, and makes splendid soldiers - as always, Churchill is as fair as he is direct and honest.
6 posted on 12/28/2007 11:27:31 AM PST by JasonC
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To: PGR88

“and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall.”

Lax immigration policies and political correctness over the past generation have removed that defense.


7 posted on 12/28/2007 11:27:59 AM PST by PC99
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To: Paleo Conservative

Are you Google impaired?
Here’s one.

http://www.amazon.com/review/R3A4IXJTS3ZQX3


8 posted on 12/28/2007 11:28:25 AM PST by djf (Whats with Santa and the short guys and toys? Michael Jackson of the Arctic? Somethin fishy here!)
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To: PGR88

Your link doesn’t work.


9 posted on 12/28/2007 11:28:36 AM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Paleo Conservative; PGR88; Admin Moderator

“Where’s the link?”

May not be readily available, but there is a book reference that could be checked by anyone who has a copy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_River_War


10 posted on 12/28/2007 11:33:02 AM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: PGR88

He was right then and he’s right now. But the Muzzies have won.

I read on FR that a new history book for use in British schools was published last year - and Churchill does not even appear in it. He’s been written out of history because he was so un-PC, and probably because the Brits feared the mere mention of him would inflame their Muslim residents.


11 posted on 12/28/2007 11:34:09 AM PST by livius
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To: PGR88

WHO IS THIS INFIDEL CHURCHILL? WHEN I FIND HIM, I WILL CUT HIS THROAT!

12 posted on 12/28/2007 11:35:28 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Chuck Hagel makes Joe Biden look like a statesman!)
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To: djf; Admin Moderator
Are you Google impaired? Here’s one.

Are you memory impared? Did you forget that all threads are supposed to have a URL linking to the source in the thread heading. There's actually a place for it in the Free Republic thread posting page.

13 posted on 12/28/2007 11:35:45 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (I'm not celebrating Kwanza!)
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To: Paleo Conservative
here

Disclaimer: link given with a good sense of humor, and assumes one in you. :)

14 posted on 12/28/2007 11:37:12 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: PGR88

churchill knew and said what the lib/dem weenies are too scared to say.......

The five pillars of Islam..... murder, bestiality, terrorism, cowardice and abuse of women and children.

Know islam, no peace; No islam, know peace!

If the Arabs put down their guns, there would be no more violence. If the Israelis put down their guns, there would be no more Israel.

The Pope was correct in his quote....”Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.” -Manuel II Paleologus


15 posted on 12/28/2007 11:37:50 AM PST by nyyankeefan
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To: PGR88

If anyone in Britain wrote that today, they’d likely be called before some hate speech tribunal and either fined or jailed.

Enoch Powell’s 1968 speech never even addressed Islam’s qualities (or lack thereof). He merely noted that multicultural societies tend to balkanize and turn internally violent. That alone was enough to ruin his career.

Just imagine the firestorm if a prominent person today were to write something like this.


16 posted on 12/28/2007 11:43:24 AM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: antiRepublicrat

I’ve posted close to 600 threads and am very familiar with how to use Google. I often do quite a bit of searching before posting threads and post excerpts and links to the best and most relevant web pages I have found in the first thread comment.


17 posted on 12/28/2007 11:44:51 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (I'm not celebrating Kwanza!)
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To: puroresu

I wonder if Khartoum or The Four Feathers are even aired on the BBC? How about the The Beatles HELP!? John Lennon calls them “filthy eastern people with their filthy eastern ways.


18 posted on 12/28/2007 11:46:21 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Even WITH a link, I usually try to validate things I’m interested in.
It is not unknown or even unusual for things to get posted without a link.

Maybe you should switch to decaf.


19 posted on 12/28/2007 11:46:29 AM PST by djf (Whats with Santa and the short guys and toys? Michael Jackson of the Arctic? Somethin fishy here!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Joke, dude, joke.

I read your well-informed posts all the time.


20 posted on 12/28/2007 11:48:38 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Sorry! I’ve been recovering from a bad cold I came down with on Christmas Eve.


21 posted on 12/28/2007 11:50:38 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (I'm not celebrating Kwanza!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Allright, I didn’t need the Google reference... just seemed to me you somehow doubted the veracity of the poster.

I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. Remember: You can’t believe everything you read, even if Google points at it!


22 posted on 12/28/2007 11:53:43 AM PST by djf (Whats with Santa and the short guys and toys? Michael Jackson of the Arctic? Somethin fishy here!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Sorry to hear that. Hope you recover for New Years.


23 posted on 12/28/2007 11:55:03 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: PGR88

“Never have so many done so little [for Mankind] with so much.”

(Forgive me Winston...)


24 posted on 12/28/2007 11:55:51 AM PST by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: PGR88
Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog
Lucky for us hydrophobic dogs don't blow up buildings.
25 posted on 12/28/2007 11:57:24 AM PST by samtheman (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Where’s the link?

At the top of the page...

26 posted on 12/28/2007 11:57:46 AM PST by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: PGR88

ping


27 posted on 12/28/2007 12:00:12 PM PST by Agent Smith (Fallujah delenda est. (I wish))
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To: PC99

Lax immigration policies and political correctness over the past generation have removed that defense.


Exactly. Our ancestors assumed that technology would help to make us wiser than our adversaries. And, in some respects, it has, but..... it has also made us complacent. Thanks to our advanced technology, most cannot imagine that our civilization will ever fall. Technology serves as a buffer to the effects of the idiotic—and allows foolishness to flourish. If we lose to militant Islam, it will be due as much to self-inflicted wounds as to antying the enemy does.


28 posted on 12/28/2007 12:01:22 PM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: econjack
At the top of the page...

Sure 35 minutes after the thread was posted and only because the Admin Moderator put it there after being informed by me that it was missing.

29 posted on 12/28/2007 12:01:57 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (I'm not celebrating Kwanza!)
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To: PGR88
Pakistan gave evidence of Churchill’s analysis yesterday. Islam is a systematic barbarism where a lone Muslim can seemingly cast a vote by means of violence that shapes a future of a population. It cannot be remedied by violence as it thrives off violence. It cannot be remedied by democracy as lone Muslims will forever cast their votes by violent means. It can only be remedied by changing the hearts of the people ensnared by the barbaric Islamic religion so they will seek to abandon the hateful religion.
30 posted on 12/28/2007 12:04:59 PM PST by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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To: PGR88

Providence. Nothing has changed from then until now.

Excuse me, it has changed, and we have let it. I believe they may be smarter than those who really think they are enlightened, the liberals of Western culture.

Sad isn’t it? Sad that Western civilization would allow a culture of doom and suppression to darken our doors.

Churchill knew it then, conservatives know it now.

Our only hope is to stop Islam, and its Western enablers, the modern liberals.

The liberal must think he will win. What a joke.


31 posted on 12/28/2007 12:14:57 PM PST by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: PGR88

His writing always reminds me of Mencken.


32 posted on 12/28/2007 12:17:41 PM PST by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: PGR88

This is really an amazingly brilliant passage.


33 posted on 12/28/2007 12:24:06 PM PST by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: Tears of a Clown

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world

this says it all.


34 posted on 12/28/2007 12:30:48 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: PGR88

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38b7e6657eee.htm


35 posted on 12/28/2007 12:39:00 PM PST by gitmogrunt (John McCain's Views on Islam.....Never Forget)
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To: PGR88

It is too bad that this is true today. In the early middle ages, the Islamic civilization was thriving. However, the fundamentalist have taken over the religion. Here is an article on the Golden Age of Islamic Civilization. At the time, they were more advanced than the Europeans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age


36 posted on 12/28/2007 12:59:20 PM PST by kenn5
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To: Tears of a Clown
No less true a century later.

Only now, they may get The Bomb. And they won't be delivering it by some system that we can shoot down. They'll ship it in disguised as lead contaminated Chinese toys.

37 posted on 12/28/2007 2:47:37 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Night Hides Not
WHO IS THIS INFIDEL CHURCHILL? WHEN I FIND HIM, I WILL CUT HIS THROAT!

You're welcome to try there Mo.

38 posted on 12/28/2007 2:53:22 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: PGR88

Churchill was only twenty-five years old when he wrote that, but he knew what he was talking about. One year earlier he led a cavalry charge at the battle of Omdurman, the greatest victory against Islamic fundamentalism in the nineteenth century.


39 posted on 12/28/2007 3:02:50 PM PST by Berosus ("The candidates that can't face Fox News can't face Al Qaeda."--Roger Ailes)
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To: nyyankeefan

...And truly by what B16 had said in this quote, he became a profile in courage.


40 posted on 12/28/2007 5:07:49 PM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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