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Al Gore in Bali: 'My own country is principally responsible for obstructing progress' [Ed Koch]
World Tribune ^ | 12/18/2007 | Ed Koch

Posted on 12/29/2007 7:29:40 AM PST by Incorrigible

Al Gore in Bali: 'My own country is principally responsible for obstructing progress'

I may be old fashioned, but I think it's wrong to publicly attack and criticize your own country overseas. It is doubly wrong to do so in the presence of those who hate the United States.

Al Gore, a former Senator from Tennessee, a former Vice President of the United States and the 2000 Democratic candidate for president, apparently believes that since, as he said, he is “not an official of the United States,” he is free to attack his native country anywhere. This month in Bali, Indonesia, the United Nations held a conference on global warming for the purpose of extending the Kyoto Protocols, which will formally end in 2012. The United States — concerned about Kyoto's effect on economic growth — has refused to ratify the Protocols. On July 25, 1997, the U.S. Senate rejected then Vice President Gore's advice and voted 95-0 to reject the Kyoto Protocols.

Last week Al Gore appeared at the Bali conference and said, “I am not an official of the United States and I am not bound by the diplomatic niceties. So I am going to speak an inconvenient truth. My own country, the United States, is principally responsible for obstructing progress here in Bali. We all know that.” Oh, really? And just how do we all know that? Is it true that the U.S. is “principally responsible for obstructing progress” in Bali? The New York Times, which applauds the former Vice President, reported on December 14 that “[t]he emerging economic powers, most notably China and India, also refuse to accept limits on their emissions, despite projections that they will soon become the dominant sources of the gases.” The same Times article stated while the U.S. opposes an agreement that would include numerical targets, so do “a few other countries, including Russia.”

On November 7, 2006, The Times reported, “China will surpass the United States in 2009, nearly a decade ahead of previous predictions, as the biggest emitter of the main gas linked to global warming, the International Energy Agency has concluded in a report to be released Tuesday.” The article continued, “China’s rise, fueled heavily by coal, is particularly troubling to climate scientists because as a developing country, China is exempt from the Kyoto Protocol’s requirements for reductions in emissions of global warming gases. Unregulated emissions from China, India and other developing countries are likely to account for most of the global increase in carbon dioxide emissions over the next quarter-century. The agency’s prediction highlights the unexpected speed with which China is emerging as the biggest contributor to global warming. Still, China has resisted limits on its own emissions and those of other developing countries.”

The argument offered by China, India and other developing countries is clear and direct. Said Lu Xuedu, the deputy director general of the Chinese Office of Global Environmental Affairs, “You cannot tell people who are struggling to earn enough to eat that they need to reduce their emissions.” China's intent is to put the United States and Europe in a difficult economic position where standards of living will be reduced until developing countries rise to the standard of the U.S. At that point the developing countries will be required to reduce their emissions.

President Bush has been attacked by Al Gore and his supporters for resisting a treaty that could inflict economic harm on the American people. Does Al Gore seriously think that we should reduce the U.S. standard of living until developing countries — formerly called Third World countries until that term was discarded as demeaning — catch up with us economically?

China is growing at a tremendous rate. So far this year, China’s gross domestic product has grown 11 percent, while U.S. growth is two percent. According to The Times, India has a middle class of 250 million, while the entire U.S. population is 300 million. What’s going on here? These facts alone make clear it is not necessary to effectively mandate a reduction in the U.S. standard of living in order for other nations to grow.

I wonder if Al Gore knows what he's doing. Reducing and sacrificing the U.S. standard of living as a way to bring others up the ladder, rather than allowing the U.S. to maintain its living standard while encouraging and helping others to reach our level, is a foolish and dangerous plan. It is simply unacceptable. Al Gore and his friends live in a Democratic society and have the absolute right to say what they want. But those of us who do not want to see the U.S. punished because of its success have rights, too. I believe it is our duty to denounce Al Gore's unwise attacks on America and hold him accountable for what he says.

Today, China has a hugely favorable balance of trade with the U.S. In 2006, for example, China's net favorable balance was more than $232 billion. The New York Times on December 14, 2007 reported that “China’s trade deficit with the United States is expected to soar to nearly $300 billion this year, representing nearly half the overall American trade deficit.” Thanks to these enormous trade advantages, China has now accumulated more than $1.4 trillion dollars which they can use to buy up our industries cheaply, especially now when so many American business leaders are prophesizing an American recession. The Chinese have actually set aside $200 billion for the purpose of making such purchases worldwide, as a start.

Should Al Gore be out there creating the impression that the U.S. primarily is the cause of global problems? I say “no.” It is particularly galling when a recent Wall Street Journal article reported: “Under the vaunted Kyoto, from 2000 to 2004, Europe managed to increase its emissions by 2.3 percentage points over 1995 to 2000. Only two countries are on track to meet targets…[M]eanwhile in the U.S., under the president’s oh-so-unserious plan, U.S. emissions from 2000 to 2004 were eight percentage points lower than in the prior period.”

In other words, when it comes to the emissions problem, the U.S. is leading the way toward solving the problem without throwing millions of people out of work.

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Edward I. Koch, who served as mayor of New York City from 1978 to 1989, is a partner in the law firm of Bryan Cave.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climate; globalwarming; gore; koch
 

Ed Koch, forever the voice of reason!

Well, except when he's supporting Hillary!  :-)

 

1 posted on 12/29/2007 7:29:43 AM PST by Incorrigible
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To: Incorrigible

Al Gore is not worried about lowering the standard of living in the USA. He is not tied to the standard of living in the USA. He is a citizen of the world. He is a member of the proletariat. When the people of the USSR were standing in bread lines with no shoes on their feet, the proletariat were sitting in Dachas eating caviar and drinking champagne. Al Gore knows that he is going to live well, regardless of how the USA does and his family will do well also. They are supporters of a system whereby your family determines your economic well being because it is a member of the ruling class.


2 posted on 12/29/2007 7:36:12 AM PST by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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To: Incorrigible
Big Al the Global Pimp.
3 posted on 12/29/2007 7:39:53 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (whose spirit is hillary channelling these days?)
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To: Incorrigible

Al Gore is a treasonous, treacherous, toad.

He would sell-out his own country to advance his standing among the international socialist eco-jihadis.

I cannot think of an epithet strong enough to characterize this piece of filth without descending into the gutter in which he wallows.


4 posted on 12/29/2007 7:40:17 AM PST by Westbrook
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To: Incorrigible

Hey, Al, you left this in Bali.

5 posted on 12/29/2007 7:42:12 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (whose spirit is hillary channelling these days?)
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To: Incorrigible

6 posted on 12/29/2007 7:42:34 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Incorrigible
I may be old fashioned, but I think it's wrong to publicly attack and criticize your own country overseas. It is doubly wrong to do so in the presence of those who hate the United States.

Clinton is just as guilty as Gore, and so are many of liberals.

7 posted on 12/29/2007 7:45:54 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Incorrigible
“I am not an official of the United States and I am not bound by the diplomatic niceties.”

And he shouldn’t be a citizen of the US, either.

I hate this b*st*rd.

8 posted on 12/29/2007 7:47:27 AM PST by ryan71
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To: Incorrigible

Your right Ed Koch is often reasonable, supports Bush very strongly in the WOT nad is basically not a member of the Moonbat wing of the party. Yet still he supports Hillary, not just as well she’s not a Republican, he’s more of a for Hillary than the lesser of two evils supporter. I just don’t get it!


9 posted on 12/29/2007 7:48:08 AM PST by marlon
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To: the invisib1e hand

It’s hard out there for a pimp.


10 posted on 12/29/2007 7:50:03 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Incorrigible
"I think it's wrong to publicly attack and criticize your own country overseas. It is doubly wrong to do so in the presence of those who hate the United States."

But, Ed, Democrat politicians do it regularly--as a matter of routine. Where have you been???

It's time to take your head out of the sand--and face reality!

My parents, grandparents, and great grandparents were ALL Democrats.

I woke up one day, took my head out of the sand, and faced reality--which is what you need to do, Ed--and I have been a fanatical anti-Democrat ever since. I consistently vote Republican--which is the strongest anti-Democrat move I can make.

My children--I am extremely proud to say--are ALL Republicans!

Anyone who loves America, is truthful, has an IQ above 60, and is not an ostrich--is anti-Democrat.

11 posted on 12/29/2007 7:58:57 AM PST by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Incorrigible
The United States of America is principally responsible for obstructing the Global Warming crowd, thank goodness. The IPPC is a construct of radical environmentalist, covetous third world countries, US enemies, Socialist, European politics/politicians, climate business hucksters, UN rent seeking, and their allies in science. Please continue to obstruct until the weather changes!

It makes sense that the most efficient and productive nation consumes the most energy.

12 posted on 12/29/2007 8:01:40 AM PST by ricks_place
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To: ryan71
I hate this b*st*rd.

Any reasonable American Citizen will feel that!
13 posted on 12/29/2007 8:02:48 AM PST by SeeSalt
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To: Paloma_55

“He is a member of the proletariat. “

Uh.. No he isn’t. He believes that he is a member of the ruling class. To Al Gore, the rest of us are the proletarait who must rely on people like Al Gore for our sustenance.

And if we don’t rely on them, they will tax us into the position that we eventually will be. That’s what is going on with Global Warming, energy dependence and the UN. The self proclaimed world elite want us to pay homage to them.

Best thing that can happen to us is to throw the UN out of the US. But first arrest all of them and ship them to Gaza.


14 posted on 12/29/2007 8:10:32 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Hunter Thompson in 08.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

“Big Al the Global Pimp.”

So true.


15 posted on 12/29/2007 8:12:01 AM PST by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: freekitty
So true.

He makes Al Sharpton look like an amateur.

16 posted on 12/29/2007 8:13:11 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (whose spirit is hillary channelling these days?)
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To: Incorrigible
'My own country is principally responsible for obstructing progress'

I am a naturalized US citizen. Not rich . Not poor.But I'll never, never, never say or think about that words,the former VP of USA sad in a foreign country.Not even in USA! It is hard for me to comprehend the sate of mind of a jerk former VP, Nobel laureate.
17 posted on 12/29/2007 8:14:09 AM PST by SeeSalt
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To: Incorrigible

18 posted on 12/29/2007 8:14:36 AM PST by SeafoodGumbo
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To: Incorrigible
'My own country is principally responsible for obstructing progress'

Who's betraying his country now, Mr. Gore? Who's playing on people's fears now, Mr. Gore?

Leftists are always guilty of their own most caustic accusations. Why do they have to be so freaking predictable?

19 posted on 12/29/2007 8:15:15 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (whose spirit is hillary channelling these days?)
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To: Incorrigible
Image hosted by Photobucket.com Ohh WOE is me... whys everybody pickin on me???

20 posted on 12/29/2007 8:18:01 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: Paloma_55

Excellent comments. Very well said.


21 posted on 12/29/2007 8:19:29 AM PST by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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To: Incorrigible
Al Gore in Bali: 'My own country is principally responsible for obstructing progress'

Never forget what the word "progress" has come to mean; a descent into communist dictatorship.

22 posted on 12/29/2007 8:34:36 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: Incorrigible

Gore and “Jimmah” - perfect together - two traitors.

Why the hell are we paying for protection, free mailing privileges, a library and a pension for “Jimmah” and God knows what for Gore?


23 posted on 12/29/2007 8:37:48 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Giggle.


24 posted on 12/29/2007 8:46:10 AM PST by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: Incorrigible

Nothing new here Al Gore is stll a certified asshole!


25 posted on 12/29/2007 8:52:36 AM PST by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: Incorrigible
I've reading the Declaration of Independence. If Al Gore does not subscribe to the normal diplomatic propriety where he is addressed with the highest rank he achieved, to wit Mr Vice President, indeed he willnot acknowledge his position as an American then so be it. I hereby Declare my Independence from this nit wit!

He will be declared Personna Non Grata and denied re-entry into the United States. His family will be deported.

I pledge the necessary diesel fuel to power the bulldozers which I hope someone of my position will pledge. I will mark the hole and we will bull doze is mansion and bury it. That energy hog will be off the grid so Mr Hot Air and his energy inefficient ways will be eliminated from our environment!!!

I will donate the Nobel Prize for Science and Technolgy to FreeRepublic for furthering Truth Justice and the American Way! No my name is not Clark Kent!

26 posted on 12/29/2007 8:53:21 AM PST by Young Werther (Julius Caesar (Quae Cum Ita Sunt. Since these things are so.))
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To: Incorrigible

Memo to Ed; Add Jon F’n Cary to your list.


27 posted on 12/29/2007 8:53:27 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: Incorrigible

Gore is a liar and a sociopath.


28 posted on 12/29/2007 8:55:48 AM PST by Tax Government (Clintons are sociopaths and criminals.)
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To: Incorrigible

Why doesn’t Gore do the right thing and visit the site of the Bali nightclub massacre? Why doesn’t he stand up for his culture? There were more people murdered in Bali than have even been incovenienced by global warming. Priorities!


29 posted on 12/29/2007 9:09:18 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: Incorrigible
Ed Koch is a liberal but he's a dying breed of Democrat who puts country ahead of party. A very decent fellow.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

30 posted on 12/29/2007 9:15:12 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Incorrigible
al gore
31 posted on 12/29/2007 10:24:22 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: Incorrigible

bttt


32 posted on 12/29/2007 10:28:25 AM PST by kalee
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To: Incorrigible
This bag of SH*T was almost President. I have to thank the people of Tennessee who knew He was a fraud and would not give their electoral votes to Him, keeping Him out of the White House. You know your a Fraud when your own won't back you.
33 posted on 12/29/2007 11:21:10 AM PST by reefdiver (The sheriff of Nottingham collected taxes on behalf of the common good)
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To: Incorrigible

34 posted on 12/29/2007 11:23:28 AM PST by Lady Jag (Fall seven times, stand up eight)
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To: Incorrigible
In other words, when it comes to the emissions problem, the U.S. is leading the way toward solving the problem without throwing millions of people out of work. Big Al really does want China and India to eclipse the United States economically. He uses global warming to as a way to decrease Republican-lead economic growth.
35 posted on 12/29/2007 12:36:31 PM PST by TheThinker
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To: Incorrigible

Sedition or treason?


36 posted on 12/29/2007 1:02:21 PM PST by wastedyears (Merry Christmas, FReepers)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Hey al, quit promoting yourself and take care of your family problems.


37 posted on 12/29/2007 1:24:18 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: Incorrigible; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; ...

FReepmail me to get on or off


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Ed Krotch? what did they hit him over the head with?
38 posted on 12/29/2007 3:39:06 PM PST by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: Incorrigible
"I may be old fashioned, but I think it's wrong to publicly attack and criticize your own country overseas. It is doubly wrong to do so in the presence of those who hate the United States.

Al Gore, a former Senator from Tennessee, a former Vice President of the United States and the 2000 Democratic candidate for president, apparently believes that since, as he said, he is “not an official of the United States,” he is free to attack his native country anywhere."

In other words the sorry sack of hsit is still angry over the 2000 thing and he's out for revenge.

39 posted on 12/29/2007 3:48:38 PM PST by OKSooner
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To: the invisib1e hand

When this is all over, he’s going to look like a complete idiot...again.


40 posted on 12/30/2007 1:31:01 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy
"Hot Air Cult"

~~Anthropogenic Global Warming ™ ping~~

41 posted on 01/01/2008 10:52:56 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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