ANSWERS TO 50 ANTI-MORMON QUESTIONS (LDS SITE FAIR)

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[big'ol_freeper]

Thanks Jim.




U.S. Army Retired

[JDoutrider]

mark

[Elsie]

OUCH!! That has GOT to hurt!!

[tantiboh]

~”Some of you guys are pushing the abortionist, gay agenda advancing, gun grabbing, big government socialist nanny state lying liberal RINO BECAUSE of his religion.”~

While I reject your premise that Romney is as despicable as you say, it’s true that some Mormons are supporting him for his religion. Some of the people on this thread have seen me decry that in the past, too. Still, the number is not as high as some like to proclaim. I would venture to guess that half the Mormons on FR have been politically behind candidates other than Romney. I’m in the part of the other half that finds him to be an acceptable, and even admirable, candidate in his own right.

~”Conservatives are pushing back.”~

Yeah. By supporting Huckabee. Give me a break. If conservatives were pushing back against Romney, what happened to Hunter? Where’s Thompson going? Tancredo? Brownback? Even combined these people don’t amount to a serious candidate.

There’s a peculiar brand of narrow vision amongst many conservative activists that seems to compel them to proclaim that imperfection is unacceptable. As represented by the polls - where the best conservatives have been utterly defeated - these conservative activists aren’t nearly so influential as they like to think. Is Romney perfect? Of course not. He’s the best available option, though, and to doggedly hold to any of the failed candidacies in the face of this cold reality is to cut off your nose to spite your face. Tancredo’s gone. Hunter and Brownback are DOA. Thompson’s singing his swan song. Between Giuliani, Huckabee, McCain, and Romney, I will choose Mitt Romney each and every time.

~”And it’s perfectly within their rights.”~

Of course it is within their rights.

~”NOTHING un-American about it.”~

Of course it is un-American. There’s very little that could be more un-American. Killing puppies is all that comes to mind.

~”If you can’t stand the heat, get out!”~

I’m here, aren’t I? The heat doesn’t bother me at all. That’s the dividend of being cocky.

[Elsie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAbAIpZG7II

[Elsie]

Is this an FRexample of ‘Taunting the Tiger’?

[tantiboh]

~”If you do not wish to waste your valuable time reading it; don’t.”~

Oh, don’t worry, that part’s already sorted.

[rightazrain]

Re. your post 190:

A great re-post!!! I hadn’t seen before this example of Jim Robinson’s take on Mormons complaining of the FREE airing of opinions about Romney’s core faith.

Thanks!

[broncobilly]

“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.

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Elsie, it is so silly of you running around shouting that quote of what a 14 year old said to his mother as if you have struck “gold.”
Almost every denomination thinks the others are not “true.” That is the justification for forming a new denomination.
And you think that is the justification for all the crap that has been spewed out on this and other like treads.
I feel like a spectator watching a bunch of losers go out of their gourds.

[greyfoxx39]

Is this an FRexample of ‘Taunting the Tiger’?

Well, I got the song already to go, just in case......

You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger
And you don't mess around with Jim, da do da do...

[tantiboh]

~”Is this an FRexample of ‘Taunting the Tiger’?”~

Of course not. But if I disagree with a person, I’m going to say so, whether or not that person happens to be the owner of the site where I’m saying it. If Jim’s married, I’m sure his wife would agree that he’s not always right.

I, however, am single, so I’m never wrong. The question remains open as to which direction the cause and effect goes.

Jim’s a grown-up. He can take it. He’s dealt with far worse than my little jabs. I would presume that the last thing he wants on FR is an echo chamber.

[muawiyah]

They were being polite. Larry’s the one who said he had a wide stance.

[tantiboh]

Oops, forgot the ping.

[festus]

Its ok neither does he.

[Jim Robinson]

It’s all in his record. Look it up.

And it’s not Huckabee. Conservatives are supporting Thompson and Hunter, the only conservatives in the race. Every poll we’ve run on FR shows FReepers supporting Thompson/Hunter by huge majorities. Thompson/Hunter are currently supported by 80% of all FReepers responding to our poll:

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=207

Free Republic is a conservative forum. We advocate for conservatism and for conservative candidates. Liberals, RINOs, nanny staters and liars need not apply.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Jim,

“Liberals, RINOs, nanny staters and liars”

Direct hit on Romney on all four.

You sunk his battleship!

[webboy45]

For an earlier post that questioned the verbiage that a temple shall be built in Missouri in the 1900’s, here’s what the Jack Lynch “Guide to Grammar and Style” says about shall vs. will:

An old distinction, more common in British than in American English, still comes up from time to time. To wit: will is usually the simple future indicative: “This will happen,” “You will be surprised.” Shall is related to the subjunctive, and means “Let it be so,”

see http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Writing/s.html

[tantiboh]

~”It’s all in his record. Look it up.”~

I’ve seen the record, I’ve studied it here for months. There’s plenty of grounds on which to criticize Romney. He is not my first pick. But, frankly, to paint him in the harsh way that FR has painted him is histrionics - and most of it was generated in an effort to advance Thompson. Well, it didn’t work. Now what?

~”Every poll we’ve run on FR shows FReepers supporting Thompson/Hunter by huge majorities.”~

That’s true, but FR draws a particular kind of conservative - perhaps even the best ones. But to extrapolate that to the Republican base as a whole is a mistake - FR participants are not a representative sample. It’s cold reality, and it means that we will not be nominating a perfect conservative. The time for advocating Hunter, Thompson, etc. has passed. At this time, I’m advocating that we take what we can get when we can get it. That means compromising our choice. Not our principles - we can fight for the rest of them another day. But we’ll have a whole lot less heartburn over our principles with Romney than we will with Giuliani, McCain, Huckabee, or a Democrat.

~”We advocate for conservatism and for conservative candidates.”~

Well and good. But how effective is that advocacy if you don’t win?

[Chaguito]

Need a citation for entanglement of the Christian Church with Mormonism. I only know of an individual, Sidney Rigdon, who was indeed from the Christian Church. Don’t know anything about the other group’s entanglements.