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Rudy Giuliani Veterans’ Co-Chairman Resigns Over Muslim Remarks
Fox News ^ | 12/30/07 | FoxNews

Posted on 12/29/2007 12:32:37 PM PST by jimbo123

A co-chairman for Rudy Giuliani’s veterans’ coalition in New Hampshire resigned Saturday after telling a British newspaper that Muslims need to be chased “back to their caves.”

-snip-

the original Guardian interview, Deady said Giuliani is the best candidate to handle “one of the most difficult problems in current history” — “the rise of the Muslims.”

He added: “We need to keep the feet to the fire and keep pressing these people until we defeat or chase them back to their caves or, in other words, get rid of them.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: giuliani; giulianitruthfile; korananimals; muslims; rudy; trop; truth

1 posted on 12/29/2007 12:32:39 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Wow, Deady should run for Senator of NY. He’s got more on the ball than Shillery and Schumer put together.


2 posted on 12/29/2007 12:35:02 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: jimbo123

He should have been given a promotion instead.


3 posted on 12/29/2007 12:36:11 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: jimbo123

He’s right, but he’s an idiot for saying that without qualifying it by saying “radical” muslims...not just “the muslims.”


4 posted on 12/29/2007 12:37:04 PM PST by Tears of a Clown
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To: jimbo123
Bumpity Bump Bump

FRED VETS, SIGN UP TODAY AT:

5 posted on 12/29/2007 12:37:17 PM PST by W04Man (I'm Now With Fred http://Vets4Fred.net)
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To: Tears of a Clown

Later in an interview with the Talking Points Memo Web site, Deady confirmed he made the statements and said he was referring to all Muslims.

“I don’t subscribe to the principle that there are good Muslims and bad Muslims,” Deady said in the article. “They’re all Muslims.”


6 posted on 12/29/2007 12:37:42 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Tears of a Clown
He’s right, but he’s an idiot for saying that without qualifying it by saying “radical” muslims...not just “the muslims.”

Bingo

7 posted on 12/29/2007 12:38:21 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: jimbo123

I vote for that guy twice.


8 posted on 12/29/2007 12:38:50 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

Fired for speaking the truth about Death Cult.


9 posted on 12/29/2007 12:40:44 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
Muslims need to be chased “back to their caves.”

I hope the problem was that instead they should be terminated before they could get back to their caves.

ML/NJ

10 posted on 12/29/2007 12:41:23 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
He’s got more on the ball than Shillery and Schumer put together.

He’s got more balls than Shillery and Schumer put together.

Fixed.

11 posted on 12/29/2007 12:41:33 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: ConorMacNessa
Amen. Rudy firing this guy really calls into question his signature issue: his ability to handle the War of Terror which should more correctly be called the War on Islamofacism.

Rudi's support for sanctuary city policies already casts doubt on said alleged expertise. This move removes all doubt.

12 posted on 12/29/2007 12:41:42 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

John Deady for President


13 posted on 12/29/2007 12:41:50 PM PST by bella1 (Former Republican)
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To: jimbo123
If Rudy had walked out and said: “I stand firmly behind my staff and that statement. - Perhaps his choice of words was less than perfect, but the concept is crystal clear, and I stand behind it!”

If he had said that he would have my respect and a shot at my vote, but if he had said that then he wouldn't’t be Rudy, now would he?

He would be someone like Fred.

14 posted on 12/29/2007 12:43:35 PM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: jimbo123

Hahaha. Nevermind then.


15 posted on 12/29/2007 12:43:54 PM PST by Tears of a Clown
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To: Tears of a Clown
He’s right, but he’s an idiot for saying that without qualifying it by saying “radical” muslims...not just “the muslims.”

Actually, NO.

radical (răd'ĭ-kəl)
n.

1. One who advocates fundamental or revolutionary changes in current practices, conditions, or institutions:


So muslims that want to change the precepts of Islam found within the Koran and the Hadith could be okay. It is traditional muslims who are violent savages.

16 posted on 12/29/2007 12:44:38 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck is the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aren't going.)
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To: Tears of a Clown
He’s right, but he’s an idiot for saying that without qualifying it by saying “radical” muslims...not just “the muslims.”

Actually, NO.

radical (răd'ĭ-kəl)
n.

1. One who advocates fundamental or revolutionary changes in current practices, conditions, or institutions:


So muslims that want to change the precepts of Islam found within the Koran and the Hadith could be okay. It is traditional muslims who are violent savages.

17 posted on 12/29/2007 12:45:49 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck is the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aren't going.)
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To: jimbo123
It was a bad mistake to insult some of
Rudolph William Louis Giuliani’s clients.
18 posted on 12/29/2007 12:47:14 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy,Romney,McCain, Huckabee will send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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To: Tears of a Clown
He’s right, but he’s an idiot for saying that without qualifying it by saying “radical” muslims...not just “the muslims.”

All that was necessary was a "CORRECTION" statement, to make it clear what he actually meant.

The touchy-feely PC crowd seems to have the entire market of free thinking and speaking cornered.

I long for the day when someone stands up to that crowd and WINS!!!

19 posted on 12/29/2007 12:47:41 PM PST by PISANO
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To: jimbo123
A co-chairman for Rudy Giuliani’s veterans’ coalition in New Hampshire resigned Saturday after

...a recent ground swell of support urging a run for president.

20 posted on 12/29/2007 12:51:22 PM PST by Eddie01
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To: jimbo123
“I don’t subscribe to the principle that there are good Muslims and bad Muslims,” Deady said in the article. “They’re all Muslims.”

Regretably, this is correct. What it amounts to is that the only good Muslim is a bad Muslim, one who does not follow the example of Mohammed (rape, enslave, murder, break oaths, pillage, conquer) or the Koran.

I never would have said that in the past, but it is the conclusion I have gradually come to. How can a religion based on the teachings of a child rapist and wife stealer, a habitual enslaver, a bully to the weak, a power-drunk coward, ever be squared with decency?

But, unfortunately, we are not allowed to say that.

21 posted on 12/29/2007 12:53:52 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Tears of a Clown

He’s right, but he’s an idiot for saying that without qualifying it by saying “radical” muslims...not just “the muslims.”

No, he’s got it right!!!


22 posted on 12/29/2007 12:54:20 PM PST by chadwimc (Proud to be an infidel ! Allah fubar !!!)
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To: bill1952

Right. Let’s hear Fred say that, then, if he has so much political courage.


23 posted on 12/29/2007 12:56:46 PM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Isn’t that the truth!!


24 posted on 12/29/2007 1:03:12 PM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: Cicero
Regretably, this is correct.

Oh, pleeeeze. Its like saying there are no bad Catholics or good Catholics -- that to see Catholicism in action, just look at Teddy Kennedy.

I know many a fine Muslim who have no problem integrating into US society and wishing me a Merry Christmas.

25 posted on 12/29/2007 1:05:06 PM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: jimbo123

Finally! Someone with the intestinal fortitude to tell it like it is about this death cult. Of course only a veteran would have the guts to identify the real enemy of Western Civilization.


26 posted on 12/29/2007 1:09:06 PM PST by KC-10A BOOMER (Breakaway, Breakaway, Breakaway!!!!)
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To: Vigilanteman

Rudy is weak on WOT. He does not get it.


27 posted on 12/29/2007 1:12:02 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Tears of a Clown

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14076.html

Asked, for example, if he stood by his comments, Deady said:

“I most assuredly do. I’ve been very concerned about this Muslim thing for quite awhile. The average American does not know beans about what the Muslims are about. I am talking about the Muslims in general. I don’t subscribe to the principle that there are good Muslims and bad Muslims. They’re all Muslims.”

Deady added, “When I say get rid of them, I wasn’t necessarily referring to genocide.”


28 posted on 12/29/2007 1:15:11 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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Rudy the Gutless: he will not get one Muslim vote in any case. They will vote for the democrats, who promise to surrender in Iraq, cease monitoring Islamist terrorist phone calls, and close GITMO. Islamist votes elected Webb in Virginia, but they can probably deliver no other state. Rudy should have stood by his truth-teller.
29 posted on 12/29/2007 1:17:03 PM PST by Godwin1
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To: jimbo123

Deady view of Muslims is the same attitude liberals have of Evangelicals.


30 posted on 12/29/2007 1:17:13 PM PST by Kuksool (Pelosi & Reid have managed the worst Congress ever)
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To: jimbo123

Invest in the foot basin industry.


31 posted on 12/29/2007 1:17:47 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Tears of a Clown

Like there’s a difference.


32 posted on 12/29/2007 1:18:22 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
“I know many a fine Muslim who have no problem integrating into US society and wishing me a Merry Christmas”

So wishing someone a merry Christmas offsets their following and revering a savage, murderous, rapist.

Islam has at it’s center just such a man.

Catholicism has Jesus Christ, the Prince of Peace.

Bit of a difference there.

Anyone who doesn’t reject Islam is either a savage or stupid. And in this case given that so many of the “prophets” adherents are as murderous as he was the stupid among them are not harmless.

Merry Christmas indeed.

33 posted on 12/29/2007 1:34:48 PM PST by TalBlack
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To: TalBlack; Cicero

Where do you get off calling yourself a Christian, and being so bloody judgmental? I said I happen to know a very sweet man - from Lebanon. He grew up with Jewish and Christian friends and dodged civil war bullets. His religion is Muslim. He is someone I trust very highly. He has no problem wishing people a “Merry Christmas”. Are all Muslims like this? NO. Are all Catholics like Ted Kennedy? NO. The Muslim faith has been hi-jacked by the radicals.


34 posted on 12/29/2007 2:58:20 PM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

What you say has a lot of resonance. I have also known some fine Muslim people. And I have read about many more in novels and other sources.

But I have to conclude that they are honorable people in spite of, not because of, Islam. To me the critical question is, was Mohammed himself one of these honorable, decent Muslims? And the answer certainly appears to be “no.” He was an oath breaker, a rapist, a murderer, an enslaver. He was not a good example to be imitated.

The paradox, for me, is that in effect a bad or hypocritical Christian is a bad or destructive person. Teddy Kennedy, to give one example, or Jimmy Carter for another. But there is nothing to be ashamed of in the example of Jesus.

But unfortunately the best Muslims are the bad Muslims, or if that is too strong, the incomplete Muslims, the ones who are not too observant, who don’t follow all the precepts, and in particular the ones who don’t immitate Mohammed, although he is supposedly the perfect example for Muslims to follow.


35 posted on 12/29/2007 3:12:35 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: jimbo123

YYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWW

Get back on your horse cowboy and spread the word.


36 posted on 12/29/2007 3:13:48 PM PST by Tigen (Live in peace or rest in peace!)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Fred wouldn’t run from the comment.


37 posted on 12/29/2007 3:27:38 PM PST by festus (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: jimbo123

One of the other candidates should sign him up.


38 posted on 12/29/2007 3:30:24 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35
Mike Huckabee comes to mind. He's into religious bigotry
39 posted on 12/29/2007 3:44:59 PM PST by Valin
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To: bella1

lol

Wonder how he is on other issues? Has he ever changed his position ala Romney?


40 posted on 12/29/2007 3:49:42 PM PST by kalee
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To: Godwin1
IMO Rudy is okay with the Muslimization of this country.

BTW, saw in the newspaper mention of a new glossy US magazine, "Muslim Girl," that covers topics such as "winterize your hijab."

41 posted on 12/29/2007 3:54:34 PM PST by Dante3
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To: jimbo123
Rudy's gift to the United States:


42 posted on 12/29/2007 4:34:56 PM PST by SheLion (I love Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
“Where do you get off calling yourself a Christian, and being so bloody judgmental?”

“Judgmental”? In WHAT way am I judgmental? Coming to logical, reasonable conclusions is “judgmental” now? You seem to be one of those types who, when they need to call someone a name, reaches for one that is emotionally satisfying without regard for whether or not it actually applies.

I don’t give a damn how chirply a muslim can tootle ‘merry Christmas’, their religion is a sham a sarcasm and an evil death cult. Fight them now or fight them later but fight them you will, and ‘merry Christmas’ boy WON’T help you if he honors muhammad.

43 posted on 12/29/2007 5:06:59 PM PST by TalBlack
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
Well, actually it is OK to be “judgmental.” The capacity to make judgments is one of the things that makes us human. You’ve made a judgment as to the character of your Lebanese friend. Others with different experiences to inform their minds may come to different judgments. The memory of multiple photos/ tv film clips of tens of thousands of Muslims dancing in the streets of their filth
strewn cities to celebrate 911 informs mine. I won’t forget. Ever.
44 posted on 12/29/2007 5:31:04 PM PST by Godwin1
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To: calcowgirl
"I don’t subscribe to the principle that there are good Muslims and bad Muslims. They’re all Muslims."

So what does he intend to do with those Muslims who just happen to be American citizens? Moron.

Of course there are good Muslims and bad ones, just like every other faith. The percentages between them might be different from religion to religion, but that doesn't make this guy's statement any less stupid.

Rudy firing this clown might be the first time I've agreed with him. Good thing it won't last - makes my skin crawl.

45 posted on 01/02/2008 7:01:57 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: highball
The part of the comment that got me was the last part:
“When I say get rid of them, I wasn’t necessarily referring to genocide.”
Very odd phraseology... especially when you are talking about 20% of the world's population.

Firing was a good thing. Ya wonder how many more of these guys are hangin' around the Giuliani camp.

46 posted on 01/02/2008 7:39:56 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: jimbo123

Truth and politics don’t mix. You have to kiss every ass, no matter how dirty.


47 posted on 01/02/2008 7:44:29 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: jimbo123
We need to keep the feet to the fire and keep pressing these people until we defeat or chase them back to their caves or, in other words, get rid of them.”

Deady for president

48 posted on 01/02/2008 7:52:36 PM PST by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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