Skip to comments.A Degree of Insignificance (College Degrees getting to be useless nowadays)
Posted on 12/29/2007 4:25:58 PM PST by SeekAndFind
.S. News & World Report, which has made a name for itself by ranking and announcing the best colleges every year, is now ranking and listing the best careers for young people. A comparison of the latest lists shows a shocking disconnect and makes for dispiriting holiday reading.
While the price of a college education has skyrocketed far faster than inflation, many careers for which colleges prepare their graduates are disappearing. U.S. News' Best Careers guide concludes, "college grads might want to consider blue-collar careers" because bachelor's degree holders "are having trouble finding jobs that require college-graduate skills."
Incredibly, U.S. News is telling college graduates to look for jobs that do not require a college diploma. Among the 31 best opportunities for 2008 are the careers of firefighter, hairstylist, cosmetologist, locksmith and security-system technician.
Where did the higher-skill jobs go? Both large and small companies are "quietly increasing off-shoring efforts."
Ten years ago, we were told we really didn't need manufacturing because it can be done more cheaply elsewhere, that auto workers and others should move to information-age jobs. But now the information jobs are moving offshore, too, as well as marketing research and even many varieties of innovation.
The flight overseas includes professional as well as low-wage jobs, with engineering jobs offshored to India and China. Thousands of bright Asian engineers are willing to work for a fraction of U.S. wages, which is why Boeing just signed a 10-year, $1 billion-a-year deal with a government-run company in India.
Society has been telling high school students that college is the ticket to get a life, and politicians are pandering to parents' desire for their children to be better educated and so have a higher standard of living.
(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...
That’s certainly not true in the tech/engineering world.
Corporates get what they want from their universities.
The following are Fortune 500s that filed briefs in favor of “affirmative action” in the Michigan “Grutter v. Bollinger” (Michigan University) case.
E.I. Du Pont De Nemours
Ernst & Young
Johnson & Johnson
Nationwide Mutual Insurance
Proctor & Gamble
General Motors Corporation
Maybe it should state: College degrees are as necessary now as high school degrees once were.
science and engineering will ALWAYS be use full.
A college degree gives you nothing but a “foot in the door.” The rest is up to your own personal initiative.
Yeah, this article (if you can call it that) is a little short on the facts. Chemical Engineering beats Sports Physiology, and it always will.
Yeah, but those are real degrees.
Education, communications, general studies, etc. are just certificates of attendance.
But the student loans the dumb suckers are saddled with are real.
Is the degree from Rose Hulman worth that much more than the degree from Iowa State?
Students with egineering degrees are getting summer COOP jobs and earning $15,000-$20,000 for about 3 1/2 months work.
They are getting 4-5 offers with starting salaries of $55,000 to $60,000.
The implication that the college grads having trouble finding jobs are engineers is really misleading. The ones who have the most trouble are the ones who major in something like “Women’s Studies” or “Multiculturalism”. The only jobs available for those degree holders are teaching in the University system.
There are a lot of useless degrees these days, but engineering degrees (with the possible exception of software engineering) are not among them.
No. RH is a fine school, but it is not really better than a recognized state school.
“When are we going to call a halt to the way globalism is destroying U.S. jobs by foreign currency manipulation, theft of our intellectual property, shipping us poisonous seafood and toys, and unfair trade agreements that allow foreign subsidies (through the so-called Value Added Tax) to massively discriminate against U.S. producers and workers?”
That’s exactly the same way England threw away its empire and its status as a world leader.
Confirm that with daughter about to graduate with MS Mech Eng; one (large) company has been practically begging her to quit school and come to work NOW.
“A Duke University spokesman said that 40 percent of Duke’s engineering graduates cannot get engineering jobs. A Duke University publication suggests that the best prospect for good engineering jobs is for the U.S. government to start another major project like going to the moon.”
Nice. World Net Daily even embeds some hyperlinks in the passage to make it look authentic.
Sheesh! Do you ever take responsibility for your decisions/life?
No one seems to have told the Georgia Dept. of Ed., which thinks all students should be on college tracks, or the districts that are reducing vo-tech offerings...but it's gonna be hard to outsource plumbers, electricians, and automobile repairmen, I think.
Why do you think Bush caused this and not the market? I work for a corporation that has outsourced some of its engineering work to India simply because it’s less expensive as well as some creative jobshifting across North American. (We are under a lot of pressure from the shareholders to be “more efficient.”) And yet, they’ve not cut their North American or UK (AFAIK European too) staff — in fact we’re hiring for positions that were vacated.
There are hundreds of people chasing one or two job openings. In the mean time, the student loan people are sending me letters everyday wondering where the money that they sent to the college for my tuition is.
Iowa State has an excellent reputation. I haven’t really heard of Rose Hulman but they may have a world renown engineering program.
I hear the military is hiring.... It is unlikely you would get shot at with a masters in accounting..
Glad to hear that, just as I was wondering. Our son is a Jr at Boulder in Computer Science. He said no one is majoring in that and the field is screaming along, wide open for the soon-to-be grads.
I work in IT, and a college degree for an IT person is nearly useless. As a matter of fact the more educated people have been that Ive worked with over the years, the less ‘smart’ they are about the job.
A diploma helps an IT professional as much as it helps an auto mechanic.
My son got his MBA from Boston College in May. I can’t tell you how many job offers he got but there have been plenty. His biggest decision was which one to choose.
Either you go to college or you get a job catering to my children.
Trust me, you don't want that aggravation.
Because Bush is always peddling the free trade agreements and globalization. He is even peddling another wonderful trade deal to South Korea right now. Bush even outlawed telemarketing and then the RNC exempted themselves and also outsourced their telemarketing to India.
Believe me, I know what the globalists are doing because I have taken all of those worthless college business courses. They are maximizing profits for the shareholders. Their opinion is to screw the American Worker.
You have a Masters and you come up with this? No wonder you have a problem.
McDonald's and the Home Depot are always hiring. Pizza delivery is also a good night time gig.
Having a B.S. (that’s Bachelor of Science not Bull S**t) means your resume won’t be tossed in the garbage and you might actually get an interview.
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oh please!...there are a good number of things to be upset with GWB over...(immigration, ramos & compean, spending, not firing commies who were clinton appointees when the Bush 1st took office, etc..) but the fact that you can’t personally find a job in accounting isn’t one of them.
I have a Master’s in Bus Ad and my Bachelor’s is in accounting. Rather than look for a position in accounting or become a CPA I looked for other jobs. I was probably overqualified but the position I took and stayed with was as a faculty recruiter for a private university. They loved the fact that I had a degree that I actually had to work for. I started there with the Bachelors and they paid for the Masters.
After working there for quite a few years and reading resumes from people with Master’s and even Doctorates I relized that the money is not there for most college graduates. I talked my own daughter and nephew into trade specialties. They make a heckuva lot more money than the college grads around here.
Try looking in other areas, don’t get locked into accounting. Prospective employers may be impressed with your degree. It shows that you were willing to work hard to get it.
Bump for later. I’ve got a lot of insight to offer on this topic, but it will take some time to post it.
The reason NYC has a teacher shortage is that teachers are in physical danger at many of those public schools. Same thing in the barrio schools in L.A.
There is a dirty little secret out in the world, certain big companies are hiring MS or better only. The reason being with grade inflation, a BA is BS. Students have to pass a test to get into grad school, plus they are picky to boot.
Move to Richmond, VA. I have heard that there is huge demand for your skills in that area.
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