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Ownership change would limit hospital abortions (Two hospitals in Denver)
WorldNetDaily ^ | 12/29/07 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 12/29/2007 5:45:31 PM PST by wagglebee

The proposed sale that would transfer two Exempla Healthcare hospitals in the Denver metropolitan area to a Catholic organization that does not allow abortion and birth-control procedures at its facilities has been endorsed by Colorado Attorney General John Suthers.

The hospitals, Lutheran and Good Samaritan, soon could fall under the management of Catholic Health Care Services, which, among other things, does not provide abortions, forms of sterilization including tubal ligation and vasectomies, and emergency contraception pills, known as the abortion pill.

Suthers concluded in his legal opinion that the transfer wouldn't violate state laws concerning nonprofit groups, and that the incoming owner, Sisters of Charity Leavenworth Health System, of Lenexa, Kan., had the authority to change procedures at the hospitals, according to a Denver Post report.

"The General Assembly mandated that a single, narrow standard of review should apply in nonprofit to nonprofit hospital tranfers," he wrote. "I recognize the strong emotional and political concerns surrounding this transfer, but per the statute, those concerns cannot alter the legal standard of review."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholic; catholichospitals; hospitals; moralabsolutes; prolife
Ed Kahn's organization, the Colorado Center of Law and Policy, has filed a lawsuit over the transfer, and said services such as the abortion pill "are services that are critical for people."

No, they aren't.

1 posted on 12/29/2007 5:45:32 PM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 12/29/2007 5:46:00 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 12/29/2007 5:46:24 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 12/29/2007 5:46:49 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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5 posted on 12/29/2007 5:52:41 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: wagglebee

“Lutheran” Hospital providing abortions? Time for a new acronym: LINO—and it’s far dirtier than linoleum.


6 posted on 12/29/2007 5:57:33 PM PST by Das Outsider (Apparently TB doesn't stop at the Rio Grande either.)
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To: wagglebee
Asymmetric warfare agsinsst abortionists ? I like it.
7 posted on 12/29/2007 5:57:50 PM PST by blueheron2 (Hoist the colors!)
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To: wagglebee

Free market. It’s not like the products and medical procedures aren’t available elsewhere.


8 posted on 12/29/2007 6:01:02 PM PST by Tax-chick ("The keys to life are running and reading." ~ Will Smith)
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Bump 4 Life!


9 posted on 12/29/2007 6:24:22 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: wagglebee

Hooray!


10 posted on 12/29/2007 6:54:26 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: Das Outsider

“Lutheran” Hospital providing abortions?
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It’s a tragedy that so many “Christian” churches take lukewarm stances on abortion ,, maybe they think they will make their followers “uncomfortable” or maybe they just want to differentiate themselves from Catholics... It’s prime time for the pope to lean on his peers and take this head on... someone has to lead and this is a worldwide problem.


11 posted on 12/29/2007 6:57:10 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: Das Outsider

actually Lutheran hosp is no longer owned by the lutherans, but in reality the elca (largest body of lutherans) is quite liberal and in full communion with the episcopal church. There are a few branches of us Lutherans that still hold true to scripture like the LCMS (missouri synod), the wisconsin synod and a few others. But the majority are liberal and looney sorry to say (as a lutheran myself)


12 posted on 12/29/2007 7:01:16 PM PST by Mom MD (The scorn of fools is music to the ears of the wise)
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To: Neidermeyer
It’s a tragedy that so many “Christian” churches take lukewarm stances on abortion ,, maybe they think they will make their followers “uncomfortable” or maybe they just want to differentiate themselves from Catholics... It’s prime time for the pope to lean on his peers and take this head on... someone has to lead and this is a worldwide problem.

I don't know, it just strikes me as odd that so-called Christian hospitals even consider administering such procedures. As the society moves leftwards, I suppose it's only natural that a good many church bodies should follow suit.
13 posted on 12/29/2007 7:04:41 PM PST by Das Outsider (Apparently TB doesn't stop at the Rio Grande either.)
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To: Mom MD
actually Lutheran hosp is no longer owned by the lutherans, but in reality the elca (largest body of lutherans) is quite liberal and in full communion with the episcopal church.

I hate to be both in violation of cliche usage and punnery, but you're preaching to the choir, my friend.

There are a few branches of us Lutherans that still hold true to scripture like the LCMS (missouri synod), the wisconsin synod and a few others. But the majority are liberal and looney sorry to say (as a lutheran myself)

Interesting. This is the first time I've ever heard mention--other than my own--of WELS/ELS on FR; that is, our synod and sister synod. Your assessment is entirely correct.

I could go on--and perhaps we should.
14 posted on 12/29/2007 7:10:05 PM PST by Das Outsider (Apparently TB doesn't stop at the Rio Grande either.)
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To: Das Outsider

Im LCMS myself. Actually there are quite a few from the LCMS and WELS that post here, u see them at times on the religion threads. Good to know you are a fellow conservative lutheran (with a german name like that I should have guessed!)


15 posted on 12/29/2007 7:14:49 PM PST by Mom MD (The scorn of fools is music to the ears of the wise)
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Im LCMS myself. Actually there are quite a few from the LCMS and WELS that post here, u see them at times on the religion threads. Good to know you are a fellow conservative lutheran (with a german name like that I should have guessed!)

I've often lamented the '61 split between WELS and LCMS.

I figured that as a church body, we have around half a million--not a big number--and that I could possibly be the only WELS on FR, seeing as how LCMS and ELCA put together number in the millions! The self-proclaimed Champion of Circumstance, Jo Nuvark, was the first FReeper, in almost three years of posting, that has recognized my references to WELS/ELS.

I don't like the term "conservative" applied to the Church. Such a term is really more politically oriented than doctrinally focused. We are confessional evangelical Lutherans; heirs to the Reformation.
16 posted on 12/29/2007 7:32:45 PM PST by Das Outsider (Apparently TB doesn't stop at the Rio Grande either.)
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To: wagglebee
Pray for an end to abortion and the conversion of America to a mindset of life!

17 posted on 12/29/2007 8:26:39 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Das Outsider

Sad to relate, the liberal branch of Lutheranism, the one that approves of lesbian clergy, some living openly with their “partner” in their congregation’s parsonage, also operates pro-abortion hospitals and in general endorses so-called abortion rights.


18 posted on 12/29/2007 8:37:08 PM PST by Elsiejay
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To: wagglebee

Colorado AG Suthers did the right thing in this matter.

Now if he will investigate the Planned Parenthood
cover up of statutory rapists.

His office told Colorado RTL there was nothing it could
do, when listening to audio tape of PP telling a 13 year old
girl to call back and not state the age of her baby’s over 21 year
old dad.


19 posted on 12/29/2007 10:28:28 PM PST by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13!!!!!)
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To: Das Outsider

Come back: the mother church has NEVER wavered on this fundamental tenet, and is quite willing to receive her prodigals.

What I find truly confusing is the utter hostility shown by many Protestants when Catholicism is the topic. Isn’t protestantism simply a splinter sect of the church? Sure, some may claim that Papal Infallibility is worshipping a mere man as G_d, but that premise is WRONG!

Papal Infallibility refers to matters of CHURCH DOCTRINE, not the acts of the (undoubtedly human ergo fallible) MAN holding St. Peter’s office temporarily.


20 posted on 12/29/2007 11:11:55 PM PST by Don W ( Police were called to a day care where a three-year-old was resisting a rest.)
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21 posted on 12/30/2007 4:33:01 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Don W

not to start a flame war, but protestants could never come back to the RCC
first of all the RCC puts church hx and doctine on an even level with the Bible on authority
Then there is the worship of Mary and the move to state she is co redemptrix with Christ - Mary was favored by God but a sinner like the rest of us. She is not a perpetual virgin and had other children after Christ. There is no evidence she was assumed bodily into heaven, etc
Christ is our high priest and intercessor, we need or should ask no one else to intercede for us, not Mary, saints or any one else.
Sorry, but you said we should undo the reformation, these are a few of the main points why we cannot.


22 posted on 12/30/2007 5:16:41 AM PST by Mom MD (The scorn of fools is music to the ears of the wise)
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I was just reading an article by Alan Carlson (my fave Lutheran, BTW) who said that Martin Luther taught very strongly that contraception is a sin and an affront to God.

The question arises: are there any Lutherans around anymore who agree with Luther?

23 posted on 12/30/2007 11:00:17 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Christus natus est! O Magnum Mysterium! Christ is born! Glorify Him!)
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The question arises: are there any Lutherans around anymore who agree with Luther?

Whether or not the quote is accurately attibuted, I do.
24 posted on 12/30/2007 1:59:54 PM PST by Das Outsider (Apparently TB doesn't stop at the Rio Grande either.)
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To: Don W
Come back: the mother church has NEVER wavered on this fundamental tenet, and is quite willing to receive her prodigals

I can't come back to something I've never known, to begin with. I appreciate your sentiment, but it just isn't something that I could do in good conscience. Let us respectfully leave it at that.
25 posted on 12/30/2007 2:01:50 PM PST by Das Outsider (Apparently TB doesn't stop at the Rio Grande either.)
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To: Das Outsider
There's a bunch of Luther's anti-contraception views and quotes here at Google if you're motivated to click and look.

Much to his credit, IHVVHO!

26 posted on 12/30/2007 3:42:48 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Christus natus est! O Magnum Mysterium! Christ is born! Glorify Him!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
There's a bunch of Luther's anti-contraception views and quotes here at Google if you're motivated to click and look.

Forgive me if I'm a little bit skeptical when it comes to Luther quotes without primary source documents and/or contemporaneous citation. I've heard more than a few misquotes attributed to Dr. Luther, making him out to be slightly less than the Devil himself.

As far as contraception goes (in principle), I believe you're right.
27 posted on 12/30/2007 3:56:23 PM PST by Das Outsider (Apparently TB doesn't stop at the Rio Grande either.)
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To: wagglebee

Rut row. Socialized medicine comes to Denver Hospitals. This is the way ALL medical procedures will become under Hillary Care’s wonderful socialized medicine.


28 posted on 12/30/2007 4:08:37 PM PST by RetiredArmy (Better prepare, come Nov 08, we have a Marxist Commissar President and Marxist Congress.)
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To: wagglebee

I hear the Ob/Gyns are up in arms about this. Do they get paid for each vasectomy and tubal ligation?


29 posted on 12/31/2007 2:23:50 AM PST by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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