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Newsweak ^ | 12/29/07 | Brooks Jackson

Posted on 12/29/2007 9:10:23 PM PST by freespirited

Summary

Romney's latest ad attacks McCain in New Hampshire with false and misleading claims:

It claims McCain "voted to allow illegals to collect Social Security." That's untrue. Nobody who is in the country illegally could be paid any Social Security benefits under McCain's immigration bill.

It implies McCain supported "amnesty" for illegal immigrants. That word isn't accurate. Illegal immigrants wouldn't have received a blanket pardon under McCain's bill. Instead, they would have had to pay thousands in penalties and fees to gain legal status. In fact, in 2005 Romney called McCain's proposal "reasonable" and said it wasn't amnesty.

The ad says Romney "cut taxes" in Massachusetts. While he did cut some taxes – for example, enacting business tax credits – tax rates remained unchanged. Plus, Romney raised state revenues by hundreds of millions of dollars per year by increasing fees and closing corporate tax loopholes.

Analysis

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney announced his ad attacking Arizona Sen. John McCain Dec. 28. It is set to run in New Hampshire, where the two face each other in the Republican presidential primary scheduled for Jan. 8.

Social Security for Illegal Aliens

In contrasting supposed differences between the two men, the ad's announcer falsely states that McCain "voted to allow illegals to collect Social Security." This tired and misleading claim was used by several Republicans against Democrats in the 2006 elections. We debunked it then, and it is no more true now that it is being used to attack a Republican.

The claim is based on the immigration bill that McCain cosponsored in 2005 and 2006. The bill died, but as we said before, the measure did not propose to pay Social Security benefits to illegal immigrants, not until and unless they become U.S. citizens or are granted legal status. Under current law, illegal immigrants who work and pay Social Security taxes may later receive credit toward future benefits for the amounts they have paid, if they become legal residents or citizens. The McCain measure wouldn't have changed that.

During the immigration fight Republicans proposed an amendment that would have prevented anyone who became a legal immigrant under the McCain bill from receiving credit toward future Social Security benefits for the taxes they paid and the time they had worked while in the U.S. without legal permission. McCain was one of 11 Republicans who voted to kill that amendment.

Thus, the statement that McCain "voted to allow illegals to collect Social Security" is false. Nobody proposed to pay benefits to anyone who is in the U.S. illegally. To be accurate, the ad might have said that McCain "voted against a measure that would have denied illegal immigrants Social Security credit for their work once they gain legal status." But such a truthful statement might not strike New Hampshire voters as so damaging.

"Amnesty" Again

The Romney ad also misleads by using the inaccurate and emotionally laden term "amnesty" to describe what the immigration bill would have offered illegal immigrants. As we've said any number of times, the dictionary definition of "amnesty" is a pardon for past offenses, and the McCain bill did not offer a simple pardon. Rather, it would have imposed thousands of dollars in penalties and fees on any illegal immigrant wishing to gain legal status.

The ad's wording is technically accurate on this score. It says, "He [Romney] opposes amnesty for illegals." What's misleading is the suggestion that McCain embraces "amnesty," when he doesn't. Romney's ad might truthfully have said he currently takes a tougher line on illegal immigrants than does McCain, but characterizing his opponent as favoring "amnesty" isn't accurate.

Also, while the former governor has hardened his stance on immigration, it's worth noting that he once called the legislation for which he now attacks McCain a "reasonable" proposal. In a 2005 interview with the Boston Globe after McCain's bill was introduced, Romney also said he didn't believe the legislation granted "amnesty."

Boston Globe (March 2007): In a November 2005 interview with the Globe, Romney described immigration proposals by McCain and others as "quite different" from amnesty, because they required illegal immigrants to register with the government, work for years, pay taxes, not take public benefits, and pay a fine before applying for citizenship.

McCain's Position

McCain issued a response to the Romney attack, alluding to the somewhat tougher stand on immigration that the senator has embraced since the defeat of his immigration plans. He said he now favors securing U.S. borders and instituting a "temporary worker program" before attempting to deal "comprehensively" with immigrants currently in the U.S. illegally.

John McCain: I'm familiar with tailspins and I think he's [Romney is] in one. Look, on the issue of immigration, my position is clear: We have to secure the borders, the borders have to be secured first. As president I would have the governors in the border states certify that the borders are secure. We learned a lesson and the message is they want the borders secured first. Then we go on to a temporary worker program and addressing the issue comprehensively.

A Misleading Claim About Taxes

We also find the ad's claim that "Romney cut taxes" to be misleading. It is true that Romney proposed some income tax cuts that the Democratic-controlled Massachusetts Legislature rejected. And he did succeed in cutting some taxes – for example, he enacted property tax relief for seniors and approved business tax credits – but overall tax rates remained the same. The conservative Club for Growth said his term included "some solid efforts" but that "overall, Romney's record on tax policy is mixed." Indeed, he increased state revenues significantly.

Technically, Romney's often-repeated boast that he didn't raise taxes is true, but it's also misleading, as we discussed in our critique of the second Republican presidential debate back in May. In 2003, to help close a big budget gap, he pushed through a number of increased state fees that brought in $400 million in their first year. For example, he doubled fees for marriage licenses and other court filings. He also quintupled the per gallon delivery fee for gasoline (money that is supposed to be for cleaning up any leaks from underground fuel tanks). Romney also "closed loopholes" in the corporate tax structure, a move that generated another $150 million in increased revenue.

Romney also shifted some of the state tax burden down to the local level, by cutting local aid revenues. The Massachusetts Municipal Association, representing the state's cities and towns, said Romney's cut "forced communities statewide to cut services and raise local taxes and fees." The exact amount of the local increases hasn't been determined, but Romney at least partly avoided increasing state taxes by forcing Massachusetts cities and towns to raise theirs.

Sources

S. 2611, 109th U.S. Congress, 2nd Session.

U.S. Senate, 109th Congress, 2nd Session. Vote No. 130.

S. 1639, 110th U.S. Congress.

Helman, Scott. "Romney's words grow hard on immigration." Boston Globe. 16 Mar. 2007.

Bovbjerg, Randall R. State Responses to Budget Crises in 2004: Massachusetts. 1 Feb. 2004. The Urban Institute. 16 May 2007.

Cardozo, Carol L., et al. State Budget '04: The Long Road Back. 1 Jan. 2004. The Massachusetts Taxpayer Foundation. 16 May 2007.


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To: freespirited

You might check with backhoe - he keeps quite an archive.

The picture I remember was of McCain and his wife on a stage at a rally - and I think it was during McCain’s “shadow convention” - because he was acting like a spoil sport because he didn’t win the nomination.

I can’t help but wonder if McCain will act the same way this time when he loses.


61 posted on 12/30/2007 11:46:21 AM PST by CyberAnt (AMERICA: THE GREATEST FORCE for GOOD in the world!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

He still supports the assault weapons ban. That’s a deal-breaker for me.


62 posted on 12/30/2007 3:06:50 PM PST by lesser_satan (READ MY LIPS: NO NEW RINOS | FRED THOMPSON - DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: freespirited
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63 posted on 12/30/2007 5:09:02 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: lesser_satan

Yes, he supports it, and if it passes his desk, he’ll probably sign it, just like Bush would. That nothing has come to Bush in the 7 years he’s said he’d sign it suggests it won’t happen.

Still, Romney understands the right to keep and bear arms includes the right to have them with you for protection. Fred Thompson has said he supports allowing states to prohibit people from carrying their weapons for protection on public college campuses.

This is important in my state, where a gunman killed 32 people because nobody was allowed to have a weapon to stop him. Our state prohibits it’s citizens from having their weapons to defend themselves, and Fred Thompson said in response to a question that he supported allowing states to ban weapons from campuses.

So which is worse, not being able to buy a few guns that, if you wanted, you could purchase right now (the AWB didn’t require you to turn in weapons, it just kept you from buying in the future), or not being able to carry your weapon for protection?

Every candidate is a compromise, except maybe Hunter on this issue.

Meanwhile, Fred Thompson is a speech-grabber, having banned EVERY citizen from their free speech rights under the 1st amendment. Taking away the right to purchase a couple of more guns from the few people who would want to do so is bad, but not nearly as bad as taking away the 1st amendment rights to speech from EVERY SINGLE CITIZEN, at precisely the time (right before an election) that it is most important.


64 posted on 12/30/2007 5:14:26 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: freespirited
Illegal immigrants wouldn't have received a blanket pardon under McCain's bill. Instead, they would have had to pay thousands in penalties and fees to gain legal status. In fact, in 2005 Romney called McCain's proposal "reasonable" and said it wasn't amnesty.

Under the McKennedy Amnesty plan, the invaders would only have to pay $2000 for U.S. citizenship. Less than the average cost that they pay a coyote to smuggle them over the border.

65 posted on 01/02/2008 11:47:07 AM PST by Mogollon
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To: Donnaplume
McCain is an amnesty father. He is unfit to be President. Mitt is one I could easily support.

Welcome to FR. I look forward to your departure after Flip is defeated.
66 posted on 01/02/2008 11:48:48 AM PST by Antoninus (If you want the national GOP to look more like the Massachusetts GOP, vote for Flip Romney)
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To: freespirited

Then you are in luck since it looks like it won’t happen...


67 posted on 01/02/2008 11:50:48 AM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: ansel12

Romney maybe derailing himself in a most interesting way...


68 posted on 01/02/2008 11:57:37 AM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: JMack
If he could barely buy it with $25-50 mil in Iowa, he will not be able to dump enough cash per state down south where resistance to him is stronger, to win.

Yes indeed. That is Romney's Achilles heel. His ROI is way skewed and the GOP money boys see that.

That is something "self funding" can't help, and indeed makes it much worse.

69 posted on 01/02/2008 12:00:57 PM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: Antoninus

One great thing about tonight is that you can see Mc Kennedy slithering out of sight for the winter. He tried to FLIP on AMNESTY but the people of Iowa were not fooled and he is gone except in Democrap states where he will find solice.


70 posted on 01/03/2008 8:15:08 PM PST by Donnaplume
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