Myth Romney and sHuckster. They deserve each other.
I’m no Mitt fan, but when he says that McCain supported Amnesty for illegals, he is spot on. McCain wrote the Amnesty bill for Pete’s sake. And under McCain’s bill after a quick touch back and citizenship application illegals would have indeed been eligible for social security benefits. McCain is Mr. Amnesty plain and simple.
Of course, Romney is only a half step behind in his support of Amnesty.
Newsweek? The libs at Newspeak want to see Romney defeated so they can get someone they can dismantle in the general election, like Huckabee or Giuliani.
Newsweek now shilling for McCain. Everthing Mitt sad is accurate. Why do you keep posting articles from the leftest MSM who obviously want McCain to derail Romney?
During the immigration fight Republicans proposed an amendment that would have prevented anyone who became a legal immigrant under the McCain bill from receiving credit toward future Social Security benefits for the taxes they paid and the time they had worked while in the U.S. without legal permission. McCain was one of 11 Republicans who voted to kill that amendment.
McCain was ready and willing to shell out the social security to freshly approved "immigrants" (which was basically all illegal aliens who applied for "Z visas" under his bill) and credit them for "time served" as illegal aliens.
McCain is a loser.
Only Thompson and Hunter would give us a conservative approach to government.
Yea what word isn't accurate? Amnesty, illegal, supported, or immigrants? Cause McCain supported amnesty for illegal immigrants.
By the way, what is this bogus “factcheck.org”?
Is that a McCain outfit?
I usually agree with FactCheck, but not always. This is one of those cases.
First, on Social Security for illegals. It is true that the Republicans tried to make it so illegals could not EARN social security while they were illegal, and McCain blocked them.
It is also true that illegals living in the United States could not collect that social security unless they became legal.
BUT, we have an arrangement with Mexico, where credited social security benefits are passed to Mexico for their citizens. Because of McCain’s blocking the amendment, those benefits would have included social security earned by illegals, to be paid to them by the United States through money sent to Mexico.
Therefore, McCain’s vote meant that illegals would get paid Social Security. ROmney is right, FactCheck (and McCain)were wrong.
On the second issue, amnesty. It is true that, as FactCheck says, in order to get citizenship or permanent legal resident status, you had to pay fines.
However, the bill that was about to pass in the Senate, which McCain was sponsoring, had another provision. If you were here illegally, you could file paperwork to get a temporary visa, and you just had to pay a fee for the paperwork, which is NOT a criminal penalty.
You may also have been forced to pay your taxes, but taxes are not a penalty, we all have to pay them.
So McCain’s bill provided “amnesty”, in that an illegal could stay here for years with a real visa, and therefore be “legal” for a time period, without having to pay any penalties — the definition of “amnesty”.
I would also note FURTHER that the bill originally considered, the one that was talked about at the time Romney said he thought the bill sounded reasonable, did not have the de-facto amnesty.
In fact, most people didn’t know it was in THIS version until Jeff Sessions put out his fine paper detailing all the bad things in the bill.
So I’m sorry, Factcheck was wrong, as we pointed out before, and just because they are goring Romney now is no reason to abandon our principles and agree with them.
But it's all OK. Let him dig his own political grave.
1. "It claims McCain "voted to allow illegals to collect Social Security." That's untrue. Nobody who is in the country illegally could be paid any Social Security benefits under McCain's immigration bill."
Nobody who is in the country illegally under McCain could be paid any Social Security benefits...well,duh, McCain would makes the illegals LEGAL, then give them Social Security benefits. This shot at Mitt misses, Romney is correct.
2."It implies McCain supported "amnesty" for illegal immigrants. That word isn't accurate. Illegal immigrants wouldn't have received a blanket pardon under..."
Only devious dishonest people define amnesty as a "blanket pardon". This shot also misses. This assault on Mitt is oh for two, I didn't bother to read further.
Full disclosure, my GOP candidates go in this order: Hunter, Thompson, Romney, Guliani, Paul, McCain.
Integrity does not require parsing.
More Newsweak propoganda. You've got to wonder when they come to the defense of McCain. Mitt is certainly not as good as Duncan Hunter or Fred Thompson on this issue, but at least he gets popular demands for border enforcement first.
If we are in the business of selling American citizenship for token fines, then at least we could sell it to people from Asia willing to pay more. < / sarcasm >
I agree - I do not trust anyone who is willing to work with Ted Kennedy on anything.
And .. let us never forget that McCain considered being John [I was in Vietnam] Kerry’s running mate. What does that say about McCain’s character ..? To think that McCain would take sides with such a traitor to our military, is mind boggling..
McCain is a snake in the grass .. and when he was campaigning in 2000 - HIS WIFE WAS WEARING A “HILLARY” PIN. What does that say about McCain’s relationships with democrats.
The following links posted by raving utter and lifted by me
More links I found...
Under the McKennedy Amnesty plan, the invaders would only have to pay $2000 for U.S. citizenship. Less than the average cost that they pay a coyote to smuggle them over the border.
Then you are in luck since it looks like it won’t happen...