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The Profession Of Death (How Islamofascism Wrecks Muslim Societies Alert)
Jerusalem Post ^ | 12/31/2007 | Barry Rubin

Posted on 12/30/2007 3:54:38 PM PST by goldstategop

Much will be said about Benazir Bhutto's assassination; little will be understood about what it truly means. I'm not speaking here about Pakistan, of course, as important as that country is, but rather the lesson - as if we needed any more - for that broad Middle East which begins in Pakistan and ends on the Atlantic Ocean coast.

The following is a true story. Back in 1946, an American diplomat asked an Iranian editor why his newspaper angrily criticized the United States but never the Soviet Union. The Iranian said it was obvious. "The Russians," he said, "they kill people."

A dozen years earlier, in 1933, Iraqi official Sami Shawkat gave a talk which became one of the most famous texts of Arab nationalism. "There is something more important than money and learning for preserving the honor of a nation and for keeping humiliation at bay," he stated. "That is strength... strength, as I use the word here, means to excel in the Profession of Death."

What, you might ask, was Shawkat's own profession? He was director-general of Iraq's Ministry of Education. This was how young people were to be taught and directed; this is where Saddam Hussein came from. Seventy-five years later, the subsequent history of Iraq and the rest of the Arab world shows just how well Shawkat did his job.

September 11 in the United States; the Bali bombing for Australia; the tube bombing for Britain; the commuter train bombing for Spain, these were all merely byproducts of this pathology. The pathology in question is not Western policy toward the Middle East but rather Middle Eastern policy toward the Middle East.

WHEN I read Shawkat's words as a student, the phrase "profession of death," which gave his article its title, struck me as a pun. On one hand, the word "profession" meant "career." To be a killer - note well that Shawkat was not talking specifically about soldiers, those who fight, but rather those who murder - was the highest calling of all. It was more important than being a teacher, who forms character; more important than being a businessperson, who enriches his country; more important than being a doctor who preserves the life of fellow-citizens.

Destruction was a higher calling than construction. And, for sure, in the Arabic-speaking world what has been reaped is what has been sowed.

But, also, the word "profession" here reminds me of "to profess," or "to preach." When the greatest value for an educator is to preach and glorify death, what kind of ideology, what kind of society, what kind of values, does such a priority produce? Look and see.

LIKE CHILDREN playing with dynamite, Western intellectuals, journalists and diplomats fantasize that they are achieving results in the Middle East with their words, promises, apologies, money and concessions. Yet how can such innocents cope despite - or perhaps because of - all their good intentions with polities and societies whose basic ruling ethos is that of the serial killer?

And what can be achieved when those who are the most forward-looking and most creative, who want to break with the ideas and methods creating a disastrous mess, the stagnant system which characterizes so much of the Middle East, are systematically murdered?

Read the roll: King Abdullah of Jordan, President Anwar Sadat of Egypt, former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri of Lebanon, bold author Farouk Fawda in Egypt, Iraqi Sunnis who dare seek compromise, Palestinian moderates, Algerian modernists, and thousands of women who seek a moderate degree of freedom.

The radicals are right: Dying is a disincentive. And for every one killed, how many thousands give in; and for every one threatened, how many hundreds give in?

Seventy-five years after Shawkat, Hamas television teaches Palestinian children in the Gaza Strip that their highest aspiration should be to become a suicide bomber, with success measured by how many Jews are killed. And, by the way, the Palestinian Authority's television in the West Bank sends a similar message, albeit not quite as often.

Will billions of dollars in aid to the PA change anything when the men with the guns take what they want? Are PA chief Mahmoud Abbas and Prime Minister Salam Fayyad, respectively a timid bureaucrat and a well-meaning economist, going to take a bullet for lifting one finger to get a compromise peace with Israel? How are you going to get a government of national conciliation in Iraq when the insurgents have shown they can gun down any Sunni politician or cleric who steps out of line?

THE CURRENT supporters of the Lebanese government are probably the bravest politicians in the Arabic-speaking world, men willing to defy death. But how can they stand firm when Western governments rush to engage with the Syrian government that murder them, and Western media proclaim the moderation of a Damascus ruler who systematically kills those who oppose him?

Can anyone really expect a stable society capable of progress in Pakistan when a large majority of the population expresses admiration for Bin Laden? And what about the Saudi system where, as one local writer put it, the big Osama put into practice what the little Osama learned in a Saudi school?

Get it? The radical forces in the region are not expecting to retain or gain power by negotiating, compromising, or being better understood. They believe they are going to shoot their way into power or, just as good, accept the surrender of those they have intimidated.

That is why so much of the Western analysis and strategies for dealing with the region are a bad joke. Osama bin Laden understands that, as he once said, people are going to back the strongest horse in the race. Yet according to all too many people in the Western elites, the way to win is to be the nicest horse.

DOESN'T THIS assessment sound terribly depressing and hopeless? Well, yes and no.

Radical Islamists like to proclaim that they will triumph because they love death while their enemies - that is, soon-to-be-victims - love life. But the Islamists need to be careful what they wish for, though, because they will probably get it.

For those who love death, the reward is death. For those who love life, the outcomes include decent educational systems, living standards, individual rights, and strong economic systems.

All these things, and others that go along with them, are what really produce strength. And isn't it interesting that, contrary to Shawkat, the nations that put the priority on these things enjoy far more honor and suffer far less humiliation than happens with his model.

The profession of death has wrecked most Middle Eastern societies. But it has never succeeded in defeating a free society. It is not an effective tactic for destroying others, only for devastating one's own people.

Who killed Benazir Bhutto? The Sami Shawkat philosophy: alike in its Arab nationalist, Islamist, and Pakistani authoritarian versions, which dominate Middle East politics.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
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Islamofascism and its love of death has destroyed Muslim societies by depriving them of their future and leaving them mired in theocratic repression, personal fear and national malaise. Death becomes a self-perpetuating cycle as it develops into a form of escape from the conditions that spawn and sustain it. Such societies can never develop the talents of their own people or that of the West. Steeped in self-hatred, they can only wither and die of their own self-inflicted fanaticism. Such is the price paid for following the Islamofascists' call to immolate oneself in the service of the jihad which while it supposedly leads to the heavenly paradise is in a fact a dead end to a better life on earth.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 12/30/2007 3:54:41 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

It is easier to die for ones country than it is to live for it.

The Islamicists offer an easy and simple solution... that is false.


2 posted on 12/30/2007 4:02:37 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
They offer a means of avenging yourself upon the enemy by blowing him up along with you. But terror is only a temporary form of satisfaction. It never treats the shame that compels one to seek death to to purge it from one's psyche. The death cult is a dead end.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 12/30/2007 4:06:17 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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I remember bin Laden and Zaraqawi saying that Americans love life, and true Muslims love death. That is why they think they will win.

In one sense, they are right, in that the ruthless killer has an advantage over the compassionate helper. We will not return ruthless death with ruthless death.

How can they think it is "godly" to kill unbelievers? How can they think it is "heavenly" to blow up innocent people?

The heaven they buy is the heaven they will get. The society they buy is the society they will get. Mohammed can't be reached for comment.

4 posted on 12/30/2007 4:10:50 PM PST by Sender (You are the weapon. What you hold in your hand is just a tool.)
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THE CURRENT supporters of the Lebanese government are probably the bravest politicians in the Arabic-speaking world, men willing to defy death. But how can they stand firm when Western governments rush to engage with the Syrian government that murder them

Like, for example, Arlen Specter, Patches Kennedy and our own Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi.

5 posted on 12/30/2007 4:14:08 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: goldstategop
Excellent analysis of the Islamic terrorism problem.

"The following is a true story. Back in 1946, an American diplomat asked an Iranian editor why his newspaper angrily criticized the United States but never the Soviet Union. The Iranian said it was obvious. 'The Russians,' he said, 'they kill people.'"

A while back, Rush Limbaugh posed a question. The question was "What would the Middle East look like now had the Jihadists chosen to do a 9-11 on Peking." The key to that answer resides in the previous paragraph.

6 posted on 12/30/2007 4:15:15 PM PST by davisfh
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To: Sender
Their ruthlessness and violence only keeps their societies backward. They offer no positive vision on how to make life better for the majority of people who live in their part of the world. All they can do is keep things they way they are through force and in the long run they will fall even further behind developed societies. Islamofascists have not once brought the West on its knees - not even on 9/11.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

7 posted on 12/30/2007 4:16:21 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Great Article and very true. Unfortunately the only way to stop it is to start with the young and make sure they do not grow into a religion of death. PC be damned.


8 posted on 12/30/2007 4:21:36 PM PST by WVNight (We havn't played Cowboys and Muslims yet....)
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To: goldstategop
Great article!
But it has never succeeded in defeating a free society.
And it won't until it gets The Bomb and the means to deliver it. Then plenty of free societies will be defeated unless they have the common sense to act soon.
9 posted on 12/30/2007 4:23:17 PM PST by LibWhacker (Democrats are phony Americans)
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To: goldstategop

These days, Muslim society is an oxymoron.


10 posted on 12/30/2007 4:26:16 PM PST by sono (Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.)
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To: marktwain

there was an incident some thirty years ago when a Soviet diplomat was kidnapped by some muzzies. the KGB got involved to find the perps and their relatives. it didn’t go well for the perps’ relatives and the diplomat was released.

i don’t recall the specifics. can someone out there refresh my memory?


11 posted on 12/30/2007 4:31:52 PM PST by tired1 (responsibility without authority is slavery!)
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To: goldstategop

Qur’an:9:88 “The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah’s Cause.”

Qur’an:9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

Qur’an:9:112 “The Believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed.”

Qur’an:9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”

Ishaq:325 “Muslims, fight in Allah’s Cause. Stand firm and you will prosper. Help the Prophet, obey him, give him your allegiance, and your religion will be victorious.”

Qur’an:8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”

Qur’an:8:39 “So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world).”

Ishaq:324 “He said, ‘Fight them so that there is no more rebellion, and religion, all of it, is for Allah only. Allah must have no rivals.’”

Qur’an:9:14 “Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, lay them low, and cover them with shame. He will help you over them.”

Ishaq:300 “I am fighting in Allah’s service. This is piety and a good deed. In Allah’s war I do not fear as others should. For this fighting is righteous, true, and good.”

Ishaq:587 “Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight until our religion is established. And we will plunder them, for they must suffer disgrace.”

Qur’an:8:65 “O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding.”

Ishaq:326 “Prophet exhort the believers to fight. If there are twenty good fighters they will defeat two hundred for they are a senseless people. They do not fight with good intentions nor for truth.”

Bukhari:V4B52N63 “A man whose face was covered with an iron mask came to the Prophet and said, ‘Allah’s Apostle! Shall I fight or embrace Islam first?’ The Prophet said, ‘Embrace Islam first and then fight.’ So he embraced Islam, and was martyred. Allah’s Apostle said, ‘A Little work, but a great reward.’”

Bukhari:V4B53N386 “Our Prophet, the Messenger of our Lord, ordered us to fight you till you worship Allah alone or pay us the Jizyah tribute tax in submission. Our Prophet has informed us that our Lord says: ‘Whoever amongst us is killed as a martyr shall go to Paradise to lead such a luxurious life as he has never seen, and whoever survives shall become your master.’”

Muslim:C34B20N4668 “The Messenger said: ‘Anybody who equips a warrior going to fight in the Way of Allah is like one who actually fights. And anybody who looks after his family in his absence is also like one who actually fights.”

Qur’an:9:38 “Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah’s Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place.”

Qur’an:9:123 “Fight the unbelievers around you, and let them find harshness in you.”

Qur’an:8:72 “Those who accepted Islam and left their homes to fight in Allah’s Cause with their possessions and persons, and those who gave (them) asylum, aid, and shelter, those who harbored them - these are allies of one another. You are not responsible for protecting those who embraced Islam but did not leave their homes [to fight] until they do so.” [Another translation reads:] “You are only called to protect Muslims who fight.”

Muslim:C9B1N31 “I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify to the fact that there is no god but Allah, and believe in me (that) I am the Messenger and in all that I have brought.”

Bukhari:V9B84N59 “Whoever says this will save his property and life from me.’”

Qur’an:8:73 “The unbelieving infidels are allies. Unless you (Muslims) aid each other (fighting as one united block to make Allah’s religion victorious), there will be confusion and mischief. Those who accepted Islam, left their homes to fight in Allah’s Cause (al-Jihad), as well as those who give them asylum, shelter, and aid - these are (all) Believers: for them is pardon and bountiful provision (in Paradise).”

Tabari IX:69 “Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah’s helpers and the viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they believe in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in the Cause of Allah. Killing him is a small matter to us.”

Qur’an:48:16 “Say (Muhammad) to the wandering desert Arabs who lagged behind: ‘You shall be invited to fight against a people given to war with mighty prowess. You shall fight them until they surrender and submit. If you obey, Allah will grant you a reward, but if you turn back, as you did before, He will punish you with a grievous torture.”

Qur’an:48:22 “If the unbelieving infidels fight against you, they will retreat. (Such has been) the practice (approved) of Allah in the past: no change will you find in the ways of Allah.”

Qur’an:47:4 “When you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah’s Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam.”

Qur’an:47:31 “And We shall try you until We know those among you who are the fighters.”

Tabari VI:138 “Those present at the oath of Aqabah had sworn an allegiance to Muhammad. It was a pledge of war against all men. Allah had permitted fighting.”

Tabari VI:139 “Allah had given his Messenger permission to fight by revealing the verse ‘And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah.’”

Qur’an:9:19 “Do you make the giving of drink to pilgrims, or the maintenance of the Mosque, equal to those who fight in the Cause of Allah? They are not comparable in the sight of Allah. Those who believe, and left their homes, striving with might, fighting in Allah’s Cause with their goods and their lives, have the highest rank in the sight of Allah.”

Ishaq:550 “The Muslims met them with their swords. They cut through many arms and skulls. Only confused cries and groans could be heard over our battle roars and snarling.”

Qur’an:5:94 “Believers, Allah will make a test for you in the form of a little game in which you reach out for your lances. Any who fails this test will have a grievous punishment.”

Ishaq:578 “Crushing the heads of the infidels and splitting their skulls with sharp swords, we continually thrust and cut at the enemy. Blood gushed from their deep wounds as the battle wore them down. We conquered bearing the Prophet’s fluttering war banner. Our cavalry was submerged in rising dust, and our spears quivered, but by us the Prophet gained victory.”

Tabari IX:22 “The Prophet continued to besiege the town, fighting them bitterly.”

Tabari IX:25 “By Allah, I did not come to fight for nothing. I wanted a victory over Ta’if so that I might obtain a slave girl from them and make her pregnant.”

Tabari IX:82 “The Messenger sent Khalid with an army of 400 to Harith [a South Arabian tribe] and ordered him to invite them to Islam for three days before he fought them. If they were to respond and submit, he was to teach them the Book of Allah, the Sunnah of His Prophet, and the requirements of Islam. If they should decline, then he was to fight them.”

Tabari IX:88 “Abdallah Azdi came to the Messenger, embraced Islam, and became a good Muslim. Allah’s Apostle invested Azdi with the authority over those who had surrendered and ordered him to fight the infidels from the tribes of Yemen. Azdi left with an army by the Messenger’s command. The Muslims besieged them for a month. Then they withdrew, setting a trap. When the Yemenites went in pursuit, Azdi was able to inflict a heavy loss on them.”

Ishaq:530 “Get out of his way, you infidel unbelievers. Every good thing goes with the Apostle. Lord, I believe in his word. We will fight you about its interpretations as we have fought you about its revelation with strokes that will remove heads from shoulders and make enemies of friends.”

Muslim:C9B1N29 “Command For Fighting Against People So Long As They Do Not Profess That There Is No Ilah (God) But Allah And Muhammad Is His Messenger: When the Messenger breathed his last and Bakr was appointed Caliph, many Arabs chose to become apostates [rejected Islam]. Abu Bakr said: ‘I will definitely fight against anyone who stops paying the Zakat tax, for it is an obligation. I will fight against them even to secure the cord used for hobbling the feet of a camel which they used to pay if they withhold it now.’ Allah had justified fighting against those who refused to pay Zakat.”

Muslim:C9B1N33 “The Prophet said: ‘I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prostration prayer, and pay Zakat. If they do it, their blood and property are protected.’”

Muslim:C10B1N176 “Muhammad (may peace be upon him) sent us in a raiding party. We raided Huraqat in the morning. I caught hold of a man and he said: ‘There is no god but Allah,’ but I attacked him with a spear anyway. It once occurred to me that I should ask the Apostle about this. The Messenger said: ‘Did he profess “There is no god but Allah,” and even then you killed him?’ I said: ‘He made a profession out of the fear of the weapon I was threatening him with.’ The Prophet said: ‘Did you tear out his heart in order to find out whether it had professed truly or not?’”

Muslim:C20B1N4597 “The Prophet said at the conquest of Mecca: ‘There is no migration now, but only Jihad, fighting for the Cause of Islam. When you are asked to set out on a Jihad expedition, you should readily do so.’”

Muslim:C28B20N4628 “Allah has undertaken to provide for one who leaves his home to fight for His Cause and to affirm the truth of His word; Allah will either admit him to Paradise or will bring him back home with his reward and booty.”

Muslim:C28B20N4629 “The Messenger said: ‘One who is wounded in the Way of Allah - and Allah knows best who is wounded in His Way - will appear on the Day of Judgment with his wound still bleeding. The color (of its discharge) will be blood, (but) its smell will be musk.’”

Muslim:C34B20N4652-3 “The Merit Of Jihad And Of Keeping Vigilance Over The Enemy: A man came to the Holy Prophet and said: ‘Who is the best of men?’ He replied: ‘A man who fights staking his life and spending his wealth in Allah’s Cause.’”

Muslim:C42B20N4684 “A desert Arab came to the Prophet and said: ‘Messenger, one man fights for the spoils of war; another fights that he may be remembered, and one fights that he may see his (high) position (achieved as a result of his valor in fighting). Which of these is fighting in the Cause of Allah?’ The Messenger of Allah said: ‘Who fights so that the word of Allah is exalted is fighting in the Way of Allah.’”

Muslim:C53B20N4717 “The Prophet said: ‘This religion will continue to exist, and a group of people from the Muslims will continue to fight for its protection until the Hour is established.’”

Bukhari:V5B59N288 “I witnessed a scene that was dearer to me than anything I had ever seen. Aswad came to the Prophet while Muhammad was urging the Muslims to fight the pagans. He said, ‘We shall fight on your right and on your left and in front of you and behind you.’ I saw the face of the Prophet getting bright with happiness, for that saying delighted him.”

Bukhari:V5B59N290 “The believers who did not join the Ghazwa [Islamic raid or invasion] and those who fought are not equal in reward.”

Qur’an:2:193 “Fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief) and religion is only for Allah. But if they cease/desist, let there be no hostility except against infidel disbelievers.”

Qur’an:2:217 “They question you concerning fighting in the sacred month. Say: ‘Fighting therein is a grave (matter); but to prevent access to Allah, to deny Him, to prevent access to the Sacred Mosque, to expel its members, and polytheism are worse than slaughter. Nor will they cease fighting you until they make you renegades from your religion. If any of you turn back and die in unbelief, your works will be lost and you will go to Hell. Surely those who believe and leave their homes to fight in Allah’s Cause have the hope of Allah’s mercy.”

Qur’an:2:244 “Fight in Allah’s Cause, and know that Allah hears and knows all.”

Qur’an:2:246 “He said: ‘Would you refrain from fighting if fighting were prescribed for you?’ They said: ‘How could we refuse to fight in Allah’s Cause?’”

Ishaq:280 “The Apostle prepared for war in pursuance of Allah’s command to fight his enemies and to fight the infidels who Allah commanded him to fight.”

Qur’an:61:2 “O Muslims, why say one thing and do another? Grievously odious and hateful is it in the sight of Allah that you say that which you do not. Truly Allah loves those who fight in His Cause in a battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure.”

Bukhari:V4B52N61 “Allah’s Apostle! We were absent from the first battle you fought against the pagans. If Allah gives us a chance to do battle, no doubt, He will see how bravely we fight.”

Ishaq:398 “Ask them for their help. Thereby make the religion of Islam agreeable to them. And when you are resolved in the matter of religion concerning fighting your enemy you will have the advantage.”

Qur’an:3:146 “How many prophets fought in Allah’s Cause? With them (fought) myriads of godly men who were slain. They never lost heart if they met with disaster in Allah’s Cause, nor did they weaken nor give in. Allah loves those who are firm and steadfast [warriors].”

Ishaq:393 “How many prophets has death in battle befallen and how many multitudes with him? They did not show weakness toward their enemies and were not humiliated when they suffered in the fight for Allah and their religion. That is steadfastness. Allah loves the steadfast.”

Qur’an:3:153 “Behold! You ran off precipitately, climbing up the high hill without even casting a side glance at anyone, while the Messenger in your rear is calling you from your rear, urging you to fight. Allah gave you one distress after another by way of requital, to teach you not to grieve for the booty that had escaped you and for (the ill) that had befallen you.”

Qur’an:3:154 “Say: ‘Even if you had remained in your houses, those ordained to be slaughtered would have gone forth to the places where they were to slain.”

Ishaq:440 “Helped by the Holy Spirit we smited Muhammad’s foes. The Apostle sent a message to them with a sharp cutting sword.”

Ishaq:470 “We attacked them fully armed, swords in hand, cutting through heads and skulls.”

Qur’an:61:4 “Surely Allah loves those who fight in His Cause.”

Qur’an:61:11 “Believers, shall I lead you to a bargain or trade that will save you from a painful torment? That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), and that you strive and fight in Allah’s Cause with your property and your lives: That will be best for you!” Qur’an 61:12 “He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens under which rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Eden: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement. And another (favor) which you love: help from Allah for a speedy victory over your enemies.”

Qur’an:8:5 “Your Lord ordered you out of your homes to fight for the true cause, even though some Muslims disliked it, and were averse (to fighting).”

Qur’an:24:53 “They swear their strongest oaths saying that if only you would command them. They would leave their homes (and go forth fighting in Allah’s Cause). Say: ‘Swear not; Obedience is (more) reasonable.’”

Qur’an:4:74 “Let those who fight in Allah’s Cause sell this world’s life for the hereafter. To him who fights in Allah’s Cause, whether he is slain or victorious, We shall give him a reward.”

Qur’an:4:75 “What reason have you that you should not fight in Allah’s Cause?” [Another translation says:] “What is wrong with you that you do not fight for Allah?”

Qur’an:4:76 “Those who believe fight in the Cause of
Allah.”

Qur’an:4:77 “Have you not seen those to whom it was said: Withhold from fighting, perform the prayer and pay the zakat. But when orders for fighting were issued, a party of them feared men as they ought to have feared Allah. They say: ‘Our Lord, why have You ordained fighting for us, why have You made war compulsory?’”

Qur’an:4:78 “Wherever you are, death will find you, even if you are in towers strong and high! So what is wrong with these people, that they fail to understand these simple words?”

Qur’an:4:84 “Then fight (Muhammad) in Allah’s Cause. Incite the believers to fight with you.”

Qur’an:4:94 “Believers, when you go abroad to fight wars in Allah’s Cause, investigate carefully, and say not to anyone who greets you: ‘You are not a believer!’ Coveting the chance profits of this life (so that you may despoil him). With Allah are plenteous spoils and booty.”

Qur’an:4:95 “Not equal are believers who sit home and receive no hurt and those who fight in Allah’s Cause with their wealth and lives. Allah has granted a grade higher to those who fight with their possessions and bodies to those who sit home. Those who fight He has distinguished with a special reward.”

Qur’an:4:100 “He who leaves his home in Allah’s Cause finds abundant resources and many a refuge. Should he die as a refugee for Allah and His Messenger His reward becomes due and sure with Allah. When you travel through the earth there is no blame on you if you curtail your worship for fear unbelievers may attack you. In truth the disbelievers are your enemy.”

Qur’an:4:102 “When you (Prophet) lead them in prayer, let some stand with you, taking their arms with them. When they finish their prostrations, let them take positions in the rear. And let others who have not yet prayed come - taking all precaution, and bearing arms. The Infidels wish, if you were negligent of your arms, to assault you in a rush. But there is no blame on you if you put away your arms because of the inconvenience of rain or because you are ill; but take precaution. For the Unbelieving Infidels Allah hath prepared a humiliating punishment.”

Qur’an:4:104 “And do not relent in pursuing the enemy.”

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Quotes.Islam


12 posted on 12/30/2007 4:33:52 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: goldstategop
The Palestinian situation is the best example of your point. Countless rich Arab countries could have improved life for the Palestinians for the past 60 years, but they didn't. The Palestinians themselves could have evolved, but they didn't. There is no vision other than the complete elimination of Israel. And if that happened (which will not happen), I have no doubt that the whole of Israel would be stripped for its hardware and lightbulbs, and there would still be no Palestinian economy.

I hate to use the cliché of comparing radical Islam to cancer, but it's hard to find a better example. It is a disease that insures that the only cells that survive are terror cells. Children are indoctrinated early, then immersed in hateful dogma. Progress and initiative are denied as ungodliness. Even music and art are stricken. No wonder there are no Palestinian space stations; they are too busy screwing themselves up here on Earth.

13 posted on 12/30/2007 4:35:16 PM PST by Sender (You are the weapon. What you hold in your hand is just a tool.)
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To: marktwain

found a link with an abstract:
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htintel/articles/20061010.aspx

“Back in the 1980s, for example, Islamic terrorists in Lebanon kidnapped a Russian diplomat. The Russians (then the Soviets, a distinction without much difference in these matters) quickly found out which faction had their guy, kidnapped a relative of one of the kidnappers, and had a body part delivered to the Islamic kidnappers. The message was, release the Russian diplomat unharmed, or the KGB (Soviet secret police) would keep sending body parts, and grabbing kinfolk of the kidnappers. The Russian diplomat was released. Apparently that lesson has been forgotten, at least in some parts of Iraq.”


14 posted on 12/30/2007 4:38:27 PM PST by tired1 (responsibility without authority is slavery!)
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To: sono

Can anyone name one moslem country that is not a 3rd world hell hole?


15 posted on 12/30/2007 4:40:14 PM PST by kalee
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To: goldstategop
"Islamofascism Wrecks Muslim Societies"

Huh? That's like saying: Death makes dying a bad thing.


16 posted on 12/30/2007 4:41:15 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: kalee

Well, there IS Dubai ...


17 posted on 12/30/2007 5:06:59 PM PST by sono (Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.)
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To: goldstategop; motoman; mgist; gpapa; roughman; Not gonna take it anymore; GOP Poet; Apparatchik; ...
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18 posted on 12/30/2007 5:07:51 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Bahbah

“Yet according to all too many people in the Western elites, the way to win is to be the nicest horse.”

Like for example the sissies in TROP Bush Administration?


19 posted on 12/30/2007 5:08:55 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: goldstategop; All
Quotation of the Decade? Gregory Smith offers this Churchill comment on that great religion we are now fighting against, from The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248 50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property (either as a child, a wife, or a concubine) must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.

Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science‹the science against which it had vainly struggled‹the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."

20 posted on 12/30/2007 5:09:23 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: goldstategop
(How Islamofascism Wrecks Muslim Societies Alert)
I disagree.

I think it should read:

How Islam Wrecks Humanity

21 posted on 12/30/2007 5:15:51 PM PST by samtheman (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: I see my hands

Your tax dollars is feeding Islam in the prison system all across the USA. Your tax dollars is feeding Islam in Palestine. Your tax dollars is rebuilding an Islamic society in Iraq today. Your tax dollars is trying to rebuild Afghanistan today. U. S. authorities reached an agreement with Saudi Arabia, the world’s largest oil producer, to sell oil for U. S. dollars, exclusively, for all worldwide transactions. This means U. S. dollars are figuratively backed with OPEC oil rather than gold. Thus was born the “petrodollar”. In return, the U.S. promised to protect the OPEC countries from foreign invasion or domestic coup. Remember Kuwait?
Hillary Clinton is shadowed by a Muslim Huma Abedin or vice versa.
You have a Muslim apostate running for office of President Barack obama.

You have atheist in America trying to destroy everything Christain and uplift everything secular.
Your ansestors did a great job of building the Greatest Nation on Earth and the left along with other religious cults will tell you they love America just not the people that actually built the country. You are left to figure the last part of the puzzle out.


22 posted on 12/30/2007 5:18:17 PM PST by Mojohemi
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To: Mojohemi

You like Trivia? Muslims are Saracens do you agree?
Did you know that the word (Saracen) means people without Sarah or people not from Sarah? Hagar is the Mother of all Saracens.


23 posted on 12/30/2007 5:26:41 PM PST by Mojohemi
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To: goldstategop

But...but....but Nancy Pelosi assured me that the road to Damascus was the road to peace! I’m so confused.


24 posted on 12/30/2007 5:32:16 PM PST by Free State Four
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To: goldstategop

to post 7

>Their ruthlessness and violence only keeps their societies backward.<

they like it that way.

These people are tribal.
They want their tribe to be on the winning side,
other stuff matters less.


25 posted on 12/30/2007 5:35:17 PM PST by patch789
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To: goldstategop
Read the roll: King Abdullah of Jordan, President Anwar Sadat of Egypt, ...

And lots of terrorists that messed with Israel.

Those silly arabs have spent so many years training but when it comes to dealing cans of whuppass, they still have NOTHING on westerners. And they know it deep down in their bones.

26 posted on 12/30/2007 5:38:21 PM PST by glorgau
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To: goldstategop
they can only wither and die of their own self-inflicted fanaticism.

And while they are withering and dying they are spreading their culture throughout Europe rapidly and throughout the Americas a little less rapidly.When they have finally withered and died completely they may well be the entire human race outside of China. Or maybe in China, too.

27 posted on 12/30/2007 5:38:22 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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To: goldstategop
Image hosted by Photobucket.com You only have one son, and you want him to BlowUp right... right???
So use JIHADD brand Semtex Explosive to show you really care!!!

Money back guarantee if not completely satisfied... or if he lives.

28 posted on 12/30/2007 5:39:50 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: goldstategop

And the muezzin’s call echoes through Hamtramck and is coming to other communities in America.


29 posted on 12/30/2007 5:40:10 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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To: tired1
i don’t recall the specifics. can someone out there refresh my memory?

As I recall the terrorist lost the family jewels before being killed.

30 posted on 12/30/2007 5:49:24 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (I'm not celebrating Kwanza!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

please review my post: #14


31 posted on 12/30/2007 5:55:13 PM PST by tired1 (responsibility without authority is slavery!)
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To: goldstategop

Good post.


32 posted on 12/30/2007 6:23:12 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: goldstategop

Great post goldtategop, very enlightening. Thank you.


33 posted on 12/30/2007 7:10:45 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: kalee

Iraq is improving rapidly...but that’s because of the US military.

And there’s Dubai...

And Turkey, but there is no state religion there so I guess they don’t count.


34 posted on 12/30/2007 7:14:59 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: goldstategop

The weeds of Islam bear bitter fruit..


35 posted on 12/30/2007 8:02:17 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: tired1

Yes, the KGB mailed them family members body parts until they got what they wanted.


36 posted on 12/30/2007 9:47:21 PM PST by When do we get liberated? ((Ok, Im the official Pit Bull Defender/If you can't stand behind our troops, stand in front of them.)
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To: Fred Nerks

remember, it is a religion of peace.


37 posted on 12/30/2007 9:49:24 PM PST by When do we get liberated? ((Ok, Im the official Pit Bull Defender/If you can't stand behind our troops, stand in front of them.)
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To: kalee

arguably, Dearborn Michigan....


38 posted on 12/30/2007 9:49:57 PM PST by When do we get liberated? ((Ok, Im the official Pit Bull Defender/If you can't stand behind our troops, stand in front of them.)
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