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1 posted on 12/30/2007 8:35:44 PM PST by ventanax5
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Soldiers are individuals who dress up for war.

Terrorists are individuals who dress down for war.

If Allah, is on your side, put on a uniform signifying this profound fact and let’s see how you do?


2 posted on 12/30/2007 8:38:03 PM PST by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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It isn’t courage, it’s commitment. Two different things.
3 posted on 12/30/2007 8:38:12 PM PST by durasell (!)
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Not many people have that degree of courage

Piss off Theodore .. not many people have that degree of depravity, courage has nothing to do with it.

4 posted on 12/30/2007 8:42:57 PM PST by tx_eggman ("Believing without loving turns the best of creeds into a weapon of oppression" Eugene Peterson)
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It was demon possession.


5 posted on 12/30/2007 8:42:59 PM PST by liege
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Lawrence Auster

“This is from the Times of India

NEW DELHI: Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Thursday expressed deep shock over the assassination of Benazir Bhutto, saying that the incident is a “reminder” of the common dangers faced in the sub-continent.
“The manner of her going is a reminder of the common dangers that our region faces from cowardly acts of terrorism and of the need to eradicate this dangerous threat,” he said in a statement from Goa.

Is there not something deeply wrong with a culture in which, when mass murder occurs, political leaders and pundits immediately describe it as a “reminder”—as though the most important thing about a monstrous crime is not that it’s a monstrous crime, but that it leads us to a thought process about some other issue? This is the abstract and unreal mind-set of liberalism, which, as we can see, has taken root in India as well as in the West.
Another word that ought to be dropped in these circumstances is “cowardly.” Obviously, there is nothing cowardly about a Muslim being willing to die in the act of killing his enemies, which according to the Koran is the holiest act a Muslim can perform. The recourse to the word “cowardly” is another symptom of liberalism. Liberal politicians don’t want to call the perpetrators of these crimes “enemies” or “evil,” since liberalism prohibits the recognition of the existence of enemies and evil. So they call them “cowardly,” which makes the speaker sound tough and determined, when in fact he is only being absurd.

One of the most characteristic things about liberalism is the moral poverty it inflicts on those who follow it.

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Calling a terrorist act a “reminder” is similar to saying that people are “shocked” by its occurrence—liberals, as I’ve often noted, are constantly being “shocked” by a reality they refuse to recognize. Both phrases suggest that people don’t really believe that terrorism exists, so they require the “reminder” to “shock” them back into the realization that it does. The subtext is: this event forces us once again (for the nth time) to think about this problem that we don’t want to think about, or rather it forces us to declare how important it is for us to think about this problem that we don’t want to think about.

By contrast, a society that actually recognized and was facing the reality of jihadism and terrorism would not speak of a terrorist act as a reminder, because it would already be involved in opposing the jihadists and making war against them. Do you think that when the Japanese sank a U.S. destroyer in the Pacific in 1943, American leaders and journalists said that this was a “reminder” of the fact that we were in a war?”

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6 posted on 12/30/2007 8:46:19 PM PST by ventanax5
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It isn’t courage at all; it’s an act of pure evil. Evil is never courageous because its motivation is not human; courage is a human motivation.


7 posted on 12/30/2007 8:46:59 PM PST by hsalaw
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How does it take courage for a terrorist to dress in civilian clothing, walk up to someone and blow themselves up? That is cowardice. It does not qualify as courage or a commitment. It is cowardice.
8 posted on 12/30/2007 8:48:50 PM PST by jrooney (Ron Paul called Reagan a Dramatic Failure and thinks he is smarter than Abe Lincoln.)
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HA! Bush was right. Theodore Dalrymple is wrong.


9 posted on 12/30/2007 8:50:09 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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-bflr-


10 posted on 12/30/2007 8:50:26 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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You might as well call the Columbine and Virginia Tech killers brave, as long as “brave” means “acting without regard to ones own life or safety”, but it means more than that. Bravery is understood as a virtue stemming from moral strength, and not encompassing actions motivated by depravity or recklessness.

I have thought that “dastardly” is a better word for deeds such as these suicidal attacks, and is really what is meant. It is given as a synonym for “cowardly” in Webster’s Collegiate, with the explanation in the synonymy that it “implies behavior that is both cowardly and treacherous or skulking and outrageous”.


11 posted on 12/30/2007 8:50:32 PM PST by dr_lew
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I wonder how old the assassins were. It seems that the average age of suicide bombers is a shade over adolescence. Young, impressionable, easily manipulated, and expendable.
12 posted on 12/30/2007 8:51:34 PM PST by khnyny (Although prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it be postponed. Winston Churchill)
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To stalk and sneak up on innocent people just to slaughter them is anything but courageous. Who the hell is theodore dalrimple, and how did he get so screwd up?
13 posted on 12/30/2007 8:52:46 PM PST by davetex (My tagline has been placed on the disabled list.)
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Praising terror and its evil men is counterproductive to the cause of Western civilization.

What is Daylrymple’s agenda?

14 posted on 12/30/2007 8:52:52 PM PST by BenLurkin
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Suicide is not a brave act, except in the effort to save the lives of others (throwing yourself on a grenade).

This act equates to knifing some unexpecting person and then committing suicide.

If it were brave I would say so, but its not.


15 posted on 12/30/2007 8:53:30 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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As I recall, Bill Mahre lost his gig at ABC over this very point.


16 posted on 12/30/2007 8:54:16 PM PST by scrabblehack
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Its only courageous if you enjoy being alive. Those fanatics could care less about that.


17 posted on 12/30/2007 8:54:21 PM PST by Nonstatist
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Dalrymple simply demonstrates that he is unaware of the long philosophical tradition regarding courage in the West.

The assassination was an act of cowardice, not of courage.

The courageous person in that situation was Bhutto.

18 posted on 12/30/2007 8:56:07 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the JuConstitution?)
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Everything I’ve read about terrorist killings includes such things as (1) assassin promised 72 virgins AND assassin promised that if he/she fails, his/her family will be annihilated, or, (2) #1 plus the assassin’s wrists are handcuffed to the steering wheel of the auto/bomb, or, (3) assassin drugged and driven into a suicidal rage by goofball ragheaded perverters of religion.

None of this sounds heroic or brave to me; it all sounds more like the actions of an ignorant, juvenile coward.


19 posted on 12/30/2007 8:57:45 PM PST by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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I’m sorry .. this doesn’t take courage .. it takes LUNACY!


20 posted on 12/30/2007 8:58:00 PM PST by CyberAnt (AMERICA: THE GREATEST FORCE for GOOD in the world!)
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It's a matter of conviction. Theirs islamist. Ours Judeo-Christian.
A secular system will gradually collapse to theirs.
21 posted on 12/30/2007 8:58:12 PM PST by onedoug
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