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Ron Paul's War Chest Swelled in 4th Quarter
WALL STREET JOURNAL ^ | 31 DECEMBER 2007 | MARY JACOBY

Posted on 12/30/2007 10:07:59 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist

Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul may lag behind in public-opinion polls. But after raising about $19 million for the final three months of the year, he is now among his party's front-runners in the race for campaign cash.

When the books close on the year's fourth quarter today, the plain-spoken antiwar Texas congressman will have posted one of the best fund-raising periods of any Republican presidential candidate this year.

To be sure, other Republican candidates hadn't disclosed their fourth-quarter fund-raising figures as of yesterday. But to date, only former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has issued a better three-month report, and just once: $20.8 million in the first quarter, not counting loans the former venture capitalist made to his campaign.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cutandrun; davidduke; fundraising; libertarian; rino; ronpaul; soros

1 posted on 12/30/2007 10:08:01 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: traviskicks; KDD; billbears; Puddleglum; mysterio; jmeagan

Dr. Paul crossed the $19 million mark shortly after midnight. There’s a mini-money bomb today - the goal is to get past the $20 million mark.


2 posted on 12/30/2007 10:10:05 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (13-3 Green Bay Packers - The road to the Super Bowl begins NOW)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I don't really sign up for ping lists. Please remove me.

No offense meant, and I hope you have a happy New Year.
3 posted on 12/30/2007 10:12:01 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

As for the thread at hand, 19 million is quite a bit of money.


4 posted on 12/30/2007 10:13:28 PM PST by mysterio
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To: mysterio

Sorry about that. It’s really not a PING list but I’ll be sure not to include your FReep name in the future.


5 posted on 12/30/2007 10:14:55 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (13-3 Green Bay Packers - The road to the Super Bowl begins NOW)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I think this is one of the most hopeful stories of the election cycle. That there are a lot of Americans that will put up money to back someone with Paul’s principles. One can believe that all is not yet lost.


6 posted on 12/30/2007 10:22:09 PM PST by LordBridey
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To: LordBridey

I’m sure CodePink and George Soros kicked in.


7 posted on 12/30/2007 10:25:29 PM PST by 1035rep
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

With that kind of Howard Dean money, Paul should be in the lead by double digits.


8 posted on 12/30/2007 10:34:26 PM PST by NoLibZone (Hillary shall be the next thanks to those that waffled.)
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To: 1035rep
I’m sure CodePink and George Soros kicked in.

I wouldn't have thought that those sources would appreciate Paul's traditional conservative principles, but hey, it is still a free country, and I guess anyone is free to give to anywhom.

9 posted on 12/30/2007 10:36:35 PM PST by LordBridey
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Something smells fishy about Paul’s fund raising. I just don’t see his “political customers” with that kind of money.

Unless a lot of them are in the closet. But, then, why aren’t they reflected in the polls?


10 posted on 12/30/2007 10:40:59 PM PST by papasmurf (I'm voting for FRed, even if I have to write him in.)
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To: 1035rep

This is supposed to be federal hard money, which means Soros can only have kicked in $2300.

It’s impressive how much money he’s raised simply by being the flavor of the cycle for the youngsters entering politics.


11 posted on 12/30/2007 10:42:41 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

And .. in case nobody has noticed .. Ron is being funded by George Soros.

This is on purpose .. because Soros will do ANYTHING to keep the repubs out of the WH.


12 posted on 12/30/2007 10:53:13 PM PST by CyberAnt (AMERICA: THE GREATEST FORCE for GOOD in the world!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
What Ron Paul's fund raising shows is that a candidate can raise money who is supported by the grassroots.

Thus, we do not need campaign fiance laws which do nothing but subsidize candidates that have no real support.

13 posted on 12/30/2007 11:03:39 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: All

This would be good news if Dr. Paul was not an isolationist.

OTOH, I don’t have any problem with someone who champions the Constitution actually getting his voice heard during a campaign.

That’s about all it’s going to be.


14 posted on 12/30/2007 11:36:25 PM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (QMC(SW) USN........ CG21 DD988 FFG34 PC6 ARS53)
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To: CyberAnt

I believe you, but do you have any links on tap? For a friend of mine.

I hope Soros is pouring mucho dineros into this, with his track records in elections. All the money in the world can’t make the unelectable electable.


15 posted on 12/30/2007 11:38:15 PM PST by Baladas
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
OTOH, I don’t have any problem with someone who champions the Constitution actually getting his voice heard during a campaign.

Make that "someone who claims to champion the Constitution". We already know about his "I voted for the 'Use of Force Resolution' for Afghanistan, before I decided that only a Declaration of War was Constitutional in the case of Iraq" dodge. Ditto for his "I proposed earmarks for my constituents, before I voted against them" charade. To paraphrase a line from a current movie: "You're no Thomas Jefferson, Mr. Paul".

16 posted on 12/31/2007 12:46:15 AM PST by pawdoggie
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Must be more White Supremacist in this County, than I thought, for Ron Paul to get that kind of money.


17 posted on 12/31/2007 4:26:06 AM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: LordBridey

Soros’ isn’t directly contributing to Ron Paul. Soros does contribute to Moveon. Moveon sponsors websites that encourage people to contribute to Ron Paul. Generally speaking these websites don’t get into Ron’s views on economics but only emphasize that he is the only anti-war republican running who will bring the troops home, etc. Soros and moveon recognize that Ron Paul won’t win but they do see this as an opportunity to disrupt the republican party.


18 posted on 12/31/2007 4:32:56 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Ron Paul - building a bridge to the 19th century.)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Must be more White Supremacist in this County, than I thought, for Ron Paul to get that kind of money.

ROFL. How's Romney's fundraising? Did he give himself a loan yet?

19 posted on 12/31/2007 9:09:29 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (13-3 Green Bay Packers - The road to the Super Bowl begins NOW)
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To: DugwayDuke
Soros and moveon recognize that Ron Paul won’t win but they do see this as an opportunity to disrupt the republican party.

How does it disrupt the rep. party, since Paul's chances of winning the nomination are minimal if existent at all? I would think Paul's candidacy serves to attract liberals away from the democrats. His anti-interventionism stance and enlightened position on the war on drugs could serve to peel some voters away from the liberal party. The only way Paul's campaign can hurt anything is if he runs as a third party candidate, but again, he would be appealing to voters of all stripes, so it would be a wash.

20 posted on 12/31/2007 9:15:00 AM PST by LordBridey
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To: pawdoggie
Make that "someone who claims to champion the Constitution". We already know about his "I voted for the 'Use of Force Resolution' for Afghanistan, before I decided that only a Declaration of War was Constitutional in the case of Iraq" dodge.

There were discernable differences in those two instances so it is a case of nuance and circumstance, not inconsistency or hypocrisy.

21 posted on 12/31/2007 9:19:24 AM PST by LordBridey
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To: LordBridey
Paul's traditional conservative principles

Say what?

He's sure got a lot of you fooled.

22 posted on 12/31/2007 9:21:37 AM PST by been_lurking
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To: mysterio

Buys a lot of tin foil.


23 posted on 12/31/2007 9:22:26 AM PST by LIConFem (Thompson. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter Lifetime ACU Rating: 92 (any combo will do, fellas))
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Extremely Extreme Extremist wrote: (Must be more White Supremacist in this County, than I thought, for Ron Paul to get that kind of money.) ROFL. How's Romney's fundraising? Did he give himself a loan yet?

Are you comparing Romney's own personal money, that he earned fair and square and is using in his own campaign, to the coffers of Ron Paul filled by White Supremacist? Guess ol' Ron Paul, doesn't have any personal wealth of his own, and must depend on White Surpremacist's money.

24 posted on 12/31/2007 9:24:14 AM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: been_lurking
Say what?

And then BAM! My optimism and hope is dashed.

25 posted on 12/31/2007 9:24:46 AM PST by LordBridey
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
There’s a mini-money bomb today - the goal is to get past the $20 million mark.

I think he's going to do it. He only needs about $900,000.

26 posted on 12/31/2007 9:25:08 AM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The misplaced millions donated to Paul's campaign would feed so many starving Chinese children.

(Thanks, Mom)

Leni

27 posted on 12/31/2007 9:26:28 AM PST by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !!!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Did he give himself a loan yet?

He's paying his own way, a traditionally conservative thing to do.

Ron Paul is getting money from liberal democrats so he can disrupt a Republican primary election. Traditional conservatism? Or maybe just dishonest political pandering?

28 posted on 12/31/2007 9:27:09 AM PST by been_lurking
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To: AmericanMade1776
Are you comparing Romney's own personal money, that he earned fair and square and is using in his own campaign, to the coffers of Ron Paul filled by White Supremacist?

Ummm, no...I'm pointing out that Romney has to reach into his wallet because he has no real support.

Guess ol' Ron Paul, doesn't have any personal wealth of his own, and must depend on White Surpremacist's money.

Dr. Paul has a nice personal income despite not dipping into the taxpayer trough, rejecting pay raises, or taking advantage of a Congressional golden parachute retirement. I don't know about you, but $500 bucks from a single individual white supremacist is far less controversial than the corporate special-interest/lobbyist/globalist money that have been contributed to two-faced Oven Mitt.

29 posted on 12/31/2007 9:29:59 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (13-3 Green Bay Packers - The road to the Super Bowl begins NOW)
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To: been_lurking
He's paying his own way, a traditionally conservative thing to do.

More like buying the WH. Fortunately, voters realize this, which is why Romney is currently in debt and has spent over $80 million this year trying to prove he's a conservative.

Ron Paul is getting money from liberal democrats so he can disrupt a Republican primary election.

Maybe liberal Democrats enjoy the message of freedom and liberty and are tired of being liberal Democrats.

Traditional conservatism? Or maybe just dishonest political pandering?

Paul's not soliciting any of these funds. Everybody is contributing to him on their own without direction from the official campaign.

30 posted on 12/31/2007 9:32:47 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (13-3 Green Bay Packers - The road to the Super Bowl begins NOW)
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To: LordBridey

“How does it disrupt the rep. party, since Paul’s chances of winning the nomination are minimal if existent at all?”

Then you support excluding Ron Paul from the debates?

“His anti-interventionism stance and enlightened position on the war on drugs could serve to peel some voters away from the liberal party.”

His isolationist stance and support of legalization of all drugs would have the opposite effect since those who support those things will turn to the liberal party. Having Ron Paul in the Republican debates is allowing the democrats to have a spokesman on stage.

“The only way Paul’s campaign can hurt anything is if he runs as a third party candidate, but again, he would be appealing to voters of all stripes, so it would be a wash.”

No, when it comes to actually counting votes, Ron Paul won’t draw votes from the democrats but from libertarians that might vote republican.


31 posted on 12/31/2007 9:43:39 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Ron Paul - building a bridge to the 19th century.)
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To: papasmurf

“But, then, why aren’t they reflected in the polls?”

My guess is that the polls ask for Republicans and many people supporting Paul are (I) and even (D).


32 posted on 12/31/2007 9:56:08 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“single individual white supremacist “

How racist of you.


33 posted on 12/31/2007 9:57:06 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: DugwayDuke
Having Ron Paul in the Republican debates is allowing the democrats to have a spokesman on stage.

Defending the constitution is a platform generally associated with the republican party, not the democrats. Strict constitutionalists are who republicans like to see as judical appointees, not democrats. Reducing the scope and power of the federal government is a traditional republican value, not a democrat one. Paul absolutely belongs on the republican stage, or at least a conservative stage, for those reasons alone. That liberals might benefit from or be attracted to the consequences of these principles does not make Paul a spokesman for them. He is a spokesmand for conservatives who understand conservatism.

34 posted on 12/31/2007 10:11:37 AM PST by LordBridey
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To: LordBridey

The democrats like having Ron Paul on stage since he appeals to the republicans disgruntled by mainstream republicans. The democrats hope this appeal will pay dividends when a number of republicans decide to vote third party or stay home.


35 posted on 12/31/2007 10:33:04 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Ron Paul - building a bridge to the 19th century.)
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To: murphE

Only $858,000 to go to reach $20,000,000.


36 posted on 12/31/2007 11:11:46 AM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: LordBridey
Paul absolutely belongs on the republican stage, or at least a conservative stage, for those reasons alone.

So it's an entitlement? Can't he do all of those things from the Libertarian stage?

Why does he run as a Republican when he is a Libertarian? Why can't he show honesty in this most basic area?

37 posted on 12/31/2007 11:17:35 AM PST by been_lurking
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To: murphE
Only $858,000 to go to reach $20,000,000.

There isn't much time left before the key primaries are over, and he's done.

Best make your donations early and often.

38 posted on 12/31/2007 11:19:41 AM PST by been_lurking
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To: murphE
Damn, I don't think he's going to make her. He has $750,000 to go and it's already 5:30 EST. People are preparing for New Year's.

D'oh!

39 posted on 12/31/2007 2:32:45 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (13-3 Green Bay Packers - The road to the Super Bowl begins NOW)
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To: DugwayDuke; been_lurking
The democrats hope this appeal will pay dividends when a number of republicans decide to vote third party or stay home.

I suppose you are right. It is much easier to deride Paul as a kook, than to actually incorporate even an iota of his principles. Instead of wooing libertarians and disgruntled conservatives by saying anything positive about constitutional principles, it must be more practical to go after the pro-abortion vote, the gay constituency, and the Israel first crowd. Winning is much more important than actually standing for something. It's much better to silence Paul, kick him out of the party he has represented in congress for twenty years, shut him out from debates, and attribute any support he has to the nefarious machinations of the democrats.

40 posted on 12/31/2007 3:29:44 PM PST by LordBridey
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To: Baladas

I remember seeing the information here .. maybe try searching for the name “Soros” and you might come up with it.

I do know MoveOn is supporting him (which is supported by Soros); and I’ve heard the name of another 527 which is also Soros funded that has been mentioned as supporting Ron.


41 posted on 12/31/2007 7:01:12 PM PST by CyberAnt (AMERICA: THE GREATEST FORCE for GOOD in the world!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

About $500,000 more to go....


42 posted on 12/31/2007 7:06:24 PM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: CyberAnt

Yes, thanks for the reply, I’ll try that later. In the meantime, wanna see something funny?:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=70092

LOL, hope the left hasn’t figured out just how harmful a Paul ind. challenge would be to them.


43 posted on 01/01/2008 5:13:46 PM PST by Baladas
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Meanwhile Ron Paul has not even a snowball chance in hell to be the Republican presidential nominee much less win the general election.


44 posted on 01/01/2008 5:18:59 PM PST by nomorelurker (keep flogging them till morale improves)
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