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1 posted on 12/31/2007 3:07:01 AM PST by ShadowDancer
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Police say the family appears to be non-traditional.

What the hell does that mean?

Terrible writing.

2 posted on 12/31/2007 3:09:23 AM PST by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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Police believe the family is from Maryland because the white minivan had Maryland license plates.

Where's Captain Obvious when we need him?

7 posted on 12/31/2007 3:24:10 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Scrape the bottom, vote for Rodham!)
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Why does the drunk driver always seem to survive?


10 posted on 12/31/2007 3:27:36 AM PST by MDspinboyredux
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why does it have to be a “white” minivan?....it adds nothing to the story.


12 posted on 12/31/2007 3:30:44 AM PST by cherry
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Other people told police the appeared to be drunk. Police say the driver, who suffered minor injuries, is from Adrian, Mich.

Amazing!

I hope he gets some serious jail time.

13 posted on 12/31/2007 3:31:35 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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Just updated:

"Five members of a suburban Baltimore family, returning home from the holidays after visiting relatives in Michigan, were killed late Sunday evening when an alleged drunk driver from Adrian, Mich., slammed into their minivan.

Michael Gagnon, 24, was driving northbound in the southbound lanes of Interstate-280 near the I-75 interchange when his Ford F250 pick-up collided nearly head-on with the Chevy Astro minivan.

The five passengers killed were all females -- Bethany Griffin, 36, the mother, Jordan Griffin, 10, Haley Burkman, 10, Lacie Burkman, 7, and Vadi Griffin, 6 months.

The father, Danny Griffin, 36, and two other children, Sidney Griffin, 8, and Beu Burkman, 8, survived.

Vadi was secured in a child seat but several of the family members were ejected from the torn minivan.

All of the surviving victims, including the alleged drunk driver, were also taken to St. Vincent for treatment.

Check out the video, still unedited at this hour. Clear shots of the apparent suspect with blood on his face, but walking around talking to cops.

16 posted on 12/31/2007 3:34:17 AM PST by atomic conspiracy (Rousing the blog-rabble since 9-11-01)
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21 posted on 12/31/2007 3:39:33 AM PST by HighWheeler (The higher the concentration of libs, the bigger the tragedy that follows.)
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24 posted on 12/31/2007 3:41:27 AM PST by HighWheeler (The higher the concentration of libs, the bigger the tragedy that follows.)
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Some idiot is getting started early. If you are out tonight, FRiends, be careful. And don’t drink. You will need all your skills to avoid the idiots that do.


33 posted on 12/31/2007 4:03:55 AM PST by gridlock (There are 49 other states in the Union. We don't need another President from Arkansas just yet.)
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the pick-up truck sheared off the passenger side of the minivan

Coming soon to roadways near you, as soon as we get the new "environmentally correct" fuel standards recently mandated by our "representatives". I saw a car body on a restoration rotisserie this past weekend. It's nothing but a spindly box of air. It's a miracle that anyone survives a head on in an automobile, especially a small unibody car.

46 posted on 12/31/2007 4:28:00 AM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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I was involved in a 5 fatality drunk driving accident in 1978.
My wife was driving our 1972 Impala and broadsided a car that had run a flashing red light at a rural intersection. Her brother and his wife, their eight year old daughter, our 6 week old daughter, and I were also in the car.
The other driver was a 16 year old boy, with a 16 year old girl and two other boys, both 17, as passengers. They had been to a party and the driver was extremely drunk, BAL of .16, more than twice the legal limit.
My sister-in-law and all three passengers in the other car were killed outright. The other driver died the next day. Everyone else was injured except our baby daughter, who didn’t have a scratch.
The parents of the party’s teenage host had provided the booze. They were jailed briefly and eventually plea-bargained for a probated sentence. The dead driver’s insurance company eventually got a court judgment against them but it was overturned.


52 posted on 12/31/2007 5:01:44 AM PST by atomic conspiracy (Rousing the blog-rabble since 9-11-01)
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Why is it always that the drunk driver is never killed?


54 posted on 12/31/2007 5:09:23 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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RIP.


55 posted on 12/31/2007 5:11:14 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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i actually knew her through a pregnancy/parenting forum i am on. she had children from a previous marriage. so i suppose that is why they are saying that.

she had a total of 7 children. 4 died, 2 are in te hospital, and i guess her oldest son wasn’t with them. i can’t even begin to imagine what her family must be feeling right now.


91 posted on 12/31/2007 10:49:23 AM PST by nikkimorr
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http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071231/NEWS01/712310412


94 posted on 12/31/2007 10:43:35 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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Thank You So Much. hi my name is christine and i knew these people very well, they were such great kids, omg they were amazing. My mother was having a serious relation ship with the father of the burkmans, see the father that was in the car, was the new husband to the lady beth, they were heading home to maryland from christmas vacation, i miss the kids so much. they loved my family and as did we, the girls looked to thyere father with so much lo0ve and pride. it kills me that this had to happen to them, and the rest of them what did they do, why7 did they deserve this.... that murderer needs to burn in hell for all eternaty. many people gave in reports to the police about they belive the guy is drunk and that he was driving before he even went on the wrong side of the highway. there were multiple calls. and they can be heard at a site. one guy even called that worked at mcdonalds and told the poilice he was a drunk driver but yet the police didnt come, they took too damn long. all this could of possibly be avoided, many people have made websites devoted to them alone on myspace, with picyures and everything else. Image and video hosting by TinyPic REST IN PEACE WE ALL LOVE YOU GUYS AND WANT YOU TO KNOW WE STILL REMEMBER, And YOU WILL NEVER BE FORGOtEN Thank You So Much. http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewAlbums&friendID=307161215 Thank You So Much.
101 posted on 12/06/2008 5:51:56 PM PST by christinelynn89 (i loved this family lyso dear)
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Clara and Michael Sr. speak live to Troy Neff

To listen to them click the links below:

Clara:

http://www.troyneff.com/podcast/podaudio08/063008/claragagnon.mp3

Michael, Sr.

http://www.troyneff.com/podcast/podaudio08/063008/gagnonSr.mp3

It is nice to hear that she regrets writing what she wrote on her blog.

However, it appears they do plan on appealing the judgement handed down.

I can only pray that if they do it is either denied or that the new judge gives the same judgement or possibly even a harder judgement for them dragging this out even more.

43 years seems like a lot if it was one death. It’s 5 deaths. I think that’s what they don’t understand. It seems they are looking at this and lumping it all together and therefore thinking 43 years is a lot.

It’s only 8 years per each death and the 3 other years are for the damage that was done to the survivors. Sydney, Danny and Beau. Sydney got the worst damage and life for her is not the same, period. Without going into details, because I don’t want to share more than Jodie wants shared - but suffice it to say that Sydney has a long road to recovery and may never be “whole” again.

Danny and Beau are fairing much better, thank the Lord.


102 posted on 12/06/2008 5:51:57 PM PST by christinelynn89 (i loved this family lyso dear)
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