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Romney surging in polls before Iowa caucus
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 12/30/07 | Thomas Burr

Posted on 12/31/2007 6:48:34 AM PST by Reaganesque

COLUMBUS JUNCTION, Iowa -- Down more than 10 points in the polls here only weeks ago, Mitt Romney appears to be surging back days before Iowans head to their caucuses.

Two polls released over the weekend showed Romney ahead of rival Mike Huckabee by several points, while another survey out Sunday has Romney in a statistical tie with the former Arkansas governor.

That's a far cry from early November, when a surging Huckabee took the front-runner mantle from Romney and never looked back. While Iowa's caucuses -- the first test of the presidential contest - are difficult to poll given only a small percentage of the state actually turns out for the caucus meetings, the polls may indicate a change in attitudes in Iowa.

A spokesman for Romney said polling really is all over the map.

"We're still running like the underdog," traveling press secretary Eric Fehrnstrom said, "although the sense is the people of Iowa are responding to Mitt Romney's message that he is the candidate who can bring real change to Washington and fix what's broken."

A new McClatchy, MSNBC and Mason-Dixon poll out Sunday has Romney leading Huckabee 27 percent to 23 percent, while an American Research poll from Saturday shows Romney leading Huckabee by 9 points, 32 percent to 23 percent. Meanwhile, a Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby International survey of likely caucus-goers finds Romney and Huckabee in a statistical tie.

Huckabee's emergence as a front-runner was followed by intense media scrutiny while Romney had already faced that earlier this year, a point that could have lead to Huckabee's quick rise and plateau in the polls.

Huckabee on Sunday went on NBC's "Meet the Press" to counter criticism that he doesn't have enough foreign policy experience after a series of gaffes on the campaign trail. He ticked off a demographic-filled list about Pakistan when quizzed about a misstep, but spent several moments slamming back at Romney for his critical advertisements.

Huckabee said Romney was running a "desperate and dishonest campaign."

"If you aren't being honest in obtaining the job, can we trust you to be honest when you get the job," Huckabee said.

Romney's national spokesman, Kevin Madden, responded to Huckabee's attack noting that the rival candidate "never refutes the facts of his troubling record."

"It's a record that is tough to defend, so his testiness and irritability when being questioned about it is obvious," Madden said.

"But Mike Huckabee's lashing out with personal attacks against Governor Romney that have no merit or substance is quite unfortunate. Campaigns should be about the issues."


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KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008polls; elections; ia; ia2008; lead; polls; romney; willgeer
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Again, if the polls are still tight by Friday, as they say in baseball, tie goes to the runner. The campaign that is most effective at "running" to get there supporters to the polls will win. That takes resources and organization, and the Romney campaign is way ahead of any campaign in both of those areas in Iowa and New Hampshire.
1 posted on 12/31/2007 6:48:35 AM PST by Reaganesque
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2 posted on 12/31/2007 6:49:18 AM PST by Reaganesque (Charter Member of the Romney FR Resistance)
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To: Reaganesque

All this surging and unsurging (desurging?) makes the process look pretty dumb.

A nation that has the Federalist Papers and the Lincoln-Douglas debates in its patrimony now gawks at horse races and beauty contests to select the leader of the free world.


4 posted on 12/31/2007 6:53:32 AM PST by don-o (Do the RIGHT thing. Become a monthly donor. End Freepathons forever)
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To: Reaganesque


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5 posted on 12/31/2007 6:53:34 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Manic_Episode

Save your screeds for the religion forum. This is a political forum. You have been reported.


6 posted on 12/31/2007 6:58:11 AM PST by Reaganesque (Charter Member of the Romney FR Resistance)
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7 posted on 12/31/2007 6:58:16 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Reaganesque

I like Romney...I also like McCain....I could like Fred, but he needs to do something to inspire me


8 posted on 12/31/2007 7:00:41 AM PST by rface (kooky inside and out)
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To: Calpernia

Who is YOUR candidate? Oh, and this kind of scurrilous crap you just posted is the worst kind of yellow journalism, as has probably been pointed out to you many times.


9 posted on 12/31/2007 7:01:21 AM PST by magritte
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To: Reaganesque

This doesn’t exactly give me the warm & fuzzies, especially since Romney threatened to impose his health care scheme on all of us if elected (ref: DesMoines Register-sponsored debate).


10 posted on 12/31/2007 7:01:45 AM PST by LIConFem (Thompson. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter Lifetime ACU Rating: 92 (any combo will do, fellas))
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To: magritte

Everything I posted is hard sourced.


11 posted on 12/31/2007 7:02:45 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Reaganesque
Huckabee's emergence as a front-runner was followed by intense media scrutiny

That is a stretch.

Most of the scrutiny came from other candidates and the Internet blogs and message boards, not from much of the MSM who were pushing for Huckabee.
12 posted on 12/31/2007 7:03:05 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Reaganesque

I imagine he was ahead all this time..but the MSM wanted to push their choice candidates....Huckabee and McCain because they are afraid of Romney. Since the Iowa caucuses are closely approaching they don’t want to lose their credibility so they post legitimate poll numbers


13 posted on 12/31/2007 7:04:24 AM PST by Fast Ed97
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To: Reaganesque
Organization? Ground game? Don’t cha know this campaign is about Internet cartouches, and cyber insults?
14 posted on 12/31/2007 7:06:01 AM PST by mission9 (It ain't bragging if you can do it.)
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To: Reaganesque
Mike Huckabee's lashing out

Many of Huckabee's responses made him sound like 'poor widdle me' and whiney. That made him less appealing as a potential presidential figure.
15 posted on 12/31/2007 7:07:11 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Reaganesque

“Again, if the polls are still tight by Friday, as they say in baseball, tie goes to the runner.”

I’m not convinced Romney winning by a point or two would give him much of a ‘bounce’ coming out of Iowa. On the other hand, if McCain should somehow pull out a strong 3rd place showing, that would give him the momentum going into New Hampshire.

A very exciting race. It could be the ultimate nominee is not in the race yet.


16 posted on 12/31/2007 7:07:41 AM PST by DodoDreamer
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To: Calpernia

Baloney. You are trying to associate Romney with Child Molesters. You are a disgrace to conservativism.


17 posted on 12/31/2007 7:07:51 AM PST by magritte
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To: magritte

I’m not trying, the Log Cabins ARE associated with StonewallVets.


18 posted on 12/31/2007 7:09:21 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Fast Ed97

There is no evidence the MSM ever wanted Huckabee. Huckabee’s rise is due to evangalical Christians who assumed (incorrectly) that because he is a minister, he is conservative. They are only now starting to realize he is to the Left of McCain.


19 posted on 12/31/2007 7:09:25 AM PST by DodoDreamer
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To: TomGuy

I’m sick of all the hot air already and it isn’t even 2008 yet! We’ve got 10 more months of this to go. Is it me or does it feel like this campaign has been lasting forever already? There’s the barrage of conflicting polls too, that never seems to end. After hearing endlessly from these candidates I think some people are going to wish President Bush could run again.

OK enough ranting for now.


20 posted on 12/31/2007 7:15:06 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: LIConFem

I have never seen so many bozo’s running for office at one time both dem’s and gop.


21 posted on 12/31/2007 7:18:16 AM PST by Vaduz (and just think how clean the cities would become again.)
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To: Vaduz

Kinda scary, ain’t it?


22 posted on 12/31/2007 7:25:22 AM PST by LIConFem (Thompson. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter Lifetime ACU Rating: 92 (any combo will do, fellas))
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To: Calpernia
Here he tells the Log Cabin republicans what he has in store for the military. A GOAL that he stubbornly clung to in the CNN debate, he wants it. ============================================================ Image and video hosting by TinyPic
23 posted on 12/31/2007 7:26:36 AM PST by ansel12 (Washington:I cannot tell a lie,Clinton:I cannot tell the truth,Romney:I cannot tell the difference.)
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To: Reaganesque

Is he making Julieannie a new dress?......

24 posted on 12/31/2007 7:27:31 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Reaganesque
It's starting to work out as I thought: despite the Huckaboom, Mitt (especially his ground troops) will carry this pretty easily. McCain could come in #3.

It's Mitt and McCain in NH, where indies can vote in either primary, and depending on who the GOP frontrunner is, some indies might vote as Dems to see that Hillary loses. Gonna be interesting.

I still think Mitt will win the first four primaries, Fred will drop out, Huck will plummet, and Rudy will recover on Super Tues. for a four-way race.

25 posted on 12/31/2007 7:27:56 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Reaganesque

(in case you didn’t know, that machine is a “serger”).......


26 posted on 12/31/2007 7:29:06 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Reaganesque
Not according to Spain's reporting this morning. LOL

The huckster has pulled ahead.

27 posted on 12/31/2007 7:29:50 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: don-o
Come on, Don-o. If you are as astute in history as you presume to be in your post, then you know that Lincoln wasn't even ON THE GOP BALLOT OF CANDIDATES going into the convention; that it has taken up to 103 ballots to nominate a candidate before; that Kennedy's nomination wasn't locked up even going into the convention.

This is absolutely no different than the "log cabin" campaign of 1840, or the notion that we should vote for "Old Tippecanoe" because he whipped some Indians. This is American politics, and it's the best system in the world.

28 posted on 12/31/2007 7:30:45 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Reaganesque

I prefer Fred, and for that matter, Duncan. But if Mitt gets the nomination, I’ll vote for him. Probably also donate to him. He is, in my estimation, acceptable.

I haven’t given up on Fred, however. I can only hope he’s still in the running when the primaries come to my state.


29 posted on 12/31/2007 7:31:12 AM PST by samtheman (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: don-o
All this surging and unsurging (desurging?) makes the process look pretty dumb.

It does sound a whole lot like a little kid on a float yelling look I am swimming.

30 posted on 12/31/2007 7:31:16 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: ansel12
In order to receive an endorsement from the Log Cabin Republicans, or any of its affiliates, the candidate has to apply for it and meet several milestones. If a candidate is granted an endorsement, they sign a contract and receive a political consultant that represents the interests of the Log Cabin Republicans. So, if you vote for someone that is endorsed by the LCR or said affiliates, you are voting for their agenda. Not the candidates horse and pony show.

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31 posted on 12/31/2007 7:32:43 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: LS
Interesting, LS (good to see your initials - Happy New Year, FRiend!).

I sure wish it were possible for Duncan Hunter to win...geez, every time you listen to the guy, it's exactly what a Conservative believes to be truth. Here's my DREAM TEAM.... Hunter/Bolton ;-) Freepmail me YOUR choice, would you? I really value your opinions.

Hope all is well with you!

32 posted on 12/31/2007 7:37:14 AM PST by NordP (Such tough choices ahead, I'm now a "middle of the road" voter--somewhere between RUSH & Savage ;-))
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To: magritte
" yellow journalism",

You mean the flier praising gay pride weekend paid for by Mitt upsets you?

Take it up with willard, he did it.

33 posted on 12/31/2007 7:37:18 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: TomGuy
not from much of the MSM who were pushing for Huckabee

I doubt Huckabee ever really surged....just the MSM initial attempt at getting Huckabee the Nomination by building some pretend ground swell....they know very well that Huck is the only candidate they (the DNC and the Media) can easily defeat....

From the get go I never believed in the "Huck" surge.....could be wrong, we'll just have to see....

IMHO....
34 posted on 12/31/2007 7:39:29 AM PST by PigRigger (Donate to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org - The Troops have our front covered, let's guard their backs!)
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To: Calpernia
magritte - trolling FR for Romney since 12-10-2007...

Thanks for all your work, Calpernia - HAPPY NEW YEARS!

35 posted on 12/31/2007 7:45:08 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob

Happy New Year to you too.


36 posted on 12/31/2007 7:55:53 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: rface
I could like Fred, but he needs to do something to inspire me.

If this 17-minute video doesn't inspire you and convince you that Fred Thompson should be our next President, I don't know what will:

http://fredfile.fred08.com/blog/2007/video-freds-message-to-iowa-voters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VblJq4j0_SE

37 posted on 12/31/2007 8:08:23 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Fred Thompson, the right man for the job.)
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To: Charles Henrickson

That's the problem with Fred. He wants to phone it in instead of actually showing up.

38 posted on 12/31/2007 8:16:12 AM PST by yellowhammer ( Mitt Romney '08)
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To: Reaganesque

I think Fred Thompson and John Edwards are gaining some last minute traction in Iowa. I expect them to do better than the polls say.

Thompson is getting most of the Tancredo supporters and taking some support away from Huckabee.

Edwards has a formidable caucus organization (me thinks many of the Obama supporters won’t show ... Obama will do worse than expected).


39 posted on 12/31/2007 8:19:04 AM PST by bluebeak
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To: bluebeak
Edwards has a formidable caucus organization (me thinks many of the Obama supporters won’t show ... Obama will do worse than expected).

I think you may be right.

40 posted on 12/31/2007 8:21:26 AM PST by Reaganesque (Charter Member of the Romney FR Resistance)
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To: Calpernia
Everything I posted is hard sourced.

What's the "hard source" of the photo of Romney with the gay flag?

41 posted on 12/31/2007 8:48:09 AM PST by xjcsa (Defenseless enemies are fun.)
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To: xjcsa
Ok, the picture with the flag is not 'hard sourced'. Is there any information I posted you would like more information on?
42 posted on 12/31/2007 8:56:53 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Reaganesque

One thing is apparent to me, if Mitt Romney can significantly top Huckabee after losing the lead in Iowa, he’ll be able to deal with whatever Hillary, Obama, or Edwards dishes out, should he get the nomination.


43 posted on 12/31/2007 9:02:06 AM PST by hunter112 (Hillary Clinton - America’s Ex-Wife®)
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To: TomGuy
Many of Huckabee's responses made him sound like 'poor widdle me' and whiney. That made him less appealing as a potential presidential figure.

From accounts I've read, Huck was Mr. Nice Guy as long as you were 100% on his side, but woe unto you if you disagreed with him. Clearly, Huck's competitors have picked up on that, and used it.

44 posted on 12/31/2007 9:14:49 AM PST by hunter112 (Hillary Clinton - America’s Ex-Wife®)
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To: Calpernia
Ok, the picture with the flag is not 'hard sourced'. Is there any information I posted you would like more information on?

Falsus en uno, falsus en omnibus. :)

45 posted on 12/31/2007 9:25:28 AM PST by xjcsa (Defenseless enemies are fun.)
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To: LIConFem

Romney has never advocated a national health plan.


46 posted on 12/31/2007 9:25:31 AM PST by Bluestateredman (Self-sufficiency is the American Way)
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To: Bluestateredman
"Romney has never advocated a national health plan."

I never said he did.

However, in the DesMoines Register debate, each candidate was asked what he would do in the first year of his presidency. Romney replied that he would (among other things) see to it that "every American had health insurance", which is what he did to MA with his health insurance scheme. So you're right, he never advocated national health care, but then I never said he did (go back and reread my post). But he did threaten to impose his MA scheme on the nation.
47 posted on 12/31/2007 9:35:16 AM PST by LIConFem (Thompson. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter Lifetime ACU Rating: 92 (any combo will do, fellas))
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To: Calpernia

You claim to know a lot about the Log Cabins. Are you a member.


48 posted on 12/31/2007 9:39:23 AM PST by 212351st
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To: 212351st

I’ve backed up my info. Therefore, it is not a claim. IT is called FACT.

Ask David Mixner. He has a website blog. He started the funds :)


49 posted on 12/31/2007 9:40:36 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

Are you part of Log Cabineers for Hunter??


50 posted on 12/31/2007 9:42:17 AM PST by 212351st
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