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AOL Pulls Plug on Netscape Web Browser
AP ^ | 28 Dec 07 | ANICK JESDANUN

Posted on 12/31/2007 12:17:16 PM PST by GATOR NAVY

NEW YORK (AP) - Netscape Navigator, the world's first commercial Web browser and the launch pad of the Internet boom, will be pulled off life support Feb. 1 after a 13-year run.

Its current caretakers, Time Warner Inc. (TWX)'s AOL, decided to kill further development and technical support to focus on growing the company as an advertising business. Netscape's usage dwindled with Microsoft Corp. (MSFT)'s entry into the browser business, and Netscape all but faded away following the birth of its open-source cousin, Firefox.

"While internal groups within AOL have invested a great deal of time and energy in attempting to revive Netscape Navigator, these efforts have not been successful in gaining market share from Microsoft's Internet Explorer," Netscape Director Tom Drapeau wrote in a blog entry Friday.

In recent years, Netscape has been little more than a repackaged version of the more popular Firefox, which commands about 10 percent of the Web browser market, with almost all of the rest going to Internet Explorer.

People will still be able to download and use the Netscape browser indefinitely, but AOL will stop releasing security and other updates on Feb. 1. Drapeau recommended that the small pool of Netscape users download Firefox instead.

A separate Netscape Web portal, which has had several incarnations in recent years, will continue to operate.

The World Wide Web was but a few years old when in April 1993 a team at the University of Illinois' National Center for Supercomputing Applications released Mosaic, the first Web browser to integrate images and sound with words. Before Mosaic, access to the Internet and the Web was largely limited to text, with any graphics displayed in separate windows.

Marc Andreessen and many of his university colleagues soon left to form a company tasked with commercializing the browser. The first version of Netscape came out in late 1994.

Netscape fed the gold-rush atmosphere with a landmark initial public offering of stock in August 1995. Netscape's stock carried a then-steep IPO price of $28 per share, a price that doubled on opening day to give the startup a $2 billion market value even though it had only $20 million in sales.

But Netscape's success also drew the attention of Microsoft, which quickly won market share by giving away its Internet Explorer browser for free with its flagship Windows operating system. The bundling prompted a Justice Department antitrust lawsuit and later a settlement with Microsoft.

Netscape eventually dropped fees for the software, but it was too late. Undone by IE, Netscape sold itself to AOL in a $10 billion deal completed in early 1999.

Netscape spawned an open-source project called Mozilla, in which developers from around the world freely contribute to writing and testing the software. Mozilla released its standalone browser, Firefox, and Netscape was never able to regain its former footing.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aol; firefox; ie; internet; mozilla; netscape
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I used Netscape from the time I got my first computer in 1996 to about 2004 I guess, then IE for a short time until picking up Firefox in 2005. Hard to believe now how dominant over IE they were for a while.
1 posted on 12/31/2007 12:17:17 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: GATOR NAVY

I thought Netscape died years ago, after not seeing any more commercials for it.

I guess the MSM still has at least some sway over me. =(


2 posted on 12/31/2007 12:19:42 PM PST by wastedyears (Tell me why I had to be a powerslave... Iron Maiden March 14th, 2008)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Beat you by a year, starting with NS in 1995.

And I remember Netscape and the war with IE.

I used NS up until 2003 when I retired, moved and began to use Firefox.

I still keep copy of NS v4.74 for testing web pages on site I maintain.


3 posted on 12/31/2007 12:23:58 PM PST by upchuck (And Senator Clinton's experience is................................. where? What? When?)
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To: GATOR NAVY

I use Opera and love it.


4 posted on 12/31/2007 12:24:59 PM PST by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy.)
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To: wastedyears

.....I thought Netscape died years ago, after not seeing any more commercials for it......

Recall if you will that fools were parted from big $$$ spent on AOL stock. Having nothing better to do with the cash, they bought both Netscape and Time Warner.

All that $$$ was pissed down a rat hole. Thousands of children are starving in Africa because the money was ill spent by a greedy board of directors.


5 posted on 12/31/2007 12:25:05 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: GATOR NAVY

I have used it since the late 1990s. Like it. Still do. Dislike Internet Explorer. So what do I do? How do you get Firefox? Is it free like Netscape? I hate it when they do stuff like this.


6 posted on 12/31/2007 12:27:02 PM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Forgot to ask what is going to happen to my Netscape bookmarks?


7 posted on 12/31/2007 12:27:26 PM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: bert
AOL and Time/Warner are starving children in Africa, eh?

Is that your final answer? :)

8 posted on 12/31/2007 12:28:02 PM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: 3AngelaD
Firefox is free. You can get it from Firefox.com. Its a cross platform browser that will run on Windows, Macintosh and Linux. The most current version is 2.0.0.11.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

9 posted on 12/31/2007 12:28:54 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: bert
Thousands of children are starving in Africa because the money was ill spent by a greedy board of directors.

I thought that thousands of children are starving in Africa because of President Bush.

[Where can I buy a program to keep up with these things?]

10 posted on 12/31/2007 12:29:36 PM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: GATOR NAVY

I’m still using Lynx on a VT100 connected to a VAX.


11 posted on 12/31/2007 12:29:53 PM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: 3AngelaD

Netscape 9 is Firefox with a Netscape theme. Just download Firefox from mozilla.com.

I will miss the Netscape name. Reminds me of the wild days of the internet back in 1995. Just after Algore invented it. I used Netscape for years until I switched to OmniWeb then Safari on OS X. Now that I am back on Vista, I was using Netscape 9. Not sure what I’ll use now.


12 posted on 12/31/2007 12:30:51 PM PST by Astronaut
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To: GATOR NAVY

I used it too. I liked the older versions that are not so tricked up. For the last few years Firefox or Opera have been better IE alternatives.


13 posted on 12/31/2007 12:31:19 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: GATOR NAVY

14 posted on 12/31/2007 12:33:55 PM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: GATOR NAVY

Never used IE, it’s always been a featureless piece of junk. Ever notice there wasn’t a spyware problem until IE won the browser war? IE almost single-handedly ruined Web browsing. I like how IE added tabs, something Opera had last century and the Mozilla browsers picked them up around ‘02. RSS? FF has had the live bookmarks well before ver. 1.0.

I used Netscape 95-02 (2.x until 7.2, skipped 6), Mozilla .9x-1.6ish, then Firefox starting with version .7. Ditched Windows years ago too.

RIP, Netscape, I miss the days when you were king. If anything deserves to die, it’s IE. Ridding the world of that pollutant would do us all a favor.


15 posted on 12/31/2007 12:34:14 PM PST by bws53
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
Wow. I remember links. I had to stop using it when every page came up as "[IMAGE][IMAGE][IMAGE]..."

Well, that and the fact that it just stopped working at the ISP I was using.

TS


(x, why?)

16 posted on 12/31/2007 12:35:21 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (wee fish ewe a mare egrets moose panda hippo gnu deer)
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To: Free Vulcan
I use Opera and love it.

I've been using it for years especially to browse Free Republic. The tab capability is especially useful, because its much easier to get control of the desktop when all the web pages are just tabs in one opera session. Sure IE 7 finally has tabs years after Opera and Firefox, but you have to use Windows XP or above. Opera works well on older computers running Windows 2000. Why should I upgrade to a computer running XP of Vista just to browse the web? The only things for which I use IE are Windows Update and E Commerce.

17 posted on 12/31/2007 12:35:49 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (I'm not celebrating Kwanza!)
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To: GATOR NAVY
Hard to believe now how dominant over IE they were for a while.

I think 4.7 was the turning point. Buggiest piece of carp I ever had the misfortune to design for.

18 posted on 12/31/2007 12:36:03 PM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: GATOR NAVY
There are generally a baker's dozen or so main targets for computer viruses, i.e. the Windows OS, msoft word, excel, IE, and a couple of other msoft items. These things are ALL programmable (VBA) and meant to be used as systems integration components which might be fine for a large corporation with five or ten guys permenently employed keeping the lid down on viruses, but for the typical home computer user or even a small business to have a computer with programmable applications facing the internet is basically insane; it's like walking around in the Bronx with a "kick-me" sign on the seat of your pants.

Ideally a home computer facing the net should run LINUX; but if you can't do that, at LEAST avoid the biggest and most obvious target, which is IE; using Firefox just isn't that difficult.

19 posted on 12/31/2007 12:36:18 PM PST by damondonion
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To: GATOR NAVY
One of these days, I have to get around to downloading Firefox. Sooner or later.

Any learning curve, or is it just self-explanatory . . .

TS


(x, why?)

20 posted on 12/31/2007 12:36:43 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (wee fish ewe a mare egrets moose panda hippo gnu deer)
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To: 3AngelaD

Open your bookmarks and you should see ‘export’ and save them to an easy to find folder or your desktop. Then open FF and do the reverse, ‘import.’

On a Windows install, FF will ask if you want to import your IE bookmarks but I don’t know if it looks for other Mozilla installs and asks or not.


21 posted on 12/31/2007 12:38:12 PM PST by bws53
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To: GATOR NAVY

Wow, I remember having Mosaic running circa 1993-4 under X windows. I’m pretty sure it was invented for the same reason everything else was - to make finding porn easier and faster.


22 posted on 12/31/2007 12:41:29 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: Jeff Chandler
I thought that thousands of children are starving in Africa because of President Bush.

Different group of thousands of starving children.......

23 posted on 12/31/2007 12:43:13 PM PST by LasVegasMac (Islam: Bringing the world death and destruction for 1400 years!)
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To: GATOR NAVY
And when the Beast had taken the quarter of the Earth under its rule, a quarter hundred Birds of Sulfur flew from the Depths. The birds crossed hundreds of mountain views and found twenty four wise men who came from the stars. And then it began, the believers dared to listen. Then, they took their pens and dared to create. Finally, they dared to share their deed with the whole of mankind. Spreading words of freedom and breaking the chains, the birds brought deliverance to everyone.

from The Book of Mozilla, 11:1

24 posted on 12/31/2007 12:46:05 PM PST by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: GATOR NAVY

I’ve been a Netscape guy since about 1995, and I still am. I love the programmable link buttons at the top: one click and I’m at whichever of my favorite sites I want. No drop-down menu necessary.


25 posted on 12/31/2007 12:46:24 PM PST by xjcsa (Defenseless enemies are fun.)
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To: GATOR NAVY
Netscape was the first browser I used. It was good, even when IE was struggling.

But, around version 4.7 or so, it was phoning home consistently and frequently. That created allot of slowdown because I was on dial-up. It also had some problems with websites specifically developed for IE. I finally dropped it for IE.
26 posted on 12/31/2007 12:46:52 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: 3AngelaD
Download Firefox here. Yes, it's free.
27 posted on 12/31/2007 12:47:53 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: 3AngelaD
How do you get Firefox? Is it free like Netscape?

Firefox is free.

Check http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/?from=getfirefox to start.
28 posted on 12/31/2007 12:50:32 PM PST by TomGuy
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Different group of thousands of starving children.......

If only Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell would share their triple bacon cheeseburgers with them...

29 posted on 12/31/2007 12:51:50 PM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: Tanniker Smith
One of these days, I have to get around to downloading Firefox.

There's a painless and potentially lip-smacking happy New Year's resolution for you.

30 posted on 12/31/2007 12:52:41 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough (Music washes away the dust of every day life. ---Art Blakey)
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To: goldstategop

My main browser is SAFARI. FIREFOX is my backup. Used NETSCAPE years ago though.


31 posted on 12/31/2007 12:55:37 PM PST by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: bws53
I never really cared for IE, but when I started FReeping and viewing similar websites, I ran across a modified version called Fastbrowser (no longer being developed or supported). I liked Fastbrowser because it was one of the first to have 'tabs' and it incorporated MS Agent, which allows the computer 'voice' to read to the user. That is nice on lengthy articles and user's will old eyes. Fastbrowser uses the IE engine and some of the IE plug-ins.

I still use Fastbrowser for FR and similar websites and use Firefox for most other browsing.
32 posted on 12/31/2007 12:56:01 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Tanniker Smith

Firefox is nice & easy — I’ve been using Firefox for years and only use IE on sites that require it when I’m forced to.


33 posted on 12/31/2007 12:58:02 PM PST by polymuser (Happy New Year)
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To: 3AngelaD
Yes Firefox is free. See: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
34 posted on 12/31/2007 12:58:14 PM PST by reg45
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To: Astronaut
Netscape 9 is Firefox with a Netscape theme. Just download Firefox from mozilla.com.

If you add the Netstripe theme to Firefox, you'll have Firefox looking like Netscape. It's the closet you get to having Netscape 9.0.0.x without actually having it.

35 posted on 12/31/2007 1:01:00 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Tanniker Smith
Any learning curve, or is it just self-explanatory . . .

Firefox has a learing curve, but it is not that difficult.

The advantage to Firefox is that, after the basic browser, you can build your own. Firefox has extensions/plug-ins that add to its capabilities. Just be cautious that the more extensions you add, the more of a slowdown you may experience. They range from fancy neato toys to very practical and useful tools.

I have about a dozen extensions installed with mine. Some of them sure make life online much easier.
36 posted on 12/31/2007 1:01:28 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

//detect Netscape 4.7
if (navigator.appName==”Netscape”&&parseFloat(navigator.appVersion)=4.7)
alert(”You are using Netscape 4.7. Get a decent browser.”)


37 posted on 12/31/2007 1:02:51 PM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: 3AngelaD

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/

Firefox is a stand alone browser.

It should automatically import your bookmarks from Netscape. If it doesn’t, ping me back, and I’ll dig out an old copy of Netscape and walk you through the process.

Or, if you are in the mood for adventure, try SeaMonkey. It’s the complete suite to replace Mozilla. http://www.seamonkey-project.org/

Once you download Firefox, I recommend that you download a couple of plug ins - Cookiesafe and Flashblock will make your browsing safer and more enjoyable.


38 posted on 12/31/2007 1:03:47 PM PST by PAR35
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Any learning curve, or is it just self-explanatory .

What IE calls 'favorites' Firefox calls 'Bookmarks'. That's pretty much all you need to know for a smooth transition.

39 posted on 12/31/2007 1:07:45 PM PST by PAR35
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To: goldstategop

It works on UNIX, too.


40 posted on 12/31/2007 1:14:55 PM PST by tlj18 (Mike Huckabee is nonsense on stilts.)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

Lynx is great. I don’ need no steenkin’ graphics!


41 posted on 12/31/2007 1:19:58 PM PST by harwood (Ann Coulter: Future SCOTUS nominee!)
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To: GATOR NAVY

There’s still an AOL? Good grief.


42 posted on 12/31/2007 1:32:45 PM PST by saganite (Lust type what you what in the “tagline” space)
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To: harwood
I don’ need no steenkin’ graphics!

Yeah, but with Lynx you miss out on all the cheesecake photos [wink wink].

lingere

43 posted on 12/31/2007 1:37:32 PM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I think 4.7 was the turning point. Buggiest piece of carp I ever had the misfortune to design for.

LOL - I used 4.74 for years with W98SE because it was "stable" compared to other stuff I tried at the time. Eventually the buggy 4.x series were retired here in favor of IE6, Firefox, Opera, etc. I lived with 4.74 crashes and hangs for a long time. :o)

44 posted on 12/31/2007 1:39:25 PM PST by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: 3AngelaD

Netscape is just Mozilla repackaged with more bloat. Sea Monkey is almost exactly like Netscape. Firefox is the trimmed down version with a browser only. And Firefox has way less fine tunning options. Yet it is more developed in terms of keeping up with things. One of the most annoying things about firefox is that its cookie control is far inferior, if not just about impossible to control in an easy way. Once you block a site then it is a real hassle to unblock it. SeaMonkey makes that easy.


45 posted on 12/31/2007 1:43:04 PM PST by Revel
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To: 3AngelaD

Netscape is just Mozilla repackaged with more bloat. Sea Monkey is almost exactly like Netscape. Firefox is the trimmed down version with a browser only. And Firefox has way less fine tunning options. Yet it is more developed in terms of keeping up with things. One of the most annoying things about firefox is that its cookie control is far inferior, if not just about impossible to control in an easy way. Once you block a site then it is a real hassle to unblock it. SeaMonkey makes that easy.

http://www.mozilla.org/products/


46 posted on 12/31/2007 1:43:18 PM PST by Revel
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To: bws53

YOU are a prince {or princess, I can’t tell}. Thank you.


47 posted on 12/31/2007 1:46:28 PM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: PAR35

Then after I do all that and import my Netscape bookmarks, do I uninstall all the Netscapes I have on my computer? I run on XP.


48 posted on 12/31/2007 1:48:06 PM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Like many here, netscape was my first exposure to the world wide web .. and what a marvel it was. Even on dialup in those days. RIP, netscape.


49 posted on 12/31/2007 1:49:35 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

I just finished writing a bash script that uses lynx to pull either the definition of a word or its synonym from the web, depending on how you call it. It’s still quite useful for things like that. :)


50 posted on 12/31/2007 1:51:23 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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