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D.B. COOPER REDUX - Help Us Solve the Enduring Mystery (FBI)
FBI ^ | 12/31/07 | FBI

Posted on 01/01/2008 2:59:53 PM PST by DogByte6RER

D.B. COOPER REDUX

Help Us Solve the Enduring Mystery

12/31/07

On a cold November night 36 years ago, in the driving wind and rain, somewhere between southern Washington state and just north of Portland, Oregon, a man calling himself Dan Cooper parachuted out of a plane he’d just hijacked clutching a bag filled with $200,000 in stolen cash.

Who was Cooper? Did he survive the jump? And what happened to the loot, only a small part of which has ever surfaced?

It’s a mystery, frankly. We’ve run down thousands of leads and considered all sorts of scenarios. And amateur sleuths have put forward plenty of their own theories. Yet the case remains unsolved.

Would we still like to get our man? Absolutely. And we have reignited the case—thanks to a Seattle case agent named Larry Carr and new technologies like DNA testing.

You can help. We’re providing here, for the first time, a series of pictures and information on the case. Please look it all over carefully to see if it triggers a memory or if you can provide any useful information.

A few things to keep in mind, according to Special Agent Carr:

* Cooper was no expert skydiver. “We originally thought Cooper was an experienced jumper, perhaps even a paratrooper,” says Special Agent Carr. “We concluded after a few years this was simply not true. No experienced parachutist would have jumped in the pitch-black night, in the rain, with a 200-mile-an-hour wind in his face, wearing loafers and a trench coat. It was simply too risky. He also missed that his reserve chute was only for training and had been sewn shut—something a skilled skydiver would have checked.”

* The hijacker had no help on the ground, either. To have utilized an accomplice, Cooper would’ve needed to coordinate closely with the flight crew so he could jump at just the right moment and hit the right drop zone. But Cooper simply said, "Fly to Mexico," and he had no idea where he was when he jumped. There was also no visibility of the ground due to cloud cover at 5,000 feet.

* We have a solid physical description of Cooper. “The two flight attendants who spent the most time with him on the plane were interviewed separately the same night in separate cities and gave nearly identical descriptions,” says Carr. “They both said he was about 5'10" to 6', 170 to 180 pounds, in his mid-40s, with brown eyes. People on the ground who came into contact with him also gave very similar descriptions.”

And what of some of the names pegged as Cooper? None have panned out. Duane Weber, who claimed to be Cooper on his deathbed, was ruled out by DNA testing (we lifted a DNA sample from Cooper’s tie in 2001). Kenneth Christiansen, named in a recent magazine article, didn’t match the physical description and was a skilled paratrooper. Richard McCoy, who died in 1974, also didn’t match the description and was at home the day after the hijacking having Thanksgiving dinner with his family in Utah, an unlikely scenario unless he had help.

As many agents before him, Carr thinks it highly unlikely that Cooper survived the jump. “Diving into the wilderness without a plan, without the right equipment, in such terrible conditions, he probably never even got his chute open.”

Still, we’d all like to know for sure, and Carr thinks you can help.

“Maybe a hydrologist can use the latest technology to trace the $5,800 in ransom money found in 1980 to where Cooper landed upstream. Or maybe someone just remembers that odd uncle.”

If you have any information: please e-mail our Seattle field office at fbise@leo.gov. And for more details on the case, see our story of November 24, 2006.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; US: Oregon; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: caper; coldcase; crime; dancooper; dbcooper; fbi; feds; fugitive; gmen; godsgravesglyphs; hijack; mystery; notorious; ransom; skyjack
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This is a great caper.

I remember watching a TV docu-drama about D.B. Cooper when I was a kid. I think Treat Williams played D.B. Cooper in the movie. After landing in the wilderness D.B. Cooper (Treat Williams) used several hundred dollar bills to light a cigar in celebration of his escape.

Anyways...this case has always intrigued me. It would be interesting if the feds could solve it once and for all.

1 posted on 01/01/2008 2:59:55 PM PST by DogByte6RER
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Photobucket Left: During the hijacking, Cooper was wearing this black J.C. Penney tie, which he removed before jumping; it later provided us with a DNA sample. Right: Some of the stolen $20 bills found by a young boy in 1980.
2 posted on 01/01/2008 3:00:41 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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Photobucket One of the parachutes left behind by Cooper and the canvas bag it came in. Cooper asked for four chutes in all; he jumped with two (including one that was used for instruction and had been sewn shut). He used the cord from one of the remaining parachutes to tie the stolen money bag shut. See a larger version.
3 posted on 01/01/2008 3:01:31 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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Photobucket This map was made to help investigators figure out where Cooper landed.
4 posted on 01/01/2008 3:02:12 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

Come on! Everyone that was solved years ago. DB Cooper was Newsradio’s Jimmy James. Ha, Ha.


5 posted on 01/01/2008 3:03:24 PM PST by torchthemummy (“America Will Not Reject Abortion Until America Sees Abortion” -Father Frank Pavone)
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Photobucket FBI wanted poster of D.B. Cooper
6 posted on 01/01/2008 3:03:28 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

He’s dead. The money was not spent.


7 posted on 01/01/2008 3:03:32 PM PST by kinoxi
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Photobucket FBI sketch of D.B. Cooper age progression.
8 posted on 01/01/2008 3:04:20 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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Photobucket Illustration of how the 727's rear airstair was used by Cooper to effect his escape. The airstair had not been designed for deployment in flight and was gravity-operated, meaning it fell open and stayed that way until the aircraft landed.
9 posted on 01/01/2008 3:05:03 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

I am D.B. Cooper.


10 posted on 01/01/2008 3:06:22 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

lol

For your sake, I hope the feds aren’t monitoring this thread!


11 posted on 01/01/2008 3:08:08 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


12 posted on 01/01/2008 3:09:51 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

I was 11 years old at the time and quite big for my age.


13 posted on 01/01/2008 3:09:58 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: DogByte6RER

I thought they [the fbi] had someone pegged for this years ago, but he died in prison. This guy was former military & had pulled the same crime as this.

I might be wrong, but I don’t think so....


14 posted on 01/01/2008 3:10:07 PM PST by TMSuchman (American by birth, Rebel by choice, Marine by act of GOD!)
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To: DogByte6RER

15 posted on 01/01/2008 3:11:50 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: DogByte6RER

“DogByte” = D.B.

hmmmmm....


16 posted on 01/01/2008 3:12:03 PM PST by dakine
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To: DogByte6RER

The FBI re-opening a case from 1971 ???? Clearly, they have too much time on their hands....or way too many agents. What a joke !!!! With “open borders”, a rampant “drug trade” and millions of “islamics” trying to kill us anywhere they can, someone in the FBI administration needs a swift kick in the ass wake up call to help identify priorities !!!


17 posted on 01/01/2008 3:13:04 PM PST by GoldenPup
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To: TMSuchman

Well...

Maybe that was some sort of urban legend.

The link back for this thread is to the FBI Press Room website.

This case hasn’t died for the feds.

Apparently a g-man in the Seattle office has some time to kill so he is taking another crack at this caper.


18 posted on 01/01/2008 3:15:18 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

Even the larger version of the map is too small to show any details.


19 posted on 01/01/2008 3:15:33 PM PST by wideminded
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To: DogByte6RER

Maybe he is hiding in plain sight...

http://www.dbcoopersmansion.com/contact.htm

Nice place....


20 posted on 01/01/2008 3:15:53 PM PST by Weaponier (Now is the time...)
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To: GoldenPup
The FBI re-opening a case from 1971 ???? Clearly, they have too much time on their hands....or way too many agents. What a joke !!!! With “open borders”, a rampant “drug trade” and millions of “islamics” trying to kill us anywhere they can, someone in the FBI administration needs a swift kick in the ass wake up call to help identify priorities !!!

Oh please! The FBI does this on a regular basis. They put out a call for help in solving cold cases. All they do is put out this type of bullitin and hope they get some hits. It is not as if they are sending hundreds of agents out into the woods looking for Cooper. Sheesh!

21 posted on 01/01/2008 3:16:15 PM PST by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
No! I am Sparticus D.B.Cooper!
22 posted on 01/01/2008 3:16:44 PM PST by null and void (Don't taunt the tiger...)
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To: GoldenPup

The D.B. Cooper mystery is sexier than drugs, illegals, gangs, or Islamic terror.


23 posted on 01/01/2008 3:17:05 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: torchthemummy

Newsradio-best sitcom ever!!


24 posted on 01/01/2008 3:17:13 PM PST by karatemom (Jesus saves.)
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To: DogByte6RER
"Help Us Solve the Enduring Mystery"

It's a shame that they don't have the same tenacity about Vince Foster.

25 posted on 01/01/2008 3:17:23 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: DogByte6RER
He's dead, Jim.

He died that night, either on impact or shortly thereafter. His body is somewhere upstream from where the kid found the money. None of the other money has ever turned up.

Darwin Award stuff, if we knew he hadn't reproduced.

26 posted on 01/01/2008 3:18:20 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: DogByte6RER

Gary Larson had Cooper landing into a ring of dogs on a rottweiler farm.


27 posted on 01/01/2008 3:18:28 PM PST by decimon
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To: DogByte6RER

Completely buried in some upland bog, where the bills bubbled up from — that’s my theory.


28 posted on 01/01/2008 3:20:59 PM PST by bvw
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To: GoldenPup

I agree.

Maybe this agent needs to be re-assigned to the regional Joint Terrorism Task Force, a criminal alien fugitive task force or even going COINTELPRO on groups like CAIR (ha, ha)

Still, this D.B. Cooper has always fascinated me since I was a kid. I would just like to know how this case ends...


29 posted on 01/01/2008 3:21:05 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

I believe that little problem was fixed after the Cooper incident...


30 posted on 01/01/2008 3:21:44 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

I’m Spartacus


31 posted on 01/01/2008 3:21:46 PM PST by MadMitch
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To: Calvin Locke

yup


32 posted on 01/01/2008 3:25:27 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
I am D.B. Cooper.

I don't want money, I want questions answered. Question one : Can I have some money?
33 posted on 01/01/2008 3:26:52 PM PST by mysterio
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To: GoldenPup

Right on! In another ten years, the FBI might try to convince everyone that D.B.Cooper was really Richard Jewell or Mark Hatfield. If the FBI is so sure D.B.Cooper couldn’t have survived the jump, why do they keep reviving the case? Maybe they realize that $5800. found is not much compared to the $200,000. taken. And no body ever found.


34 posted on 01/01/2008 3:27:27 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: DogByte6RER

He’s dead. Slug food.


35 posted on 01/01/2008 3:27:29 PM PST by RetiredArmy (Better prepare, come Nov 08, we have a Marxist Commissar President and Marxist Congress.)
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To: DogByte6RER
Hey FBI guys you make enough money and erode enough rights. Go solve you own crime. If I solve it I am buying DB a beer for putting one over on you for 36 years!!!
36 posted on 01/01/2008 3:30:04 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("Has there been a code nine? Have you heard from the Doctor?")
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To: Weaponier

lol

If that’s the case, I think the $200K in seed money has paid off quite well!

Come to think of it, that $200K in seed money was taxpayers’ money.

That means you and I own a stake in D.B. Cooper’s Mansion.

Now where is my free lap dance?


37 posted on 01/01/2008 3:30:52 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

Looks like Mike Huckabee.


38 posted on 01/01/2008 3:31:46 PM PST by manic4organic (Send a care package through USO today.)
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To: torchthemummy

I was just thinking that :-)


39 posted on 01/01/2008 3:32:04 PM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: GoldenPup

Completely agree. The Donks hand saw to it that 12 people entering a St. Louis polling place cast 37 votes a few years back, some from pets at home. They really have lost their way...


40 posted on 01/01/2008 3:34:43 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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More coverage here:

“FBI Makes New Bid to Find 1971 Skyjacker”

http://breakingnews.nypost.com/dynamic/stories/L/LOOKING_FOR_COOPER?SITE=NYNYP&SECTION=HOME


41 posted on 01/01/2008 3:35:24 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER; Rb ver. 2.0; All
"I am D.B. Cooper"
lol
For your sake, I hope the feds aren’t monitoring this thread!

I hope they are, in which case I will be the first to say to the FBI:

Stop wasting time on a 36 year old unsolved case just to placate your federal-sized egos. Tell Agent Carr to put all that brainpower, budget and skill into investigating today's threats to our national security, like al Qaeda sleeper cells, homegrown threats from our own traitors within our society, illegal immigrants smuggling weapons, contraband, drugs, etc., across our swiss-cheese borders, get the picture?

D.B. Cooper is dead. Close the damn file, stop putzing around in the past, and get to work on your *current* priorities.
42 posted on 01/01/2008 3:38:42 PM PST by mkjessup (Hunter-Bolton '08 !! Patriots who will settle for nothing less than *Victory* in the War on Terror!)
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To: DogByte6RER

I recently saw the Discovery Channel show that claimed it was Duane Weber and it was very convincing.

I’m questioning how they got a DNA sample out of a tie and how they could say with any certainty that it was Cooper’s. Assuming he didn’t bleed on the tie, I would guess they found a hair sample on the tie but, again, how can they be sure it was Cooper’s hair and how many hands could the tie have passed through before someone thought to preserve it as evidence? After all, by 1971 standards, the evidence one could have gleaned from it would be negligible.

Weber claimed to tell his wife on his deathbed in 1995 that he was “Dan Cooper”, not the publicized “D.B. Cooper” that the media called him. The wife had no idea who he was talking about and only found out after telling family members who then started researching. “Dan Cooper” would be a fitting alias for a “Duane Weber”, given the cadence of the name and the relative sound-alike quality.

Far from being a bungler, Cooper had to be aware that the plane he was on was one of the few commercial planes that allowed him to jump from the rear, rather than side exits. In addition, his note instructed the crew what speed and altitude they should travel at. Flying too high or too fast would have severely hampered his escape.

Weber also had an Air Force background as well as a criminal past in Washington state, two things that would have fit the profile. His photos around that time look like Cooper’s sketch although I felt the nose on Weber was more prominent.

The Discovery Channel used computer analysis of the Cooper sketch with photos of various could-have-beens and found Weber’s face matched the Cooper sketch most closely.

Weber said he buried the money after landing and planned to return for it a few years later but that he couldn’t remember where the burial site was and that the later explosion of Mt. St. Helen’s so altered the landscape that he decided the money could never be found.

FWIW, the Treasury Department claims that no money with serial numbers matching the ones Cooper left with have ever been recovered except for the $6000 or so found down river by kids in 1980.


43 posted on 01/01/2008 3:39:05 PM PST by Tall_Texan (No Third Term For Bill Clinton!)
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To: DogByte6RER

“He also missed that his reserve chute was only for training and had been sewn shut....”

You can tell this happened a long time ago. With all the lawyers we have now they would have a warning label on that today. His relatives should come forward and sue the airlines. They’d probably get a lot more than $200,000.


44 posted on 01/01/2008 3:40:59 PM PST by faq (There are no stupid questions. Only stupid people who ask questions.)
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To: mkjessup

mkjessup in ‘08!!
I like what you say and how you say it! :)


45 posted on 01/01/2008 3:44:36 PM PST by karatemom (Jesus saves.)
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To: karatemom

Thank you Dear Lady, but I would never be elected, I’m too politically incorrect, too blunt, too unconcerned about who I offend by telling the truth.

Just vote for Duncan Hunter, he’s the one true Reagan conservative in this race, and he’s worthy of our support.

And I heartily endorse your tagline, God Bless You.


46 posted on 01/01/2008 3:47:14 PM PST by mkjessup (Hunter-Bolton '08 !! Patriots who will settle for nothing less than *Victory* in the War on Terror!)
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To: DogByte6RER

Thanks. :’)

Arkansas man says he’s boy who found hijacker ransom money in Washington state
Seattle Post-Intelligencer | Sunday, February 12, 2006 | Associated Press
Posted on 02/12/2006 5:00:16 PM EST by skeptoid
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1577202/posts

D.B. Cooper (Vanity)
Posted on 05/06/2006 1:22:55 AM EDT by Ptarmigan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1627716/posts

Unmasking D.B. Cooper
n y magazine | October 22, 2007 | geoffery gray
Posted on 10/22/2007 1:17:35 PM EDT by dickmc
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1914657/posts

Claim: Infamous hijacker lived in Wash. (D.B. Cooper found?)
UPI | Oct 24, 2007 | not specified
Posted on 10/24/2007 10:22:36 PM EDT by RDTF
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1915995/posts

On This Day In History: Nov. 24, 1971 -
Hijacker “D.B. Cooper” Parachutes Into Thunderstorm
History.com | November 24, 2007 | History.com
Posted on 11/24/2007 8:08:10 PM EST by DogByte6RER
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1930086/posts


47 posted on 01/01/2008 3:48:41 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 30, 2007)
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To: Tall_Texan

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/doubleissue/mysteries/cooper.htm

More on the Weber-Cooper theory.


48 posted on 01/01/2008 3:54:19 PM PST by Tall_Texan (No Third Term For Bill Clinton!)
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To: DogByte6RER
Here is his picture:

(OK, it is only Burt Reynolds playing D.B. Cooper in the movie "Without A Paddle.")

49 posted on 01/01/2008 3:56:17 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: DogByte6RER

Maybe John Edwards can channel him.


50 posted on 01/01/2008 3:58:36 PM PST by catpuppy
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