Although I don't doubt Fred opposes the ICC, I wish he would have included a source rather than just a statement with no context.
Posted on 01/01/2008 10:26:39 PM PST by ellery
Theoretically I can still see where he’s coming from, in the sense that if we are “subject” to any international law, then we are not sovereign.
On the flip side our Founders signed treates and provided for that in the Constitution. I guess I just find it uncomfortable to think of those agreements as “law” — I think of them as contracts that we will follow until such time as we feel it’s not in our national interest.
:) It’s interesting that I wasn’t surprised by most of the candidates’ responses (although it boggles my mind that a former POW would even consider getting anywhere near the ICC).
I agree that Romney and Giuliani would be wobbly based on public opinion.
Huckabee to me is the real wild card. He says he’s strongly anti-LOST, which is great — but on the other hand he’s Mr. Open Borders and wants to close Gitmo because of international public opinion. I don’t get it. Or maybe you’re right, and he doesn’t get it.
Ugh.
While you are correct when you say he has sold Americans out and will never be President, I disagree when you say he is putting a few dollars in his greedy hand. Unless you have proof of course that he is lining his pockets(I probably missed the story). He should then go to prison. Well, I probably obsessed on a small issue. I am sorry, then.
Jonathan
Romney I’m not sure of, but I think despite all Giuliani’s domestic liberalism, he’d be pretty damn against any foreign entity pushing him and our country around.
Paul and Huckabee are the only ones actively against the United Nations though. Take that for what it’s worth.
This is scary, IMHO. McCain is showing his “true colors” here. I wonder how he feels about the “North American Union” — I don’t think I even have to ask do I?
Although I don't doubt Fred opposes the ICC, I wish he would have included a source rather than just a statement with no context.
I dunno: has any International Court had any effect? Every prosecution has the subject of the trial dying of natural causes before any decision is ever reached! ;-)
Everytime I try to quit the I Hate McCain Club, they pull me back in....
First, while the ICC treaty has been un-signed by Bush, and not approved by the Senate, the US is informally participating in the spirit of the treaty. In order to avoid appearances of not participating, the US has had to adopt a degree of zealousness. Ask yourself, when it comes to US military personnel involved at Haditha, who would be more zealous, the ICC or the US Govt. The answer is, the US Govt.
Second, how successful has the US been at making bilateral agreements instead of signing the multilateral treaty? The article says only 100 bilateral agreements. It should also mentioned that Bush's policy of cutting off military aid to nations that wouldn't make a bilateral had to be rescinded when some nations replaced the lost US military aid with military aid from China.
But he did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
MARSHALLTOWN, IOWA -- In stark contrast to his opponents' schedules, Fred Thompson made only one campaign stop today [1/1/08], at a home for veterans in Marshalltown, Iowa. "We decided that we would come out here and wish these veterans a happy new year and thank them for the service to their country," Thompson said.
source: CBS News.
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Just one more reason why McNutball should never be allowed to get his hands on the levers of power. One thing we don't need for sure is some far-left globalist world court condemning and sanctioning us for defending ourselves with whatever force is required to do the job. If waterboardng is torture but gets results that saves American lives, then so be it and let world opinion like it or lump it.
I can't believe that waterboarding is torture if our own intelligence people have to experience it themselves, and even some journalists have gone through it without physical injury or mental discombobalation. I won't get my Fruit of the Looms in a wad if a murderous terrorist is really tortured on a medieval rack if that's what it takes to save American lives, but McLame, who to be fair did experience real torture in VN, seems to have a psychological blackout on the entire issue.
This in regard to blatant calls for assassination of their own people. People who call for immigration reform and deportation of criminals masquerading as religious zealots.
I suppose it must be a "cultural thing" and therefore, according to them(officials) it will go away. These courts sound a distant death knell for sovereign nations, heed them not.
McCain might be many things, but he's not an "idiot." He just sees things differently, not least because of his experience at the hands of the North Vietnamese who acted like war criminals.
His experience as a longtime AZ politician tells him that his constituents wanted Amnesty?
His experience as a conservative had him teamed up with Lindsay Graham and the other Rinos in the Gang of 14?
His experience with the constitution led him to believe that restricting free speech ahead of an election was legal and wise?
His experience with the 2nd Amendment told him that it was OK to ban ‘cheap handguns’, ‘assualt weapons’, and require trigger locks?
His experience in foreign affairs tells him that world opinion is sufficient to close Guantanamo?
His experience in conservatism tells him that affirmative action is a good thing?
His experience in military matters tells him enemy combatants that do not follow the Geneva Convention are due Geneva Convention treatment?
His experience as a scientist tells him Global Warming is man made and a “serious problem”?
If Pub voters really go for John, the MSM and the Dems will secretly be cheering because many Pubs will remember that John has had as many liberal positions as he has had , self-proclaimed, conservative views. Even Rudy is against this as is Fred. Still the best team for me.
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