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Man, 69, gets bones broken counseling against abortions
WorldNetDaily ^ | 1 Jan 2008 | Staff Writer

Posted on 01/02/2008 5:39:38 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Pro-life activists are calling for an investigation into – and possibly prosecution of – police officers who responded to a severely injured abortion clinic sidewalk counselor, but then allowed his suspected attacker to leave the scene.

"It is unbelievable that an officer would allow an attacker to go free after inflicting life-threatening injuries on an elderly gentleman, then threaten to arrest the witness to the crime," said Troy Newman, president of Operation Rescue.

"That was not only unprofessional conduct, but it showed a fundamental lack of respect for Mr. Snell's life and beliefs. She should face serious discipline."

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1 posted on 01/02/2008 5:39:41 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

More of the tolerant left; diversity of opinion honored. < /sarc >

As Rush says, they are pro-choice, as long as the choice is to ABORT!


2 posted on 01/02/2008 5:43:14 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Maybe she made this decision independently but I would be surprised if she did not discuss this with a supervisor first.
3 posted on 01/02/2008 5:46:26 AM PST by CindyDawg (.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
...towards the abortion business with a man.

However, the man suddenly jumped the fence, "leaped on the vehicle with Ed and catapulted him off of the vehicle and onto the ground," he said. Snell landed on his back and head and was knocked unconscious, he said.

That was no man; that was a sperm donor unwilling to pay 18 years for his moments of fun!

4 posted on 01/02/2008 5:48:38 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: JimRed

Isn’t that because if a woman chooses not to abort, then she isn’t considered pro-choice, but pro-life?


5 posted on 01/02/2008 6:00:13 AM PST by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Ed Snell has been at the Planned Parenthood abortuary in my town (York,PA) also.

He and some other friends are deeply committed and have been hassled by the York police when they stand outside the abortion clinic here.

Those Harrisburg cops let the guy walk and later said they didn’t know how badly Snell was hurt. At the time the attacker was charged with simple assault.

It shows you some police are more worried about protecting abortion clinics than protecting those opposed to them.

Word now is that the attacker is charged with aggravated assault, a more serious charge.


6 posted on 01/02/2008 6:08:09 AM PST by Nextrush (NO WAY MCCAIN but I remain uncommitted.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

If a pro-abortion activist was hurt anywhere NEAR this badly, does anyone think for a SECOND that the police would have let the assailant walk?


7 posted on 01/02/2008 6:23:32 AM PST by cake_crumb (Global Warming : it's so warm in Antarctica, you'd think it's summer down there)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; Admin Moderator
That sly sneer about 'WorldNutDaily' in the URL link should be edited to the correct spelling 'WorldNetDaily', there is nothing nutty about an article that is pro-life and anti-abortion.
8 posted on 01/02/2008 6:25:46 AM PST by mkjessup (Hunter-Bolton '08 !! Patriots who will settle for nothing less than *Victory* in the War on Terror!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; mkjessup

Agreed. If you’re going to post from WND, please have the courtesy to use their correct name.


9 posted on 01/02/2008 6:32:23 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: mkjessup

Tell that to the Ron Paul bashers.


10 posted on 01/02/2008 6:33:44 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Obadiah

Here’s another source — if anyone feels they need one: http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1157


11 posted on 01/02/2008 6:50:41 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

And from Operation Rescue:

Pro-lifer Seriously Injured in Violent Attack; OR Says Officer Should Be Disciplined
December 31st, 2007

Harrisburg, PA - Ed Snell, 69, received serious injuries that doctors feared could have cost him his life during an attack on December 22, 2007, outside the Hillcrest Abortion Center in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. The responding female officer not only let the attacker go, but threatened to arrest witnesses that identified the perpetrator and demanded his arrest.

Mr. Snell was standing on a sturdy platform he had attached to the top of his vehicle in order to offer help to women over a fence that had been erected to prevent pro-lifers from speaking to them. Witness John McTernan said that a man who was escorting a woman into the abortion clinic, “leaped on the vehicle with Ed and catapulted him off of the vehicle and onto the ground.” Mr. Snell struck the pavement with his head. He was transported by ambulance to the hospital where he was treated for multiple trauma, bleeding in the area between the brain and the tissues that cover the brain, compression fractures of four vertebrae, right scapula fracture, and fracture of the fourth and fifth ribs.

Three officers arrived to investigate but allowed the perpetrator to leave the scene. When Mr. McTernan objected and demanded an arrest, the female officer threatened to arrest him for interfering with a police investigation. (Click here to read the entire story.)

“It is unbelievable that an officer would allow an attacker to go free after inflicting life-threatening injuries on an elderly gentleman, then threaten to arrest the witness to the crime,” said Operation Rescue President Troy Newman. “That was not only unprofessional conduct, but it showed a fundamental lack of respect for Mr. Snell’s life and beliefs. She should face serious discipline.”

Mr. Snell was released from the hospital the following day. His recovery is expected to take a full 8 weeks. Meanwhile, upon learning the seriousness of Mr. Snell’s injuries, the police finally arrested and charged the man with felony assault.

This incident adds to a growing list of attacks on pro-lifers in recent months, which have all included unprofessional police conduct. Operation Rescue recommends that pro-lifers establish regular communications with local police supervisors in order to educate them as to the peaceful nature of pro-life activities and their protection under the First Amendment.


12 posted on 01/02/2008 6:53:23 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Sounds like a true “hate crime” was committed against Mr. Snell.... although I won’t hold my breath waiting for the Harrisburg DA to charge it as such.


13 posted on 01/02/2008 6:56:45 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Why would any biblically literate Christian be surprised when Godless pro-death people like the attacker physically assault Christians whose public stand on life and death issues such as abortion conflicts with the attacker's Godless lifestyle and choices? Christ himself told his followers that in the world they would face tribulation and persecution, and oh brother was He ever right.

I fully expect incidents like this outrageous assault and the cops' obvious bias against pro-lifers to get much worse and much more common as the end of this age of grace approaches. In a way that's encouraging, because the only way this wicked world will ever get any better is for Jesus Christ to return to rule and reign over it with a rod or iron as he promised he would.

14 posted on 01/02/2008 6:59:40 AM PST by epow (If you offer me a penny for my thoughts and I put in my 2 cents, will I get a penny back in change?)
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To: JimRed

He was probably afraid that Ed would talk his ‘girlfriend’ out of the abortion.


15 posted on 01/02/2008 7:01:07 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: mvpel
Tell that to the Ron Paul bashers.

This article has nothing to do with Ron Paul.
16 posted on 01/02/2008 7:01:40 AM PST by mkjessup (Hunter-Bolton '08 !! Patriots who will settle for nothing less than *Victory* in the War on Terror!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; Admin Moderator

Perhaps you should correct the source which appears as “WorldNutDaily” so as to avoid the appearance of an intentional slur.


17 posted on 01/02/2008 7:15:24 AM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: cake_crumb

IF a pro-abort ever got a scratch in a scuffle he started, the MSM would be all over it-claiming prolifers are violent for defending themselves.


18 posted on 01/02/2008 7:18:48 AM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

bump


19 posted on 01/02/2008 7:19:46 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: stuartcr; JimRed
"Isn’t that because if a woman chooses not to abort, then she isn’t considered pro-choice, but pro-life?"

This is incorrect. Thre are lots of women who have given birth to children of their own but as still (as they say) "pro-choice," indicatin that the still believe the choice to kill one's children should be legal, as long as one does it before birth.

I even saw, in a video of last year's West Coast Walk for Life, a pregnant, angry feminist counter-demonstrator who exposed her pregnant belly, on which she had written the slogan, "My fetus is pro-choice."

Rather stupid, though, since it is rather unlikelay that the young'un in question actually comunicated this opinion to his mom.

20 posted on 01/02/2008 7:26:10 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Christus natus est! O Magnum Mysterium! Christ is born! Glorify Him!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

If the woman inside could be asked, I doubt if she would say “kill me”


21 posted on 01/02/2008 8:18:51 AM PST by CindyDawg (.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Not getting the hint, and not to be deterred by a 7-foot fence, this guy puts a sheet of plywood on the roof of his car so he can taunt, humiliate, and berate "counsel" the women passing by to use this legal service. He's allowed to do this because he has God on his side.

The man accompanying the woman (spouse? father? friend?), annoyed by this, jumps on the platform, "catapulting" the other guy off. And it's his fault the geezer was injured.

I call this, "Asking for trouble and getting it". If, instead, the geezer was "counselling" gun buyers going into a gun store, I think posters would agree.

22 posted on 01/02/2008 8:20:24 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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It shows you some police are more worried about protecting abortion clinics than protecting those opposed to them.
23 posted on 01/02/2008 8:30:59 AM PST by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: robertpaulsen

“He’s allowed to do this because he has God on his side.”

Also because he has constitutional rights to do so. I wish there had been such annoying old men at the doors of Auschwitz. But they were too busy being good Germans.


24 posted on 01/02/2008 8:47:20 AM PST by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: robertpaulsen
If somebody had purchased a winning million-dollar lottery ticket, but didn't realize it because they inadvertently stuffed it in the trash receptacle at McDonalds, and a well-meaning bystander picked up the ticket and tried to contact the owner, approaching him in the parking lot to say "Wait, wait, there's something important I really need to tell you..." I don't think he would be faulted for "berating."

Your child's life is worth more than a winning lottery ticket. Moreover, prolifers at abortion clinics are willing to go to impressive lengths to help, support, and empower women --- particularly young and poor women --- to welcome and provide for their babies.

The "geezer" you mention has saved lives from certain, violent death. This in itself distinguishes him in an essential way from any other hypothetic person soliciting the public at any other business establishment.

25 posted on 01/02/2008 8:51:07 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Mammalia Primatia Hominidae Homo sapiens. Still working on the "sapiens" part.)
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To: Marie2
"Also because he has constitutional rights to do so."

Well, we don't know what he was doing or saying, do we? So it's hard to say the U.S. Constitution protected that activity.

26 posted on 01/02/2008 9:23:25 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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"I don't think he would be faulted for "berating."

Not at all. But I think that's a far cry from what happened outside the abortion clinic.

"The "geezer" you mention has saved lives from certain, violent death.'

I'm sure. I don't fault him at all for what he's doing. Actually, I applaud his efforts.

All I'm saying is that he shouldn't be surprised when his actions result in a reaction from people who are in the middle of an emotional event. Placing your 69-year-old body on a shaky plywood platform on top of a car and "counselling" women (accompanied by men) by shouting at them is not a real smart move. In my book.

27 posted on 01/02/2008 9:37:55 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

You seem to be of two minds on this. One the one hand, you insist that the “geezer” was there merely to “taunt, humiliate, and berate.” A few posts later, you say you “applaud his efforts.”

Which is it?


28 posted on 01/02/2008 9:53:00 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Inquiring minds want to know.)
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"A few posts later, you say you “applaud his efforts.”

His efforts to stop abortions.

But no, I don't agree with his methods.

29 posted on 01/02/2008 11:37:23 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Well, methods are always up for discussion. Anyone with a better way to save a fellow human being at risk of getting killed is always welcome --- believe me, really welcome --- to test it out and tell us the results.

Everything we've tried so far exposes us to frustration, personal cost,injury and calumny, and saves only a few babies from the knife.

So, your turn: you see a situation right before your eyes which is going to quickly end up with a woman wounded and a baby dead. Your response is...?

30 posted on 01/02/2008 12:13:13 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Tip o' the hat.)
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"So, your turn: you see a situation right before your eyes which is going to quickly end up with a woman wounded and a baby dead. Your response is...?"

.... climb up on the roof of a car, point my finger at her, and call her a selfish, immoral, murdering whore who will burn in Hell for what she's about to do.

You did say you welcome other ways, right? Excuse me. Really welcome other ways.

31 posted on 01/02/2008 1:14:49 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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Yep, a non violent annoying geezer, an annoying fetus, that annoying First Amendment, and an annoyed violent male.

I can figure out who is wrong here, I'm surprised you're so easily annoyed.

32 posted on 01/02/2008 1:41:04 PM PST by Navy Patriot (The hyphen American with the loudest whine gets the grease.)
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To: Navy Patriot
So the geezer should be allowed to annoy with impunity because he’s got God on his side? He can say and do what he wants because he's on the side of righteousness?

One question: Does that also apply to other religions, or just yours?

33 posted on 01/02/2008 2:31:23 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: BenLurkin
The responding female officer not only let the attacker go, but threatened to arrest witnesses that identified the perpetrator and demanded his arrest.

I'll bet anybody $10 she's pro-choice.

She should be fired.

34 posted on 01/02/2008 3:14:51 PM PST by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: robertpaulsen
".... climb up on the roof of a car, point my finger at her, and call her a selfish, immoral, murdering whore who will burn in Hell for what she's about to do. "

Very poor idea. I might knock you down myself.

35 posted on 01/02/2008 3:46:01 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Tip o' the frilly feminine hat.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"Very poor idea. I might knock you down myself."

And I'd be the first to say I deserved it.

The point being we don't know what the geezer said or did. Perhaps he wasn't as graphic as I illustrated, but graphic enough to set off the woman's companion.

36 posted on 01/02/2008 3:55:38 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
I've done a lot of sidewalk counseling in the past. You don't have to be graphic to set some "male companions" off. You can see them from a block and a half away, trampling the primula bed, kicking the side of the building. I almost think it's a good sign: they know something's goddamn wrong, but they're not sure what or why.

I was not a particularly "good" sidewalk counselsor. If you tallied it up, you might get 3 for-sure saves, 3 maybe-saves, half a dozen angry people, half a hundred troubled people.

If I hadn't said a word, it would be: -0- for-sure saves, -0- maybe saves, half a dozen angry people, half a hundred troubled people.

Rapidly calculating the worth of several live kids and several vocally grateful mothers and fathers, I conclude: worth the cost.

37 posted on 01/02/2008 4:06:46 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (C'est la Vie.)
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To: robertpaulsen

You have bought into a stereotype regarding sidewalk counselors. I did sidewalk counseling for three years, until I had a baby of my own and my husband asked me to stop due to the violence and threats of the “escorts” and some passersby. I knew about 50 sidewalk counselors. Only one was obnoxious. The rest were reasonable people who were easy to talk to and obeyed the law.


38 posted on 01/02/2008 4:26:13 PM PST by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: robertpaulsen
So the geezer should be allowed to annoy with impunity because he’s got God on his side?

You said that (twice) not I, Bobby Paul.

He can say and do what he wants because he's on the side of righteousness?

Again, you, not I. I cited the First Amendment and said I know who is right, not Righteous.

Does that also apply to other religions, or just yours?

First Amendment protects all people regardless of their religion, but I don't suppose you would know that, so, Yes.

39 posted on 01/03/2008 12:58:06 PM PST by Navy Patriot (The hyphen American with the loudest whine gets the grease.)
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