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Clinton Camp Pre-Spinning Possible BAD NEWS IN IOWA: Third-Place Finish Would Not Be Disappointing
ABC News ^ | 01.02.08 | RICK KLEIN

Posted on 01/02/2008 1:06:50 PM PST by rface

As the presidential candidates engage in furious pre-caucus spin, one of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's most prominent Iowa supporters said Wednesday that she's already accomplished what she needs to in Iowa, and can declare success even if she finishes in third place.

Asked if the order of finish matters, Former governor Tom Vilsack, D-Iowa, deflected the question.

"She absolutely had to be competitive and she's accomplished that," he said. "Obviously everybody's interested in winning, and I think we're going to do well. It's tight. There's no question about that."

In May, Vilsack was quoted in the Washington Post, saying, "There's no question she's playing in Iowa and playing to win,' Tom Vilsack, who dropped out of the presidential race earlier this year and endorsed Clinton."

Vilsack's comments reflect the widespread uncertainty -- and the panicked dash to manage expectations.......

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I think Chelsea is very .......pretty


1 posted on 01/02/2008 1:06:52 PM PST by rface
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To: rface
I think Chelsea is very .......pretty

Maybe, but can she take a lump of sugar or a carrot out of my hand

2 posted on 01/02/2008 1:09:05 PM PST by tx_eggman ("Believing without loving turns the best of creeds into a weapon of oppression" Eugene Peterson)
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To: rface
She is misshapen ~ at the same time her mother is probably going to pull fewer votes in the Democrat caucus than Ron Paul in the Republican caucus.

Still, cudoes to Chelsea's team of plastic surgeons. If she can continue to stand the discomfort and pain as her jaws are reworked, maybe she can eventually become a public person.

3 posted on 01/02/2008 1:10:30 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: tx_eggman

Apparently you can put lipstick on a pig.


4 posted on 01/02/2008 1:12:57 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: rface

5 posted on 01/02/2008 1:13:19 PM PST by maggief
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To: rface

6 posted on 01/02/2008 1:13:24 PM PST by gunservative
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To: rface
A true example of how effective “Photoshop” really is. I would say it is nearly miraculous!
7 posted on 01/02/2008 1:13:39 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: tx_eggman

I will always give any person (especially a pretty woman) an assumption of being a nice and genuine individual, until she shows me otherwise......even if she has Hillary and Bill as parents. I am sure it was a difficult position to be in.


8 posted on 01/02/2008 1:14:58 PM PST by rface (kooky inside and out)
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To: rface

Thats a purty mouth...


9 posted on 01/02/2008 1:16:20 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: rface

I do see a resemblance to Wes Hubbell.


10 posted on 01/02/2008 1:16:31 PM PST by AU72
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To: gunservative

Proof positive..the mouth is the give-away.


11 posted on 01/02/2008 1:18:12 PM PST by evad (.)
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To: rface

She is her mother’s daughter. After 9-11, the first thing she thought of was “how are we going to take care of all the victims after Bush’s tax cuts.”


12 posted on 01/02/2008 1:22:04 PM PST by gate2wire
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To: rface

She is her mother’s daughter. After 9-11, the first thing she thought of was “how are we going to take care of all the victims after Bush’s tax cuts.”


13 posted on 01/02/2008 1:22:49 PM PST by gate2wire
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To: AU72
Wes was pay back for Bill’s indiscretions.
14 posted on 01/02/2008 1:24:03 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: rface
The rapist is on PSNBC saying I I I as he campaigns for Hillary.
15 posted on 01/02/2008 1:26:03 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( UNITED BY OUR CORE BELIEFS Fred08)
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To: gate2wire

And remember she was jogging down by the WTC, before she wasn’t.


16 posted on 01/02/2008 1:26:50 PM PST by petercooper ("Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime." - Nicole Gelinas - 02-10-04)
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To: rface
Third-Place Finish Would Not Be Disappointing

Go for broke, Hillary - shoot for last!
17 posted on 01/02/2008 1:28:57 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: petercooper

Hillary? Third Place? Oh, that’s going to be a 24 ashtray tirade.


18 posted on 01/02/2008 1:29:39 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: evad
Third place finish would not be disappointing

We're happy we lost--sounds of screaming, shreiking, lamps and dishes shattering, flying monkeys screeching........
19 posted on 01/02/2008 1:31:27 PM PST by BerryDingle (With friends like the media, who needs enemas ?)
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To: rface

I met Chelsea and Bill once while he was pres. It was at a bar in Jackson Hole, and I was in a small upstairs part of the bar, and Clinton, a bunch of WhiteHouse staffers and Chelsea came and ate right right next to me.

The White House staffers were all 20-somethings, Chelsea was still a teenager, I think. It was in Summer ‘95 - right after Jerry Garcia had died.

Anyhow, everyone at the table were basically jerks except Chelsea.

It was a small crowded space, and the only one there who had the courtesy to say “excuse me” to my date as she pushed her way into the table was Chelsea. The rest of the White House staffers just seemed like rude jerks thinking they were big shots.

I had a conversation with her when she left.

She was very kind and courteous.

She was like the one sweet girl in a room of arrogant young people.

I think she’s probably a very nice person, and I also liked when she stood up for the US against a lot of US-bashing at school in England.


20 posted on 01/02/2008 1:33:47 PM PST by Chameleon
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To: BerryDingle
heh..3rd place is just purrrfect...


21 posted on 01/02/2008 1:34:25 PM PST by evad (.)
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To: Nonstatist

Thats a purty mouth...

Very BASS like!


22 posted on 01/02/2008 1:34:51 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: BerryDingle

I’ve seen her hips and butt and she wasn’t jogging any where after 9-11!!! Fir a young person she sure has had a lot of plastic done! Ya wonder about her inner beauty if any being raised by these two yutzs!


23 posted on 01/02/2008 1:35:14 PM PST by LYSandra
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To: Chameleon
She was like the one sweet girl in a room of arrogant young people.....

I am glad to hear this story

24 posted on 01/02/2008 1:38:07 PM PST by rface (kooky inside and out)
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To: rface
Photobucket
25 posted on 01/02/2008 1:38:15 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Chameleon

Well put. Chelsea can’t help her looks. And she can’t help who her parents are. I think she has gotten a lot of totally undeserved bashing here on FR.


26 posted on 01/02/2008 1:41:52 PM PST by Notary Sojac (Bring Back Paul Volcker!!)
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To: rface
Third place finish?

Besides Edwards and Obama, Biden, Richardson, Dodd, and Kucinich are still in the race. Wouldn't it be tasty if she came in seventh?

27 posted on 01/02/2008 1:44:09 PM PST by Octar
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To: rface

I predicted a Clinton 3rd place finish in Iowa a month ago.


28 posted on 01/02/2008 1:44:14 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Recon Dad
Thats a purty mouth...

Very BASS like!

I had something else in mind.

29 posted on 01/02/2008 1:55:40 PM PST by dearolddad (Opinions are like rectums: everybody has one.)
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To: Notary Sojac

I read a book a few years back about insiders (White House insiders) over the years remarking about the various offspring of the various presidents. Chelsea got good reviews, so to speak. She was described as basically a good kid (though her mother was disliked immensely). The only presidential kid who was despised by practically everyone was Amy Carter.


30 posted on 01/02/2008 1:58:53 PM PST by ought-six
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To: Cobra64


Upon learning she came in third place, Hillary
flew into a rage, wandering the streets, then took
a Hotel "dishwasher" hostage on a 75th floor patio
balcony; threatening to take him with her.
31 posted on 01/02/2008 1:58:58 PM PST by BerryDingle (With friends like the media, who needs enemas ?)
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To: Chameleon

Nice Chelsea story.


32 posted on 01/02/2008 1:59:47 PM PST by tioga (Happy New Year!)
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To: rface
"Drink will flow and blood will spill and if the boys dykes wanna fight you better let 'em."
33 posted on 01/02/2008 2:00:23 PM PST by relictele
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To: Octar

Off the topic but I’m housebound today and watching a lot of the Iowa coverage. Every clip I’ve of Hil has Huma within inches of her. If you didn’t know you would swear she was Hil’s Secret Service agent. She’s extremely homely!


34 posted on 01/02/2008 2:02:22 PM PST by surrey
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To: rface

Scrape the bottom vote for rodham


35 posted on 01/02/2008 2:03:59 PM PST by WhirlwindAttack (Muck the Fuslims. They owe me a son. And I got something for you rat's too.)
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"She absolutely had to be competitive and she's accomplished that," he said

No Tom, finishing LAST among the viable, non-asterisk percentaged candidates IS NOT GOOD for the candidate who was originally to be crowned.

36 posted on 01/02/2008 2:07:55 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: WhirlwindAttack

I guess the difference between a caucus and an election is that the ballots or whatever are not secret.So, if you’ve been polite to Hillary and then turn on her, what happens to you??


37 posted on 01/02/2008 2:09:36 PM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: BerryDingle
Photobucket
38 posted on 01/02/2008 2:12:02 PM PST by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: rface

If you’re running for student council, third is fine. This is for the POTUS. Third is NOT FINE for Hillary. She was the only real candidate when this started...the keeper of the Dem Party and THE PURSE!!


39 posted on 01/02/2008 2:12:07 PM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Chameleon
That is a nice story, and I'm sure that many political children are like her.

I do not like to mock or hear people mock the look of any woman, be they Hillary, Helen Thomas or even Cindy Sheehan. Men can handle the comments about their looks a lot more than women can so comments about men don't really bother me. (Sounds sexist, but it's true.)

The disparaging remarks about Chelsea are the worst in my opinion. Growing up in the spotlight is hard enough for anyone, but when your physical looks are trashed by thousands of people who don't even know you, that's devastating.

I hope she stays away from politics, as I am sure I would not agree with her on any issue, but I hope that people will not put the sins of her parents on her for the rest of her life either.

40 posted on 01/02/2008 2:12:46 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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I would like to know if there are any charter buses within and without Iowa border states still available for caucus day in Iowa. I expect a ‘miracle’ in Iowa. Her base will not follow Huckabee they will follow her from anointing upon high.
41 posted on 01/02/2008 2:15:54 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

I’m sure Chelsea holds a million secrets and some disdain for her parents. Maybe when she’s older and they’ve passed away, she’ll tell us the hurts she has gone through.


42 posted on 01/02/2008 2:16:34 PM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

You’re right, I think she looks good in that pic.

I’d hit it, it would give me something to think about during my next root canal.


43 posted on 01/02/2008 2:19:25 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Chameleon
She was very kind and courteous.

Was she courteous to her "personal pigs"(aka Secret Service agents) with her? Just wondering.

44 posted on 01/02/2008 2:23:27 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: rface

Reminds me of Dana Delaney in Tombstone.


45 posted on 01/02/2008 2:41:36 PM PST by shaft29
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To: reagan_fanatic
Go for broke, Hillary - shoot for last!


46 posted on 01/02/2008 2:53:58 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: rface

Chelseas face looks like a dogs ass.
And as for Mrs.Clinton, ya can tell when she’s lying, her mouth moves.


47 posted on 01/02/2008 2:59:32 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Sacajaweau

My prediction: If Hillary is ever in danger of losing the nomination, she will file a legal separation against Sissboy and put her daughter on Oprah to tell how she has been abused.


48 posted on 01/02/2008 3:13:44 PM PST by shaft29
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To: massgopguy

No matter how she fairs in Iowa or anywhere else, she has the nomination locked up, bought and paid for.


49 posted on 01/02/2008 3:19:10 PM PST by boomop1
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To: rface

She should look pretty at least sometimes, she has had plenty of work done as has her mother. They have lousy genetic material and need all the help that they can get from the knife of a surgeon.


50 posted on 01/02/2008 3:21:34 PM PST by rodeo-mamma
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