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UK IVF Clinics Have Intentionally Killed over One Million Human Embryonic Children
LifeSiteNews ^ | 1/2/08 | John Connolly

Posted on 01/02/2008 3:51:06 PM PST by wagglebee

LONDON, January 2, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Following a UK Parliamentary question, data from a government organization showed that over one million human embryonic children were killed in the UK in the past 14 years as 'waste' embryos from in vitro fertilization (IVF) processes.

The acquired data showed that 2,137,924 embryonic humans were created using IVF between 1991 and 2005, but about 1.2m were never used. Scientists killed the embryos who were not deemed strong enough for implantation, and froze those not considered 'waste' embryos. Those that survived the freezing process will die in ten years if not implanted.

'Surplus' embryos were created because women responded differently to fertility drugs, doctors told the Times Online. As many as 40 IVF-fertilized eggs can be used in some treatments. The embryos are then assessed for viability, with only about 20% usually considered strong enough to implant successfully in a woman.

Lord Alton of Liverpool, an independent peer noted for his stance against abortion, tabled the question to parliament and obtained the statistics from the Department of Health. He said that embryos were being created and destroyed at "an incredible rate," and advocates embryonic adoption for those embryos that aren't used for implantation in IVF.

"IVF has ensured that a number of people have been given a chance to have children. But it is surprising how many embryos are being destroyed in the process," he said. "This is a rather unexpected aspect of IVF. If you could just create an embryo to implant, that would be fine. I think it would be much better if these embryos that are going to be destroyed were used for infertile couples. At least they would have a chance of life. The number of embryos used is expanding year after year."

Embryo adoption is legally permitted in the UK and United States, but is rare in both countries. Advocates of the process are also calling for the embryonic children to be given up for adoption, where all of them will be frozen and all the survivors used for infertility treatment, provided volunteers with the necessary money can be found within the ten year period.

"Lots of people do have surplus embryos and if people could think about donating embryos it would be wonderful," said a spokesman for Infertility Network UK. "Embryo donation is a much bigger thing in America; it is like adoption. It would be good thing to explore further."

In America, the Snowflakes charity arranges the adoption of embryos by couples who want children. This has, however, led to the birth of only 157 babies in the past 10 years.

The Los Angeles-based Snowflakes charity said it does not "discriminate" between embryos judged to be healthy or unhealthy and added that embryos it has used, which doctors had judged not to be viable, have still produced healthy babies.

The number of pregnancies that have occurred through embryo adoption remains low in the U.S. and the UK due to its high cost and controversial nature. To avoid twin and triplet pregnancies, embryo adoption agencies attempt to implant one and two embryos at a time, an expensive process that usually needs to be done multiple times before a frozen embryo survives in the womb of the adoptive mother.

Last month the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority, the regulator of IVF practice in the UK, called for a reduction of twin pregnancies in IVF, leading scientists and doctors to look for IVF methods that will use fewer embryos. The authority wants to see many women offered just one fertilised embryo, a step which would minimize the chances of a twin birth and would reduce the number of embryonic children being created and destroyed a few days later.

See LifeSiteNews Special Report on IVF:
http://www.lifesite.net/features/invitro/

See Previous LifeSiteNews Coverage:

Adoptive Parents of Girl Frozen as Embryo Battle Embryonic Stem Cell Research
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/apr/07041908.html

Canadian IVF Researchers Admit 80-90% of IVF-Created Human Embryos Doomed to Die
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2003/nov/03112601.html

VATICAN SOLUTION TO LEFT OVER EMBRYO DILEMMA IS LITTLE KNOWN
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2002/dec/02120401.html

ABOUT 170,000 IVF EMBRYO DEATHS PER YEAR IN U.S.
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2002/nov/02112202.html



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abortion; embryos; invitrofertilization; ivf; moralabsolutes; prolife
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"IVF has ensured that a number of people have been given a chance to have children. But it is surprising how many embryos are being destroyed in the process," he said. "This is a rather unexpected aspect of IVF. If you could just create an embryo to implant, that would be fine. I think it would be much better if these embryos that are going to be destroyed were used for infertile couples. At least they would have a chance of life. The number of embryos used is expanding year after year."

Far more are killed than are born.

1 posted on 01/02/2008 3:51:08 PM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 01/02/2008 3:51:31 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Moral Absolutes Ping!

Freepmail wagglebee or little jeremiah to subscribe or unsubscribe from the moral absolutes ping list.

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3 posted on 01/02/2008 3:51:56 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
"Embryo donation is a much bigger thing in America; it is like adoption. It would be good thing to explore further."

It would be an even better idea to stop concocting batches of embryo human beings like fish spawn. IVF should be banned.

4 posted on 01/02/2008 3:57:43 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (His Dark Materialists)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Exactly. In vitro fertilization is an evil. Period.

And I suspect that the numbers admitted to be the NIH are probably too low by an order of magnitude. I doubt very much that only one out of two embryos is discarded, or anything near that number.


5 posted on 01/02/2008 4:08:15 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: wagglebee

Can you say, “Slippery Slope”.


6 posted on 01/02/2008 4:13:55 PM PST by TheRake (Still Taxed to death in Michigan....it's getting worse.....and worse)
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To: wagglebee

With 6.6 Billion souls on this third rock from the sun and 5.5 billion going to bed hundgry e very night, we DON’T need more births.

Get a a life pro life.

http://www.peterrussell.com/Odds/WorldClock.php


7 posted on 01/02/2008 4:30:22 PM PST by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm X)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER; 8mmMauser; cgk; Coleus; cpforlife.org; narses; bjs1779; Sun; BykrBayb; ...
With 6.6 Billion souls on this third rock from the sun and 5.5 billion going to bed hundgry [sic] e very [sic] night, we DON’T need more births.

Get a a [sic] life pro life.

Why don't you learn how to use spell check and go push your pro-death agenda elsewhere.

8 posted on 01/02/2008 4:39:19 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER

“Get a a life “

SAVE a life; in fact, save as many as you can.


9 posted on 01/02/2008 4:41:48 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: wagglebee

This is why I don’t believe in IVF in the first place.

Goes to show you that God should decide; not doctors and clinics who want to get rich.


10 posted on 01/02/2008 4:44:13 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
Oh, wow! What a blast from the past! This raelly takes me back ... to Paul Ehrlich! to the Population Bomb! to... to 1968!

You are quite mistaken. There are not 5.5 people "going to bed hungry every night." By any measure (calories, macro nutrients, etc.) here is more food per-capita right now than there ever has been in human history. Countries formerly thought of as famine basket-cases (China, India)are exporting food surpluses. Hunger is not caused by babies. It's caused by the political creation of refugees, kleptocracies, failed socialist statism, and war.

Half the people in the world are living in countries facing crisis from birth-deficits causing demographic distortions threatening the viability of health benefit programs, pension plans, and entire governments. Go ahead, catch up a bit on the global situation and then get back to me.

11 posted on 01/02/2008 4:48:39 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (C'est la Vie.)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
With 6.6 Billion souls on this third rock from the sun and 5.5 billion going to bed hundgry e very night, we DON’T need more births. Get a a life pro life.

You were born, right? Or do think you have seniority to live here?

12 posted on 01/02/2008 4:54:42 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
Pro-Life PING

Please FreepMail me if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

13 posted on 01/02/2008 9:54:53 PM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: wagglebee
Pinged from Terri Dailies

8mm


14 posted on 01/03/2008 4:08:13 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: wagglebee

UK IVF Clinics Have Intentionally Killed over One Million Human Embryonic Children

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The “Death Eaters” are hard a work!


15 posted on 01/03/2008 6:32:45 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Sun

four billion short of feeding them all kid.

can/t feed what you bring. be smart don’t bring.


16 posted on 01/03/2008 6:35:13 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm X)
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To: bjs1779

With 6.6 Billion souls on this third rock from the sun and 5.5 billion going to bed hundgry e very night, we DON’T need more births. Get a a life pro life.
You were born, right? Or do think you have seniority to live here?

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Take me out and give my food to 4 billion starving, or perhaps better idea. do not bring anymore until you can make arrangements to feed us and the 4 billion.


17 posted on 01/03/2008 6:41:52 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm X)
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To: wagglebee

With 6.6 Billion souls on this third rock from the sun and 5.5 billion going to bed hundgry [sic] e very [sic] night, we DON’T need more births.
Get a a [sic] life pro life.

Why don’t you learn how to use spell check and go push your pro-death agenda elsewhere.

xxxxxxxxxxxx

to all you puritions, I am handicap with a disease and happy to be here today. Would you like to retract your rudeness?


18 posted on 01/03/2008 6:44:33 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm X)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
to all you puritions, I am handicap with a disease and happy to be here today. Would you like to retract your rudeness?

I apologize for being insensitive to your handicaps; however, this DOES NOT excuse your pro-death stance.

19 posted on 01/03/2008 6:47:28 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER; bjs1779; 8mmMauser; Coleus; narses; cpforlife.org; Mrs. Don-o; Sun; MHGinTN; ...
Take me out and give my food to 4 billion starving, or perhaps better idea. do not bring anymore until you can make arrangements to feed us and the 4 billion.

You are now making statements that can only be described as socialist/leftist. Free Republic is a PRO-LIFE forum, I understand that some here are "pro-choice," but even they do not push leftist agendas like you have on this thread.

20 posted on 01/03/2008 6:53:54 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

to all you puritions, I am handicap with a disease and happy to be here today. Would you like to retract your rudeness?

I apologize for being insensitive to your handicaps; however, this DOES NOT excuse your pro-death stance.

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You have no kindness in your heart for the living who do not get enought food and you want to bring more mouths to the table that cannot be fed and will starve to death.. Sick


21 posted on 01/03/2008 6:55:47 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm X)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
You have no kindness in your heart for the living who do not get enought food and you want to bring more mouths to the table that cannot be fed and will starve to death.. Sick

As I have already stated, this is the same rhetoric that the left has been using to advance socialism for well over a century.

Please find me ANY EVIDENCE of people starving in the United States.

Hunger worldwide NEVER HAS and NEVER WILL have anything to do with food shortages, it has always been the result of failed economic and political policies.

22 posted on 01/03/2008 7:07:46 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER

Link?


23 posted on 01/03/2008 7:10:02 AM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Sun; CHICAGOFARMER
Link?

ANY link that could be provided would be straight from some leftist group. Even most of the DUmmies aren't dumb enough to believe this nonsense.

24 posted on 01/03/2008 7:13:35 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; CHICAGOFARMER

I’m giving 20 to 1 odds that there will be no link. Any takers? :)

CHICAGOFARMER is just making up stuff as s/he goes along.


25 posted on 01/03/2008 7:17:36 AM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Sun; CHICAGOFARMER

I don’t think it would be too difficult to find a link, but it would be from some communist group and Peter Singer or someone of his ilk would be cited as the “expert.”


26 posted on 01/03/2008 7:23:32 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

“but it would be from some communist group and Peter Singer or someone of his ilk would be cited as the “expert.”’

Another reason why s/he won’t post a link, so I’ll stick to my 20 to 1 odds. :)


27 posted on 01/03/2008 7:31:29 AM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Sun; CHICAGOFARMER

It’s rather ironic that CHICAGOFARMER’s FReeper homepage talks a lot about the American Revolution, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The totality of the Founding Fathers’ work, for which many of them risked and pledged “our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor,” was that life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are gifts from God that CANNOT BE JUSTLY TAKEN FROM US. This is all VERY DIFFERENT from the attitude that some don’t deserve to eat and none deserve to be born.


28 posted on 01/03/2008 7:39:56 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; CHICAGOFARMER

“life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are gifts from God that CANNOT BE JUSTLY TAKEN FROM US.”

“LIFE, liberty..”

Guess s/he overlooked LIFE.


29 posted on 01/03/2008 7:43:08 AM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: wagglebee

You have no kindness in your heart for the living who do not get enought food and you want to bring more mouths to the table that cannot be fed and will starve to death.. Sick
As I have already stated, this is the same rhetoric that the left has been using to advance socialism for well over a century.

Please find me ANY EVIDENCE of people starving in the United States.

Hunger worldwide NEVER HAS and NEVER WILL have anything to do with food shortages, it has always been the result of failed economic and political policies.

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You are too far left for me. Why do we have food kitchensin USA. NO HUNGER?


30 posted on 01/03/2008 8:05:09 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm X)
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To: Sun

I’m giving 20 to 1 odds that there will be no link. Any takers? :)

CHICAGOFARMER is just making up stuff as s/he goes along.

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Nope Chicagofarmer is a farmer. We don’t bring more cattle into our farmer than I can feed. If we did we would have starving cattle.


31 posted on 01/03/2008 8:08:23 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm X)
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To: Sun

Link?

xxxxx

Link for what? I listening.


32 posted on 01/03/2008 8:10:13 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm X)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER

Please provide a link to back up your posts 16 & 17.


33 posted on 01/03/2008 8:12:14 AM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
You are too far left for me.

I think you have a serious problem with projection.

Why do we have food kitchensin USA. NO HUNGER?

I never said that we didn't have people in America who need help, but we feed them, they ARE NOT starving.

34 posted on 01/03/2008 8:14:37 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER; Sun
We don’t bring more cattle into our farmer than I can feed. If we did we would have starving cattle.

Then you should realize that for decades the government has been paying farmer to LIMIT production, there are no food shortages in the United States and there never have been.

35 posted on 01/03/2008 8:16:46 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Sun

Please provide a link to back up your posts 16 & 17.

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Be glad to: 300 million in USA.

http://www.peterrussell.com/Odds/WorldClock.php

I was agricultural engineer in 60’s who studied food production shortages in the world. One of my professors wrote a book called “Greening of Africa” Now it appears just a temporary shift in weather pattern.

In 1905 world population was near 2 billion.


36 posted on 01/03/2008 8:17:07 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm X)
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To: wagglebee

We don’t bring more cattle into our farmer than I can feed. If we did we would have starving cattle.
Then you should realize that for decades the government has been paying farmer to LIMIT production, there are no food shortages in the United States and there never have been.

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Not enought food in USA or USA land to feed all the 6.6 billion people in world like we eat. what are you going to give up?


37 posted on 01/03/2008 8:20:57 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm X)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER

We don’t bring more cattle into our farmer than I can feed. If we did we would have starving cattle.

Then you should realize that for decades the government has been paying farmer to LIMIT production, there are no food shortages in the United States and there never have been.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

The real reason US govt keeps cheap food in USA? Do you real want to know?


38 posted on 01/03/2008 8:23:41 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm X)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
Not enought food in USA or USA land to feed all the 6.6 billion people in world like we eat. what are you going to give up?

We're not going to give ANYTHING up, only leftists like you propose making "sacrifices" when there isn't even a problem.

39 posted on 01/03/2008 8:24:39 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER; Sun

The fact that the population is growing worldwide DOES NOT mean that there is a food shortage. Nobody is disputing that there are more people today than there were a century ago, what you are being asked to provide evidence of is a food shortage.


40 posted on 01/03/2008 8:27:16 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: bjs1779; 8mmMauser; Coleus; narses; cpforlife.org; Mrs. Don-o; Sun; MHGinTN

Take me out and give my food to 4 billion starving, or perhaps better idea. do not bring anymore until you can make arrangements to feed us and the 4 billion.

You are now making statements that can only be described as socialist/leftist. Free Republic is a PRO-LIFE forum, I understand that some here are “pro-choice,” but even they do not push leftist agendas like you have on this thread.

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You are prolife. The FR form is an open form with a conservative backing where items like this canbe discussed.

I am a realist, practical engineer mind who realize that people who make decisions based on emotion generally forget the facts of life and make emotional decisions not based on the laws of physics.


41 posted on 01/03/2008 8:30:09 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm X)
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To: wagglebee

Not enought food in USA or USA land to feed all the 6.6 billion people in world like we eat. what are you going to give up?
We’re not going to give ANYTHING up, only leftists like you propose making “sacrifices” when there isn’t even a problem.

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Describe the problem you say can be solved?


42 posted on 01/03/2008 8:31:25 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm X)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
Describe the problem you say can be solved?

That's the point, there is no food shortage problem to solve.

43 posted on 01/03/2008 8:34:26 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

The fact that the population is growing worldwide DOES NOT mean that there is a food shortage. Nobody is disputing that there are more people today than there were a century ago, what you are being asked to provide evidence of is a food shortage.

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The ration of feed vs no feed (hungry) is 18-20 to one.

You can not tell me:

1. how large our annual production of wheat corn oats is?

2. how much (percentage) of this crop is used domistically?

3. how much more land can be put into productionu in USA?

4. how much corn, wheat grain is being shifted to ethanal to power your car? in billions of gallons.

If USA agricultural was in full production could we feed every mouth in the world. And with 90,000 souls added every day for how long?

This is the answer to your arguement?

You need to shift thru facts not emotions.


44 posted on 01/03/2008 8:42:19 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm X)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER; bjs1779; 8mmMauser; Coleus; narses; cpforlife.org; Mrs. Don-o; Sun; MHGinTN; ...

Actually, Jim Robinson has made it completely clear on numerous occasions that Free Republic is PRO-LIFE and not an “open” forum:

“Got news for all, I’m NOT fair and balanced. I’m biased toward God, country, family, liberty and freedom and against liberalism, socialism, anarchism, wackoism, global balonyism and any other form of tyranny. Hope this helps.”

“As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family,”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1103363/posts

“NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LIFE”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1914017/posts


45 posted on 01/03/2008 8:45:09 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER

The answers to your question ONLY matter if there are food shortages in the United States, no such shortages exist. Those are the FACTS.


46 posted on 01/03/2008 8:48:56 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; CHICAGOFARMER; bjs1779; 8mmMauser; Coleus; narses; cpforlife.org; Mrs. Don-o; Sun; ...

The answers to your question ONLY matter if there are food shortages in the United States, no such shortages exist. Those are the FACTS.

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Provide links like I did please.


47 posted on 01/03/2008 8:52:44 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm X)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
The answers to your question ONLY matter if there are food shortages in the United States, no such shortages exist. Those are the FACTS.

Provide links like I did please.

Let me provide you one of the most basic fundamentals of logic, in nearly all cases it is impossible to prove a negative and this is certainly one of those cases.

48 posted on 01/03/2008 8:55:17 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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The answers to your question ONLY matter if there are food shortages in the United States, no such shortages exist. Those are the FACTS.

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Thten your standards only apply in the USA and the rest of the world can go to hell. You are a selfish, greed person to take food from the mouths of souls outside of the USA to feed your over weight lifestyle. Yes?


49 posted on 01/03/2008 8:57:11 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm X)
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To: wagglebee

The answers to your question ONLY matter if there are food shortages in the United States, no such shortages exist. Those are the FACTS.
Provide links like I did please.

Let me provide you one of the most basic fundamentals of logic, in nearly all cases it is impossible to prove a negative and this is certainly one of those cases.

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This is not a negitive. Either YES, we have enough food to feed the world or NO we do not.

What is your proof we have enought food to feed the world souls?


50 posted on 01/03/2008 8:59:33 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm X)
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