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Battle Over Possible Euthanasia of New York Teenager Gets Pro-Life Attention
Life News ^ | 1/1/08 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 01/02/2008 3:57:55 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Didn't faze me, bro. I don't know jack.

The breath of death wafts through the hollowed (not hallowed except in the sense of halloween...) halls of the University of Florida. Yes, the revered pathological pathologist mass serial killer drew his reverence from this brand of brothers.

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Gainesville, FL (LifeNews.com) -- As dozens of pro-life advocates rallied outside, assisted suicide crusader Jack Kevorkian delivered an angry and rambling speech. Although he can only talk about euthanasia in a limited fashion, he advocates the legalization of assisted suicide and blasted President Bush, calling him a tyrant.

Kevorkian spoke to a sold-out crowd that officials estimated as over 4,000 -- not surprising given the attention focused in the media and at the University of Florida campus on the speech.

The student government's speaker's bureau paid $50,000 to host the retired pathologist who was jailed for eight years after killing a disabled patient on national television.

He told the audience that he would be violating the terms of his parole to discuss euthanasia in an expanded sense. His attorney, Mayer Morganroth looked on during the speech.

However, he said that Greece and Rome used assisted suicide and said the ancient cultures are ahead of ours, even though America exists in a modern time.

Kevorkian said he killed about 20 percent of the people who came to him and asked him for his help in taking their lives.

"My aim in helping the patient was not to cause death," he said, according to the Springfield Times. "My aim was to end suffering. It's got to be decriminalized."

"It's got to be decriminalized and the law has to step out of the picture," he said of the grisly practice.

Kevorkian also blasted President Bush and urged people not to vote to send him a message.

"Everyone should refuse to vote," he said. "That'll send the tyrant a message."

After the speech, Bobby Schindler, Terri Schiavo's brother, spoke with AP about Kevorkian's talk. The family's foundation sent petitions from more than 5,000 people to the college asking officials there to cancel the speech.

"My concern is this, you are paying a convicted murderer $50,000," he said. "It is poor judgment that would allow this man to speak."

The Pro-Life Alliance, a UF student group, organized a protest that included both students and pro-life advocates from the local community.

Ben Bur well, a UF sophomore and member of the group, told the Independent Alligator that he was disappointed his student fees paid for the speech.

"He is not a doctor, and I'm embarrassed that our school, which has such a prestigious medical school, has invited someone here who claims to be a doctor but had his license revoked," he said.

Jack Kevorkian Delivers Angry Speech in Florida Amid Pro-Life Protests

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151 posted on 01/16/2008 1:47:26 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
This article comes complete with a video clip of the killer himself if anyone has the stomach to watch.

What a country!! Where else could people let a convicted serial killer of world class free to make money from his deeds and blab it all with impunity?

Amazingly, this friendly cuddly serial killer can switch to rage in an instant. Who could have guessed? Knowing what we do about how Terri was killed, we can see the flaws of his logic with the prism not used by the poor benighted students taking in his words with the eagerness only a simple fool can muster.

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But Kevorkian's seemingly low-key style makes his transformation into a furious and agitated promoter of physician-assisted suicide all the more stunning. And the transformation doesn't take long.

After a few pleasantries, Kevorkian grows visibly angry discussing the Supreme Court's decision to not take the case that sent him to prison for second-degree murder.

~Snip~

Kevorkian's frustration with the medical establishment is still visceral. That emotion comes through as he discusses Florida's high-profile "right-to-die" case, in which Terri Schiavo was pulled from a feeding tube against the wishes of some of her family. Kevorkian says he agrees in principal with ending Schiavo's life, because that was her expressed wish made to her husband. But the outcome of the Schiavo case highlights the kind of cruelty Kevorkian says could be avoided under legalized euthanasia.

"They just let her die without feeding and water," he said. "Is that humane? If it is then the Nazis did the right thing, didn't they, in the concentration camps. Huh? You don't want to talk about that, do you."

The Schiavo case has left some Florida residents' emotions raw about Kevorkian. Her brother, Bobby Schindler, is among those who has opposed Kevorkian's appearance tonight.

"Why do people oppose me? They don't know what I'm gonna talk about," he said. "If they protest me talking about my rights, they're really crazy."

Angry Kevorkian Denounces Court

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152 posted on 01/16/2008 2:04:49 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Prov3456

It was supposed to be a routine, 90-minute procedure called a ventriculostomy. The surgeon would bore a hole in the brain to drain cerebral fluid into a cavity. This would alleviate the potentially destructive pressure of what’s commonly known as water on the brain.

http://tinyurl.com/2dvpfd


153 posted on 01/16/2008 2:09:01 AM PST by kcvl
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To: All
How some think...

..................I live in the neighborhood I was writing about: the Williamsburg neighborhood of Brooklyn, New York. I was fascinated with all the changes that were going on in the neighborhood. In Williamsburg [prices for rent have] gone through the roof. There’s a lot of gentrification there. So I think that was really ripe material. And the Terry Schiavo case was going on….I was kind of intrigued about why someone would let a loved one stay alive for so long and how the media was portraying it.....

Get Out Wednesday: Jami Attenberg Reading at Elliott Bay

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154 posted on 01/16/2008 2:11:36 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Stirring story of an abortion in a thread by wagglebee...

VANCOUVER, January 15, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - It's been more than thirty years, but social worker Vicky Green still vividly remembers her abortion experience with Dr. Henry Morgentaler, and she tells part of her story in the short film '1st Degree Morgentaler' by John S.C. Hetherington............

Abortionist Morgentaler Patient: "I Told Him I Don't Want to Do This to My baby."

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155 posted on 01/16/2008 2:16:28 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the greatest killer of all, me, Hillary, or that B.O.?

Thread by wagglebee.

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- The Hillary Clinton campaign wasted little time in responding to a conference call Barack Obama's campaign held with the media on Monday. Just minutes after Obama's campaign finish flashing his pro-abortion credentials, the Clinton campaign took to the phones to refute the information and promote her pro-abortion views..........

Hillary Clinton Campaign Responds to Barack Obama's Pro-Abortion Claims

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156 posted on 01/16/2008 2:21:54 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
How the states rank on life issues...

Thread by wagglebee.

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Chicago, IL (LifeNews.com) -- A leading national pro-life group that works with state legislators to pass pro-life laws has released a new national ranking of states based on the laws they've approved related to abortion and bioethics topics. Americans United for Life's fifth annual ranking of the most and least pro-life state shows Michigan in the lead for the third time.

After Michigan, Louisiana, Pennsylvania, Texas, and Kansas topped the list. South Dakota, Mississippi, Arkansas, Oklahoma and Virginia rounded out the top ten.

"These states have made great strides in protecting women and their children from the negative consequences of abortion," Denise Burke, an AUL attorney, told LifeNews.com Tuesday.

On the bottom end of the scale, Oregon, which has the only law legalizing assisted suicide, placed last with California, Connecticut, New Jersey, Vermont and Hawaii finishing in the bottom.

Not surprisingly, euthanasia advocates have pressed for laws allowing assisted suicides in most of those states...........

Pro-Life Organization Ranks States on Passing Good Abortion, Bioethics Laws

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157 posted on 01/16/2008 2:27:53 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Thread by wagglebee on last night's killer performance where Dr. Death gave his FU talk...

Gainesville, FL(LifeNews.com) -- Jack Kevorkian is still set to speak tonight at the University of Florida and his speech -- which the university will pay him $50,000 to give -- has drawn considerable controversy. Despite objections from thousands of people and expected protests at the event, local officials say they think it will be safe.....

Jack Kevorkian Speech Still Set for Tuesday Night at University of Florida

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158 posted on 01/16/2008 2:32:16 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; pissant; narses
I extracted this from a thread by pissant. Thanks, narses, for the ping.

From the Duncan Hunter archives,

Representative Duncan Hunter, Republican of California, argued, "The unborn children who are going to be subjected to this very, very radical act through this particular provision are those children who are going to be aborted in military hospitals around the world, and I think it is a tragedy that this Department of Defense is going to be used as a Department of Aggression against unborn children."

FUROR ON ABORTION ENDING IN SILENCE (Duncan Hunter archives 1992)

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159 posted on 01/16/2008 2:37:42 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

Pro-life BUMP


160 posted on 01/16/2008 12:32:37 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: 8mmMauser

Go, Bobby.


161 posted on 01/16/2008 2:53:51 PM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Just remember this... The ONLY GOP presidential candidate who met with Bobby Schindler was Mitt Romney. (are the other so called pro-lifers chicken?)


162 posted on 01/16/2008 3:00:09 PM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Thank God Judge Greer isn’t near Javona. She’d be gone as soon as the malpractice money spoils went to the death cult attorneys and the aclu.


163 posted on 01/16/2008 3:02:19 PM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: 8mmMauser
Even the deceased, euthanasia enthusiast Dr. CRANFORD's guidelines are that Javona does not fit the criteria to end her life.

It is rushed per the departed Cranford's standards.

164 posted on 01/16/2008 3:05:51 PM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: Lesforlife; All; wagglebee; Sun; BykrBayb
Give Javona some AMBIEN. It wakes people up but that would be too easy...better to drag her through the courts to dehumanize her.

Javona's Mom, tell them to give her Ambien. Thanks, mom.

165 posted on 01/16/2008 3:18:11 PM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Mike Huckabee is not putting on the conception to natural death spin. That’s not what he’s been saying and therefore, this is another reason for me to say “no” to Huck. It’s a little late for him to decide that euthanasia is wrong. It’s so obvious Huck is being handled and handled. He has that Ed guy who is a troublemaker. What’s Ed’s name, bald guy, glasses?


166 posted on 01/16/2008 3:22:05 PM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: 8mmMauser

TYPO CORRECTION: Mike Huckabee is NOW putting on the conception to natural death spin. Flip flop. No thanks. He lost me in the first debate. No can do.


167 posted on 01/16/2008 3:23:27 PM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: floriduh voter

Ed guy as I recall, a boxer, and a pragmatist, came on to the Reagan gang with all the right words and was generally accepted by true idealists but he was not one himself. His surface colors proved to be not spin proof after a few wash cycles and faded although his mentor, Lyn Nofziger, always remained pure. A few others fell in to this category. Power lust works better than Tide to bring out the true colors. Ed guy is Rollins.


168 posted on 01/17/2008 3:08:51 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Hi Jack. Or maybe we don't know Jack...

Is he trying to sound like a redeemable mass murderer who also has the good qualities of supporting the Second Amendment or is he trying to tie his evil killings onto something good to bring himself up, or to bring us down?

That rings a cracked bell, in his spaced out idea of who we are. Who of us Second Amendment supporters packs an UZI as a gun toter in public? I know I don't. I contend you can't deal with the Devil or his ambassador and come out unscathed. His adoring fans got themselves dirty and just don't know it yet.

Actually, I misjudged earlier, thinking the JBT gang would be out in force, but sounds like this crowd posed little threat to his theses. Scary....

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GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- Jack Kevorkian was paid $50,000 to speak at the University of Florida on Tuesday, telling students that he did nothing wrong and that people should be allowed to carry Uzis down the streets.

Kevorkian, who says he assisted in at least 130 deaths, said he didn't cause death, but ended suffering

"I am a physician. I knew how to do it. ... I did it humanely," Kevorkian told 4,867 students and faculty.

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He also urged students to take advantage to their right to bear arms, enshrined in the Second Amendment to the Constitution.

"You should be able to carry an Uzi down the street if you aren't threatening someone," he said.

Kevorkian called the U.S. Supreme Court "a bunch of liars and negligent in their duties."

The university received almost 2,000 e-mails protesting the Kevorkian speech, although most came from out-of-state and were form letters.

The Terry Schindler Schiavo Foundation also submitted a petition with more than 5,000 signatures asking the university to cancel the speech. The foundation was established after the death of Terry Schiavo, a Florida woman who died in 2005 after being removed from a feeding tube in a high-profile battle between the woman's husband and her parents and siblings.

Kevorkian defends himself -- and gets paid $50,000... He speaks at Fla. university about politics and Uzis

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169 posted on 01/17/2008 3:36:13 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Hi Jack. Or maybe we don't know Jack...

Is he trying to sound like a redeemable mass murderer who also has the good qualities of supporting the Second Amendment or is he trying to tie his evil killings onto something good to bring himself up, or to bring us down?

That rings a cracked bell, in his spaced out idea of who we are. Who of us Second Amendment supporters packs an UZI as a gun toter in public? I know I don't. I contend you can't deal with the Devil or his ambassador and come out unscathed. His adoring fans got themselves dirty and just don't know it yet.

Actually, I misjudged earlier, thinking the JBT gang would be out in force, but sounds like this crowd posed little threat to his theses. Scary....

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GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- Jack Kevorkian was paid $50,000 to speak at the University of Florida on Tuesday, telling students that he did nothing wrong and that people should be allowed to carry Uzis down the streets.

Kevorkian, who says he assisted in at least 130 deaths, said he didn't cause death, but ended suffering

"I am a physician. I knew how to do it. ... I did it humanely," Kevorkian told 4,867 students and faculty.

~Snip~

He also urged students to take advantage to their right to bear arms, enshrined in the Second Amendment to the Constitution.

"You should be able to carry an Uzi down the street if you aren't threatening someone," he said.

Kevorkian called the U.S. Supreme Court "a bunch of liars and negligent in their duties."

The university received almost 2,000 e-mails protesting the Kevorkian speech, although most came from out-of-state and were form letters.

The Terry Schindler Schiavo Foundation also submitted a petition with more than 5,000 signatures asking the university to cancel the speech. The foundation was established after the death of Terry Schiavo, a Florida woman who died in 2005 after being removed from a feeding tube in a high-profile battle between the woman's husband and her parents and siblings.

Kevorkian defends himself -- and gets paid $50,000... He speaks at Fla. university about politics and Uzis

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170 posted on 01/17/2008 3:37:12 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Sorreee...

Second Amendment issues just bring out the reflexive double tap.

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171 posted on 01/17/2008 3:39:23 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Here is a reading challenge for libertarians and librarians.

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Kinsley seems to understand the moral vision of libertarianism — that it isn't right to steal from someone to benefit someone else, or to force someone to do or not do something that isn't harming someone else's life or property. But then he tries to use his own preferences to decide what rights of personal autonomy are really "serious." The Terri Schiavo Terri Schiavo case was not the apotheosis of libertarianism — to begin with, it was too sullied with complicated questions of whose autonomy was being respected. More than the "right to die," libertarians defend the right to live the life of your choice.....................

Real libertarianism... Reason magazineÂ’s Brian Doherty responds to Michael Kinsley.

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172 posted on 01/17/2008 3:52:24 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Cicero

Correction for you: parents were never married.


173 posted on 01/17/2008 4:00:04 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit ((Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding))
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To: All
This just in from, uhhhh, Guyana...

We have the blind reading the blind.

America's founders understood the dangers of religious factions well enough for them to insist that the church and state be kept apart. In recent times the line between the two has become increasingly blurred, often with terrible results (abstinence education programmes, the federal government's refusal to fund groups that provide family planning advice, bans on stem-cell research, the political opera surrounding Terry Schiavo and so on, almost ad nauseam). Depending on their choice of candidate -particularly within the GOP- the upcoming elections will offer the country a chance to restore some of the system's lost balance.

What is at stake is not really faith so much as the separation of the executive's functions from its own exclusive religious beliefs, the relationship between the president's faith and matters of public policy. America has always been a devoutly religious nation, only recently has it started to become blindly so.........

The party faithful

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174 posted on 01/17/2008 4:06:21 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
The Netherlands becomes The Neverlands of dark dreams as in this thread by wagglebee.

NETHERLANDS, January 16, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Dutch paediatric neurosurgeon Rob de Jong, in collaboration with peers from several other countries, has expressed his concern at the practice in the Netherlands of carrying out euthanasia on some babies born with spina bifida in an article in the medical journal Child's Nervous System.

According to a report by Radio Netherlands Worldwide, the lives of a small number of babies are terminated each year by doctors who, together with the parents, believe the infant is experiencing unbearable suffering and will continue to suffer in this way in the future...........

Paediatric Neurosurgeons Criticize Dutch Practice of Euthanasia on Babies With Spina Bifida

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175 posted on 01/17/2008 4:18:59 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Sleazy Veazey, in a thread by wagglebee...

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Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- With the thirty-fifth anniversary of the infamous Roe v. Wade Supreme Court case coming next week, the head of a pro-abortion group for religious groups and leaders is bemoaning the fact that not enough clergy are promoting abortion.

However, the organization will be hard-pressed to find converts from among the Catholic and Protestant denominations that strongly oppose abortion.

Reverend Carlton Veazey, the head of the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice, says he's worried that, on this anniversary of Roe, "our country is on the brink of abandoning its commitment that abortion will be" available.

Veazey, a pastor of a Baptist church in Washington, D.C., is worried that the Supreme Court's upholding the national ban on partial-birth abortions and state personhood initiatives and abortion bans are "sounding the death knell for the landmark constitutional decision."...........

Pro-Abortion Religious Leader Bemoans Lack of Clergy Backing Roe v. Wade

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176 posted on 01/17/2008 4:24:47 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

I assume that Dr. Death’s homicide “machine” was confiscated by prosecutors prior to his conviction, now it sounds as if he’s going to just start shooting his victims with an Uzi rather than go to the trouble and expense of building a new machine.


177 posted on 01/17/2008 5:19:19 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: 8mmMauser

Yes, Ed Rollins may be a double agent for Huckabee. It seems to me that Huck is going wild. Maybe Rollins is giving Huck bad advice to sink his campaign.


178 posted on 01/17/2008 8:00:32 PM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: wagglebee; 8mmMauser
FTI: Ann Coulter picks Mitt and why.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59734

179 posted on 01/17/2008 8:11:37 PM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Dr. Jack exposed himself to a large crowd. Well, it was only his mind exposed but that was obscene enough. What a surprise he railed against Catholics, well maybe not. His gods and their guidance are opposite God of the Christians and Jews.

Yet from there, Kevorkian digressed into an attack on Catholic doctors, the Hippocratic oath and religion. Kevorkian said that the Hippocratic oath "wasn't discussed in medical school, and our class never took the oath. It isn't a medical oath; you pledge allegiance to all the gods and goddess, the pagan gods and goddesses of Greeks - what sense is that today?" He added that the Hippocratic oath was the byproduct of a "secret, small Pythagorean sect" that was the only group to oppose the ancient tradition of a physician helping a terminally ill patient end his life.

"The only oath we have, the only ethics we have in medicine are religious ethics" and "religion is nothing more than a made-up mythology [and] the basis of religion is fear."

"A doctor limited by dogma isn't a real physician; he should have been a priest," Kevorkian said. "They think life's sacred... I don't feel sacred, frankly. I've got a life and I don't feel sacred."

Jack Kevorkian Speaks Out Against Catholic Doctors, Religion And Oregon's Suicide Law

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180 posted on 01/18/2008 3:41:04 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Prov3456

In America today, abortions are routine medical procedures, and there are many more problems and “complications” than those who support legalized abortion will admit. I wonder if her coma came while she was having an abortion.

....why an abortion? Thats not a routine medical procedure. Why not a tonsilectomy or having adenoids removed? Those are routine procedures.


181 posted on 01/18/2008 3:45:20 AM PST by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!!!)
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To: wagglebee

I hope there is as much concern for Javona as there was for Terri. We need to be praying for her.


182 posted on 01/18/2008 3:48:13 AM PST by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!!!)
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To: brwnsuga

183 posted on 01/18/2008 3:53:39 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
This is the best support of my thesis I have found so far. Dr. Death uses the leftist concept of projection to a profound degree. This mass murderer is rescued from himself by a benevolent, albeit weak system which winds up rewarding him after his energetic success in slaughtering people. Then this model of Hitlerian perfection projects to us that he is the victim and we are the Nazis. Haters call people they hate haters.

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America is "no different than Nazi Germany; they were aggressive too, [but] they were more honest about it. See, unfortunately for the Nazis, there was another power that could counteract them, the United States. Who can counteract us? America is like a bull in a china shop. There is no way to fight them. They can do what they want, lie, cheat and steal - and they do."

"You think Iraq is a war? It's not a war, it's a modified genocide. You could solve the whole problem in the Middle East with one act; withdraw entirely everything from the Middle East... Nobody loves armed missionaries. Every soldier we have around the world is an armed missionary. And you praise him? No you don't praise him, damn him."

"You have a renegade, rogue, criminalistic country. Why are you hated in the rest of the world? Why? Because they know what you are, but you don't know, because you're living well," Kevorkian said.

"We're a fascist country you know... I'm not proud to be an American; I'm not proud to be a genocidal aggressor. America is wrong," Kevorkian declared. "We are a criminal country... we have a criminal group in Washington, [a] bunch of criminal dictators."............

"Dr. Death" Says America "No Different Than Nazi Germany" Committing "Modified Genocide" In Iraq

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184 posted on 01/18/2008 3:54:43 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: brwnsuga

We are keeping a daily watch of any and all news updates on Javona on this thread and hopefully have aroused some good people to action. Terri’s family, the Schindler’s have taken notice already.


185 posted on 01/18/2008 3:58:39 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
More echoes from Jack the Dripper's tirades...

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The Terri Schindler Schiavo Foundation presented the institution with a petition containing 5,000 signatures asking it to rescind its invitation to Dr. Kevorkian. The foundation was formed after Florida authorities allowed the woman, whose name it bears, to die of starvation and thirst at the behest of her husband, Michael Schiavo.

In response, UF President J. Bernard Machen wrote to the woman's brother, Bobby Schindler, who heads the foundation, "As an institution of higher education, we value the free expression of ideas and the educational opportunities that arise from such communication."

The UF Pro-Life Alliance, a student-led organization that helps women who have unexpectedly become pregnant, also protested the university's decision to allow Dr. Kevorkian to speak.

"Our group opposes this speech because the university is paying an exorbitant amount of money to a man who has been convicted of murder," said group leader Katherine Schinn. "Another concern is to promote assisted suicide in general."....................................

Suicide Doc Raps Bush, Judiciary In University Of Florida Appearance

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186 posted on 01/18/2008 4:04:36 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
I excerpted this article which ties together Terri's plight with the raving topics of Jack the Dripper...

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Walk Me to Midnight by Jane St. Clair is a new pro-life novel from Capstone Fiction. It is a chilling medical thriller guaranteed to keep you up reading all nightlong until you reach the horrifying conclusion. Available January 1, 2008 from Amazon and Barnes and Noble.

Q. How did you come to write Walk Me to Midnight?

First, I was with my mother, sister and father during their long deaths by cancer. I was with them when they died. They were very vulnerable, but the hospice nurses knew what to do and how to help us. That's why I dedicated Walk Me to Midnight to hospice nurses.

Second, I was doing a lot of crime writing and became very interested in forensic science. I wrote two Law and Order television scripts and one CSI that placed high in national contests. I wanted to do a pro-life thriller.

Third, I believe that the assisted suicide movement is misdirected. I want to help the hospice movement.

Q.Do you think a terminally ill person should have the right to commit suicide?

Anyone can commit suicide at any time so getting assisted suicide laws passed is not about anyone's personal right to do anything. Committing suicide may be against the law, but after you're dead, you can't be prosecuted or punished.

People who want to commit suicide can do it themselves. The idea that they are so sick that they can't fire a gun or take some drugs is just untrue. Usually if you have a terminal illness, you know how long you left to live. You have ample time to commit suicide. If you are too sick to swallow, you don't have that long to live anyway.

~Snip~

Q. Why are you against laws that allow doctors to prescribe lethal doses to terminally ill people?

An old saying in law is that bad cases make bad law. When a situation is too complex, there is no way to write a good law that covers every situation. There are too many variables. Assisted suicide is like that. Do you treat a 21-year-old the same as a 95-year-old? How do you determine competence in someone all drugged up? How do you determine Terri Schiavo's desires when she left no written instructions?

Also, the Netherlands experience teaches us that even if you have two doctors to supervise each patient's "suicide," there is plenty of room for corruption. Insurance companies and often the person's relatives have personal stakes in having that person die quickly. It saves them money, allows them to inherit quicker, or allows them relief from the burden of the person's care. Often these are unconscious motives. Studies have shown that when there are assisted suicide laws, dying people feel obligated to end their lives prematurely. When given a choice, most people want to live as long as possible.........................

An Interview with the author of Walk Me to Midnight

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187 posted on 01/18/2008 4:12:16 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
From HLI, ten challenges are offered to us pro life warriors...

Thread by wagglebee.

As we gear up for next Tuesday's March for Life in Washington DC, I offer this list of challenges to the pro-life movement in America. If we really wish to beat the abortion culture we have to mature as a movement. Thirty-five years of the same strategies and ideas have not gained us the victory we seek because the fight against the most pervasive spiritual evil that has ever entered the world can only be won on God's terms. The pro-life movement has invested more in political and cultural change than in spiritual change. Let us not be afraid to fight Goliath's weapons of mass destruction with the faith of David who came against the giant "in the name of the Lord of Hosts." (1 Sam 17:45)...............

HLI Leader Fr. Euteneuer Issues Ten Challenges for the Pro-Life Movement in 2008

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188 posted on 01/18/2008 4:31:05 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Used parts industry in the UK...

Thread by wagglebee.

LONDON, January 17, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The British government's plans to consider a presumed consent scheme for organ donations was put on the back burner this week as a government appointed taskforce recommended alternative methods to increase organ donations by 50 per cent. But the wording of the recommendations has alarmed pro-life advocates who warn they may increase threats to the lives of vulnerable patients.

Elisabeth Buggins, chair of the task force, wrote, "The UK has one of the worst records for organ donation in Western Europe. The Taskforce was, however, greatly encouraged by the evidence it considered from across the world and believes that a 50% increase in organ donation is possible and achievable in the UK within five years. We are convinced that this goal will only be realised if our recommendations are considered and acted on as a whole."

But the report's wording echoes that of previous legislation that has created a significant threat to patients. In its report published yesterday by the Department of Heath, the taskforce says that a patient becomes a potential donor "when a decision has been taken - in the best interests of the patient - that further active treatment is no longer appropriate and should be withdrawn."...........

Organ Donation Report Suspends Presumed Consent Scheme but Pro-Life Advocates Warn of Danger

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189 posted on 01/18/2008 4:36:40 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Oh Canada...

Thread by wagglebee.

HAMILTON, Ontario, January 17, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The city of Hamilton Ontario has decided to pull a series of pro-life advertisements from its bus-shelters, saying that they were "offensive" and too "controversial.".........

Canadian City Pulls Pro-Life Bus Shelter Ads Citing "Offensiveness"

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190 posted on 01/18/2008 4:40:39 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; SErtelt; wagglebee
Numbers on abortion decline in a thread by SErtelt. Thanks, wagglebee, for the ping.

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A new report by an organization affiliated with Planned Parenthood finds that the number of abortions nationwide have fallen to their lowest point in 30 years and have declined 25 percent since 1990. Pro-life groups point to laws limiting abortions, the effectiveness of pregnancy centers and abstinence education as the reason why............

Abortion Numbers Reach Lowest Level in 30 Years, 25% Decline Since 1990

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191 posted on 01/18/2008 4:45:38 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Simple as ABC...

Thread by wagglebee on another dumb statement.

New York, NY (LifeNews.com) -- ABC News is drawing criticism for promoting a controversial author with a refuted claim that legalized abortion has helped reduce the level of crime in the United States. "Freakonomics" co-author Stephen Dubner appeared on Thursday's "Good Morning America" program even though other researchers have disproved his contention.

During the interview, Dubner repeated the abortion-crime claims.

"What happened when Roe V. Wade was handed down was that unwanted children are basically at a much greater risk for being born into the circumstances where they're more likely to lead a criminal life," he said. "Not every unwanted child by a long stretch, but typically."...........

ABC News Criticized for Promoting Author Who Says Abortion Reduces Crime

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192 posted on 01/18/2008 4:51:08 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Upcoming Washington DC event in a thread by wagglebee.

WASHINGTON, Jan. 17, /Christian Newswire/ -- Priests for Life and Anglicans for Life will again sponsor a major gathering of the Silent No More Awareness Campaign in Washington DC this Tuesday, January 22. Men and women who have lost children to abortion will gather in front of the Supreme Court at 4:00 PM and begin sharing publicly their testimonies of pain and healing. Fifty-seven people are scheduled to speak...............

Women Set to Proclaim: I Regret My Abortion

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193 posted on 01/18/2008 4:56:22 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: brwnsuga; 8mmMauser
I hope there is as much concern for Javona as there was for Terri. We need to be praying for her.

We are certainly praying for her and there are lots of people trying to make people aware of her situation. Unfortunately, there are issues with Javona's parents and their disagreement over what should be done.

194 posted on 01/18/2008 7:43:24 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: 8mmMauser

I spend a lot of time yesterday pondering Dr. Death’s Uzi remark and it finally dawned on me what his angle was.

He knows that the leftists are totally on board with the culture of death’s agenda and they know that he really won’t interfere with gun grabbing.

However, many libertarians are “on the fence” on the culture of death, but when they hear that Dr. Death is also pro-gun, they might decide to give him their support. This was a ploy to garner support from them for his gruesome agenda.


195 posted on 01/18/2008 7:48:45 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: 8mmMauser
Sorry, but all your links in this last thread are not taking me where you want with the exception of post 187.
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196 posted on 01/18/2008 7:57:02 AM PST by lula ( Islam IS the Anti-Christ)
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To: lula; Admin Moderator

Thank you, lula, for pointing this out. Admin Moderator, I am not sure what happened, myself, but my Googled links keep vanishing. The url is copied but when I test now before posting, they are curtailed and do not reach the links. It only happened this morning and has not happened like this before. I was doing the same things today as I have before.

I also noticed interestingly several articles which appeared on Google News this morning about Dr. Kevorkian, the ones I linked, have vanished from Google News.

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197 posted on 01/18/2008 12:04:11 PM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Though we may forget or have other priorities, the left doesn't change, cannot shake the legacy of Terri, even to the point of taking on Rudy.

RUDY GIULIANI: You seek the nomination of a party which believes government should control women’s reproductive choices, gays’ marriage rights, individuals’ choices to save their own lives by using medicinal marijuana while undergoing chemotherapy, people’s right to take their own lives rather than undergoing a painful and protracted death, not to mention Terri Schiavo’s family medical crisis, and was so obsessed with Bill Clinton’s personal sex life that they impeached him. And yet when there are questions raised about your very public extramarital affairs, your divorces, your marriage to your cousin and your children who aren’t speaking to you and are supporting other candidates, you responded by saying "Leave my family alone". Yeah, you actually said that. My question is whether you’d care to apologize to the rest of the country for your party’s relentless interventions into the private lives of our families? Or are you satisfied instead to be the hypocrite of the millennium?

So You Wanna Be My President, Huh? Answer Me This!

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198 posted on 01/19/2008 3:18:59 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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This liberal by following her own logic sets for herself a god who would favor the killing of innocents. But sometimes logic is a tough commodity to find in those who substitute emotion for reason even if capable of quoting selected Bible verses.

They are laws created by people for people. Once you start ascribing a law to God, the next question must be “whose god?” Is it a fundamentalist god who would let Terry Schiavo go on living despite the pleas of her husband and evidence that she is already deceased? Or the God who would suggest that although we should not hasten death, we should neither prolong it?............

Mike Huckabee, God and the Constitution

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199 posted on 01/19/2008 3:26:47 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Keep it up, Fred.

Speaking of Huckabee, Fred Thompson gets it right on nailing Huck on his words. They spill out from a Democrat playbook and Fred rings clear. Thread by wagglebee.

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"Now I know Governor Huckabee was talking about amending the Constitution, but I don't think he understood that he was using code words that support judicial activism," Thompson explained.

"He does not appear to understand that reliance on the notion that the Constitution is a living, breathing document is precisely the kind of wrong-headed thinking about the Constitution that gave us Roe v. Wade, which legalized abortion across our nation," Thompson added.

"I do not believe the Constitution is a living, breathing document. I am committed to appointing strict constructionist judges to the bench if I am elected President, strict constructionists who believe the Constitution has a fixed meaning that can be applied to cases that come before the courts today," Thompson said.

Fred Thompson Blasts Mike Huckabee on Abortion, Constitution Comments

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200 posted on 01/19/2008 3:38:45 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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