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Eager to Vote But Stuck in Citizenship Process
The Los Angeles Times ^ | January 2, 2008 | Anna Gorman

Posted on 01/02/2008 4:02:29 PM PST by truthkeeper

Julia Moreno has been following the presidential campaign and studying the issues. She has even chosen her favorite candidate: "La Señora Clinton."

Moreno, a legal immigrant from Guatemala who came to Los Angeles more than 30 years ago, applied for citizenship this summer so she would be able to vote -- starting with the 2008 presidential election.

But U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services announced recently that green card holders who applied after June 1 could have to wait 16 to 18 months for their applications to be processed. For Moreno, that means she might be unable to cast her ballot for president.

"It's terrible," said Moreno, 62. "It's a long wait. . . .I want to vote. Mrs. Clinton needs my vote. Maybe my vote will put her in the White House."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: naturalization
Morales said he watched the presidential debates on Univision and wants his vote to speak for other Latinos, especially undocumented immigrants who need better access to benefits, jobs and housing...

"It saddened me," he said. "We thought we would be able to participate in the election to elect a president who would conform to our ideology."


1 posted on 01/02/2008 4:02:30 PM PST by truthkeeper
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To: truthkeeper

*sigh* Words fail me.


2 posted on 01/02/2008 4:03:31 PM PST by null and void (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth. - M203M4)
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To: null and void

Me too...and I’m rarely speechless.


3 posted on 01/02/2008 4:04:32 PM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: truthkeeper

Maybe we can just let all of the non-citizens vote just this once or change the election to 2009, so they can become citizens. The founders never intended to leave out thsese poor folks when they came up with that evil constitution. They love them some Hillary!


4 posted on 01/02/2008 4:04:38 PM PST by purpleraine
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To: truthkeeper

I really wanted to vote for Goldwater in ‘64, but alas! too young.


5 posted on 01/02/2008 4:06:35 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: truthkeeper
Que lastima.

</sarc>

6 posted on 01/02/2008 4:08:13 PM PST by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: truthkeeper

sounds like something my wife would say about me....


7 posted on 01/02/2008 4:10:07 PM PST by bpjam (Harry Reid doesn't even have 32% of my approval)
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To: RightWhale
I really wanted to vote for Goldwater in ‘64, but alas! too young.

Well, you should demand a do-over!

8 posted on 01/02/2008 4:11:48 PM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: truthkeeper
She has even chosen her favorite candidate: "La Señora Clinton."

As if there was ever any question how 20-30 million illegals would vote........

What is still startling is the total silence, even within the GOP, about the permanent majority the rats would achieve.............

9 posted on 01/02/2008 4:12:42 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: truthkeeper

Vote Hillary then. As a US citizen. STFU! Go back to Mexico and vote buddy. We are sick to death of you and your socialist ilk sucking like leeches off US taxpayers.


10 posted on 01/02/2008 4:12:52 PM PST by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: truthkeeper
Gee, the twit came here 30 years ago, apparently cannot speak English, and only now has decided to apply for citizenship...only so he can vote for the most un-American candidate he can find.

We ought to send anyone and everyone back who has not applied for citizenship in 7 years and not become a citizen in 10 years. We should not continue to issue green cards to people who want the benefits of being here without becoming citizens.

11 posted on 01/02/2008 4:12:58 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: truthkeeper

Perhaps the UN can help...this is just wrong on so many levels and a tragedy of biblical proportions. /s


12 posted on 01/02/2008 4:13:15 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: truthkeeper
A friend of mine has a lovely Hispanic wife who is a productive conservative. She applied for citizenship shortly after 9-11. Her citizenship papers weren't finalized until just after the 2004 election. She was looking forward to vote on behalf of legal immigrants who earn their citizenship, not those who come here demanding entitlements.
13 posted on 01/02/2008 4:13:15 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: truthkeeper

Moreno, a legal immigrant from Guatemala who came to Los Angeles more than 30 years ago...

I guess now that he decided it was time, the government is supposed to drop everything to make sure he can become a citizen in time to vote.
Glad he is legal but his undocumented buddies do NOT need any better access to benefits, jobs or housing. They already have it all. What more can we give them? oh never mind...I am sure they have a list.


14 posted on 01/02/2008 4:13:26 PM PST by donnab (saving liberal brains...one moron at a time.)
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To: truthkeeper
We thought we would be able to participate in the election to elect a president who would conform to our ideology

Theft is an ideology?

15 posted on 01/02/2008 4:16:10 PM PST by Regulator (I thought it was a sin)
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To: truthkeeper
For Moreno, that means she might be unable to cast her ballot for president.

How quaint. C'mon Mo, get real! Just show up at the polling place and vote as many times as you want. This is Deep Blue L.A. not Little Town USA.

16 posted on 01/02/2008 4:16:51 PM PST by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Regulator
Theft is an ideology?

Yes. It's called Socialism.

17 posted on 01/02/2008 4:23:17 PM PST by SolidWood (Al Gore: "I have never heard of this, but I think it is a very good idea,")
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To: truthkeeper

imagine all the 17 year olds that will turn 18 on wednesday...


18 posted on 01/02/2008 4:26:31 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: truthkeeper

I wish they could see the super-microscopic violin I’m playing for them.


19 posted on 01/02/2008 4:31:03 PM PST by swatbuznik
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To: swatbuznik

Maybe someone will post the graphic...it’s one of my favorites.


20 posted on 01/02/2008 4:33:02 PM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: truthkeeper

21 posted on 01/02/2008 4:36:47 PM PST by Historix
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To: truthkeeper
It is past time that we enforce the language requirement on citizenship tests.
We also need to weed out people who desire to change our polity. These are sedition aliens participating in an illegal conspiracy to overthrow the Republic.
22 posted on 01/02/2008 4:38:49 PM PST by rmlew (Felix sit novus annus)
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To: truthkeeper

I call BS, her Visa should have expired 20 some odd years ago.

Illegal, Visa Overstay.


23 posted on 01/02/2008 5:43:17 PM PST by Otaku6
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To: Otaku6

If you are an LPR (Legal permanent resident), you don’t have a visa that “expires”. Note the words LEGAL and PERMANENT.


24 posted on 01/02/2008 6:03:56 PM PST by BohDaThone
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To: truthkeeper

It should read: “Eager to Vote Herself Other People’s Hard Earned Money But Too Lazy to Follow the Process”

What a repulsive leech, the inevitable result of socialism and open borders.


25 posted on 01/02/2008 6:10:23 PM PST by mike-zed
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To: BohDaThone

I stand Corrected.


26 posted on 01/02/2008 6:48:55 PM PST by Otaku6
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To: truthkeeper

Sorry about your luck...


27 posted on 01/02/2008 6:49:48 PM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: Owl_Eagle
"For Moreno, that means she might be unable to cast her ballot for president."

Absurd. She'll be able to vote several times for Hillary.

28 posted on 01/02/2008 7:45:34 PM PST by boop (Democracy is the theory that the people get the government they deserve, good and hard.)
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To: truthkeeper
Moreno, a legal immigrant from Guatemala who came to Los Angeles more than 30 years ago

I am not going to assume that the above means the same as...

Moreno, an immigrant from Guatemala who legally came to Los Angeles more than 30 years ago

29 posted on 01/02/2008 7:53:35 PM PST by Ezekiel
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To: truthkeeper
Eager to Vote But Stuck in Citizenship Process
(snip) But U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services announced
recently that green card holders who applied after June 1 could have
to wait 16 to 18 months for their applications to be processed.
For Moreno, that means she might be unable to cast her ballot for president.


Hey, Senora Moreno, Welcome to (the REAL) America!
And learn a REAL American saying:
"TIMING IS EVERYTHING!"
30 posted on 01/02/2008 8:02:40 PM PST by VOA
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To: BlueNgold

“Sorry about your luck...”

Oh, you must have read the other thread. Thanks.


31 posted on 01/02/2008 8:05:03 PM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: doorgunner69
What is still startling is the total silence, even within the GOP, about the permanent majority the rats would achieve.............

That's because they really don't care. Many will simply change parties and continue on the same as they were before. Happened here in Texas. Our current gov Goodhair used to be a rat. Changed parties when he realized a rat couldn't get elected to statewide office here. Of course, last election, you'd find freepers screaming about a vote for anyone else being a vote for a rat. Like there was really any difference.

Next cycle, Hutchison will be running, and we'll get more of the same.

32 posted on 01/02/2008 8:07:54 PM PST by zeugma (Hillary! - America's Ex-Wife!)
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To: zeugma
Next cycle, Hutchison will be running, and we'll get more of the same.

I thought I read that she wouldn't be running again. Dunno if it's true, though.

33 posted on 01/02/2008 8:10:16 PM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Well, I just don’t get this. Here 30 years — on a green card? What is the purpose of citizenship if someone can come here on a green card and stay 30 years? Is there no time limit on a green card that requires them to go back home and apply for citizenship? Can they come here on a green card and apply for citizenship? Or are these people really illegals overstaying? I am so sick of these blood suckers.


34 posted on 01/02/2008 8:11:16 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: Snoopers-868th
There are work "green cards" and then there are other sorts, family, etc. You can marry a brit, and have her live with you here, forever, without her giving up brit citizenship. There are always stories of some 80-year old Italian woman who came here as a child, legally, and never got citizenship, finally being naturalized. You can adopt your new french wife's child and have her live with you without her giving up her former citizenship -- and she'd be a "LEGAL PERMANENT resident."

I'm not sure that I see why a legal permanent resident, which can come about for any number of reasons, is a "blood-sucker." They're fully documented, and subject to all of our tax and other laws, including, e.g. draft registration, where appropriate (male).

35 posted on 01/03/2008 6:13:53 AM PST by BohDaThone
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To: BohDaThone

So you are saying in answer to my “question” that a green card can give someone and even additional family legal premanent residency.


36 posted on 01/03/2008 6:20:07 AM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: Snoopers-868th
1. There is a status called "Legal permanent resident." It is often familiarly equated with "green card" although there are actually a lot of different "work permits" that are green card, as are there a lot of ways to be an LPR. I'm just saying that these are all "by the books," per the laws congress has passed.

2. I wasn't necessarily saying anything about an LPR's ability to bring in other family members. I just don't know that part of the law. My example of the "french adopted child" was that the FATHER (American Citizen) could probably bring in an adopted child legally. (Obviously, lots of American citizens are bringing in foreign adopted children legally -- check any flight coming back from China these days. Those kids are legal, but won't be citizens unless the adopted parents do something affirmative, or the kids do so when they become 18 or 21.

37 posted on 01/03/2008 6:48:01 AM PST by BohDaThone
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